The GAA Today

SineadLewis

Is anyone else here sick and tired of how "corporate" the GAA has become in the last five years?

I mean, they seem to be milking the loyal supporter for all he's worth. Vodafone adverts, no one on the pitch after the final, beating people over the head with "anti racism" propaganda. Croke park going "carbon neutral", what a farce. How about if no one turned up, would they be happy then?

I go to watch a match not to be bludgeoned with social indoctrination.

What is it coming too, will they implement rules so that one or two players on every team have to be foreign, otherwise you start a few points down?

Maybe in the interests of equality, each team should have a few burds.

In the north funding is to be cut to grounds/clubs with "republican" ties. What a farce. Again the money aspect will win out.

They will do anything to keep the EU grants going.

premierstone

SineadLewis wrote: »

Is anyone else here sick and tired of how "corporate" the GAA has become in the last five years?

I mean, they seem to be milking the loyal supporter for all he's worth. Vodafone adverts, no one on the pitch after the final, beating people over the head with "anti racism" propaganda. Croke park going "carbon neutral", what a farce. How about if no one turned up, would they be happy then?

I go to watch a match not to be bludgeoned with social indoctrination.

What is it coming too, will they implement rules so that one or two players on every team have to be foreign, otherwise you start a few points down?

Maybe in the interests of equality, each team should have a few burds.

In the north funding is to be cut to grounds/clubs with "republican" ties. What a farce. Again the money aspect will win out.

They will do anything to keep the EU grants going.

Seems to me the GAA cant win, everything you have described that has happened seems like progression, if it hadnt happened then the GAA would be accused of been out-dated and not moving with the times, its reality we live in a corporate world and the GAA has adapted suitably.

I notice you didnt mention the Lucozade kids otherwise known as the GPA, why have they escaped your wrath surely thats as much of a corporate statement as anything from Croke Park in the last 5 years.

Fact is people love to give out about the GAA but they all come back for more and in my own opinion it is an excellently run organisation off course there are flaws but look at the comparisons the FAI and the IRFU two professional organisations that make their amateur counterparts look like geniuses.

SineadLewis

premierstone wrote: »

I notice you didnt mention the Lucozade kids otherwise known as the GPA, why have they escaped your wrath surely thats as much of a corporate statement as anything from Croke Park in the last 5 years.

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Oh the GPA, don't even get me started on them money grabbing clowns. If they don't want to play the game as amateurs, then they should go and play soccer or some other sport.

Dessie Farrell comes out supporting the Lisbon treaty because "the EU has given us grants in the past". Whooo Dessie that is some insight.

All GPA members should be banned from the game.

D3PO

there milking it all right.

€13 a ticket for Dublin SFC Quarterfinals, €15 for the Semis. These kind of prices arent warranted but they know the loyal supporter base will pay.

Certainly the GAA and the county boards are becoming more detached from the supporters.

blackbelt

D3PO wrote: »

there milking it all right.

€13 a ticket for Dublin SFC Quarterfinals, €15 for the Semis. These kind of prices arent warranted but they know the loyal supporter base will pay.

Certainly the GAA and the county boards are becoming more detached from the supporters.

Gone are the days I'd hand money over at a turnstile thank God unless I am travelling to away matches but that kind of money is a bit steep if you only come for one game after the curtain raiser and 6.45 is still early for some people after work.I get into Parnell free as a referee along with my pass for league games which also guarantees me a ticket for championship matches.I have gotten my use out of it already and have broke even on it already after 4 months of the new season.

The GAA as a whole is a business at the top end of things.Everything else from grass roots up is mainly based on volunteering.The Dublin County Board in general is run very well by professional people and they have a great loyalty scheme in place for the fans which has to be commended.So as far as the Dublin County Board are concerned,they aren't really detached from the fans,quite the opposite.They are in tune with them and their policy of looking after the Dublin fans is exemplary.I would rather be of the opinion that the board is out of touch with the football team and who the clubs and public want as manager although I am led to believe that this is changing.

Orizio

SineadLewis wrote: »

Is anyone else here sick and tired of how "corporate" the GAA has become in the last five years?

I mean, they seem to be milking the loyal supporter for all he's worth. Vodafone adverts, no one on the pitch after the final, beating people over the head with "anti racism" propaganda. Croke park going "carbon neutral", what a farce. How about if no one turned up, would they be happy then?

I go to watch a match not to be bludgeoned with social indoctrination.

What is it coming too, will they implement rules so that one or two players on every team have to be foreign, otherwise you start a few points down?

Maybe in the interests of equality, each team should have a few burds.

In the north funding is to be cut to grounds/clubs with "republican" ties. What a farce. Again the money aspect will win out.

They will do anything to keep the EU grants going.

