how much take home pay do you get working in office?

iguana2005

am an office manager...pay wages(online banking), website management & content, marketing, banking, PR, PA duties, work late nights etc.....
My take home pay has been reduced from €500 per week in hand to €430 per week in hand due to PRSI and was asked to take a pay cut...

Is this low? I work very hard and am only person in office...hold a dip in PR. being honest am struggline as live alone(am 42)...what do you think?? am sick of this country...really am

fasterkitten

Why do you say you're sick of this country? It's well accepted that you'd be earning much less (we all would) for the same job almost anywhere else.

I'm sick of people complaining about paying tax and PRSI as if they're being robbed! How long have you been working on the black market for?

iguana2005

fasterkitten wrote: »

Why do you say you're sick of this country? It's well accepted that you'd be earning much less (we all would) for the same job almost anywhere else.

I'm sick of people complaining about paying tax and PRSI as if they're being robbed! How long have you been working on the black market for?

Have paid tax and PRSI my entire life...never got anything back from this government...when i was made redundant last year my redundancy package was 'unavailable' as company had gone bust...got nothing from social and had to wait 3 months for a dole payment but was working by that stage. My elderly mother is ill and was taken to hospital a few weeks back. She lay in a corridor for 2 days...horrendous...she paid PRSI & TAX all her life(worked till 66) and did the governement help her when she needed help? NO...she is on a state pension which is a joke...

lauralee28

iguana2005 wrote: »

Have paid tax and PRSI my entire life...never got anything back from this government...when i was made redundant last year my redundancy package was 'unavailable' as company had gone bust...got