Fantastic, should have happened decades ago. Tell the bigots/shinners to bugger off. Also, whats wrong with the GAA taking an anti-Racist stance?

Really, the GAA is an exceptionally well run organisation, vastly superior to the mess that is the FAI, or the bulk of sporting organisations in Ireland. I would much prefer them to be penny pinchers then incompetent.

Orizio

D3PO wrote: »

there milking it all right.

€13 a ticket for Dublin SFC Quarterfinals, €15 for the Semis. These kind of prices arent warranted but they know the loyal supporter base will pay.

Certainly the GAA and the county boards are becoming more detached from the supporters.

Don't think these are particurly bad prices (assuming prices for kids are a lot less of course).

Blackjack

Orizio wrote: »

Fantastic, should have happened decades ago. Tell the bigots/shinners to bugger off. Also, whats wrong with the GAA taking an anti-Racist stance?

Really, the GAA is an exceptionally well run organisation, vastly superior to the mess that is the FAI, or the bulk of sporting organisations in Ireland. I would much prefer them to be penny pinchers then incompetent.

Could not have put it better myself.

As regards going Carbon Neutral, it's a fantastic initiative - we should all be concerned about the Environment - the fact that Croke park are promoting this initiative and trying to do something should be appluaded.

Gingy

D3PO wrote: »

there milking it all right.

€13 a ticket for Dublin SFC Quarterfinals, €15 for the Semis. These kind of prices arent warranted but they know the loyal supporter base will pay.

Certainly the GAA and the county boards are becoming more detached from the supporters.

These prices most certainly are not warranted. My mates went out to the quarter finals 2 weeks ago and realised it was €13 in when they got out there, they were a bit late and decided it wasn't worth it, so they went home!

LeoB

Orizio wrote: »

Fantastic, should have happened decades ago. Tell the bigots/shinners to bugger off. Also, whats wrong with the GAA taking an anti-Racist stance?

Really, the GAA is an exceptionally well run organisation, vastly superior to the mess that is the FAI, or the bulk of sporting organisations in Ireland. I would much prefer them to be penny pinchers then incompetent.

Have to disagree with you here. Its not the fault of good honest G.A.A in the 6 counties that some scumbags have caught on to their coat strings and when they do its hard to get rid of them. There is nothing wrong with being a member of Sinn Fein either.
The G.A.A taking an Anti-racist stanse has more to do with political correctness than anything else. I dont see why we should take a particular stanse as I dont see a racist problem in the G.A.A and there are a good few non nationals playing in Dublin. I actually think we in the G.A.A are above this s**t despite some members maybe having grudges. But thats not for here.

Agree fully we are a very well run organisation but I do think the OP is making some fair enough points. It also seems we are trying to follow other sports when in fact they should be following us.

tommy249

I must say that I disagree with everything in your post OP. How is Vodafone having an ad on TV milking people for all they have?? Vodafone are an official sponsor of the football championship and pay millions to do so. That millions goes into our clubs and stadiums and Vodafone are quiet entitled to make a GAA ad. At the end of the day, that Vodafone ad is promoting GAA on TV all summer long (on a sidenote I think its an excellent ad)

No on the pitch after the final, to be fair while this is a controversial move, at the end of the day, if you agree with it or not its a health and safety issue and you can be sure that the Croke Park insurance is a lot higher due to these pitch invasions.

"beating people over the head with anti racism properganda" - THATS A GOOD THING............I won't even expand my comment on this because if someone actually thinks anti racism is a negative thing it says an awful lot.

Carbon Neutral Croke Park......... Thats a bloody good think, plus how does this "milk the loyal supporter"???? And having a Carbon Neutral stadium in no way affects the supporters attending the stadium so I don't understand your comment "How about if no one turned up, would they be happy then?"

Also, your comments on funding in the North............ that was a statemet by the Northern Irish government, not the GAA.

Finally, on your comment about EU grants, do the GAA even get EU grants??? (I could be wrong, I know they get government grants but I have never heard of them getting EU grants.

PS - €13 to see a county Championship semi final is not bad to be fair. At the end of the day this cash goes back to the clubs and if you went to a soccer or rugby AIL game at any stage it would cost more that €13.

SineadLewis

A few things to address.

Carbon neutral: I don't buy the global warming propaganda.

Anti Racism: There is no rascism in the GAA, therefore leave this social engineering out of it.

The North: Clubs with "republican ties"? What next.

Pith invasion: So in the space of one propaganda campaign the loyal GAA fans have gone from a people who never cause trouble to a BUNCH OF LOUTS, PEOPLE FROM THE DARK AGES, STEWARD ATTACKING IDIOTS.

Don't believe the hype. I am constantly amazed at how easily the Isish man is taken in by a bit of popraganda.

Orizio

SineadLewis wrote: »

A few things to address.

Carbon neutral: I don't buy the global warming propaganda.

Anti Racism: There is no rascism in the GAA, therefore leave this social engineering out of it.

The North: Clubs with "republican ties"? What next.

Pith invasion: So in the space of one propaganda campaign the loyal GAA fans have gone from a people who never cause trouble to a BUNCH OF LOUTS, PEOPLE FROM THE DARK AGES, STEWARD ATTACKING IDIOTS.

Don't believe the hype. I am constantly amazed at how easily the Isish man is taken in by a bit of popraganda.

The vast majority of GAA clubs don't give a **** about Republicanism, and I hope it stays that way. Sports and politics don't mix, particurly when it concerns the bloody shinners and their bankrupt nationalism. Also, there have been some instances of racism in the GAA (very very few, but nonetheless) and I don't see whats wrong with making it clear to non-nationals that the GAA takes a serious stance against racism.

Orizio

LeoB wrote: »

Have to disagree with you here. Its not the fault of good honest G.A.A in the 6 counties that some scumbags have caught on to their coat strings and when they do its hard to get rid of them. There is nothing wrong with being a member of Sinn Fein either.
The G.A.A taking an Anti-racist stanse has more to do with political correctness than anything else. I dont see why we should take a particular stanse as I dont see a racist problem in the G.A.A and there are a good few non nationals playing in Dublin. I actually think we in the G.A.A are above this s**t despite some members maybe having grudges. But thats not for here.

Agree fully we are a very well run organisation but I do think the OP is making some fair enough points. It also seems we are trying to follow other sports when in fact they should be following us.

But the scumbags are invariably shinners, of the celtic jersey wearing dutch gold drinking type. The type of people the GAA really doesn't want.

Anyway, there are millions of problems with being a member of Sinn Fein. If you want them, do ask.

LeoB

Orizio wrote: »

But the scumbags are invariably shinners, of the celtic jersey wearing dutch gold drinking type. The type of people the GAA really doesn't want.

Anyway, there are millions of problems with being a member of Sinn Fein. If you want them, do ask.

We aint going to agree here. But the scumbags are not invariably Sinn Fein or Shinners. There are a few right scumbags playing North and South who are looked upon as quite respectable.

The G.A.A has a tiny minority in most counties who are a nuicance and who every county board could do without.
I think the point the O.P. was making is more about having a campaign like the F.A.I and other sports bodies who have a problem with racism.
We in the G.A.A are above that crap and I would not like to see money wasted on it.

I have heard all the reasons and propoganda about it and I know some very decent members of S/F who are there because they would not be elected or accepted by the establishment and elite of the "big"parties.

Good year for Cork in the end despite the loss in the football final.

tommy249

SineadLewis wrote: »

A few things to address.

Carbon neutral: I don't buy the global warming propaganda.

Anti Racism: There is no rascism in the GAA, therefore leave this social engineering out of it.

The North: Clubs with "republican ties"? What next.

Pith invasion: So in the space of one propaganda campaign the loyal GAA fans have gone from a people who never cause trouble to a BUNCH OF LOUTS, PEOPLE FROM THE DARK AGES, STEWARD ATTACKING IDIOTS.

Don't believe the hype. I am constantly amazed at how easily the Isish man is taken in by a bit of popraganda.

"I don't buy the global warming propaganda" - I'm no scientist but as far as I know global warming is reality not properganda and the fact that someone actually comes on to the internet to give out about the GAA tyring to cut their carbon footprint is just laughable. Tell me, HOW does cul green in Croke Park have ANY effect on the players and supportes attending the games???? It doesn't. All it means is that Croke Park is being powered from renewable energy such as wind energy and they have more recycling stations in the stadium. I'm just baffled as to how and why people would actually get annoyed at this.

"Anti Racism: There is no rascism in the GAA, therefore leave this social engineering out of it." - Thankfully this is not a common occurance in GAA but it does happen and fair play to the GAA for trying to stop it before it gets to be a common occurance. OP read this and tell me if your okay with what happened this hurler, just because of his religion: http://www.u.tv/articles/ArticlePrint.aspx?cat=sport&guid=53059659-3d46-4a23-8b58-a423ad86742f As I said in an earlier post, the fact that you are actually against an anti racism drive says a lot.

Again, your pitch invasion argument makes no sense at all. The pitch invasion thing is a HEALTH & SAFETY issue. It has nothing to do with with the GAA fans being branded a bunch of louts......

Finally, your comment on the Northern Clubs - as I tried to explain to you in an earlier post, that comment about clubs being named after IRA members was made by the NORTHERN IRISH GOVERNMENT, not the GAA so it has nothing at all to do with your argument (not that I understand the point you are trying to make)

Your arguments make no sense at all and if this is what you spend your time getting annoyed about then you must have very little to be worrying about.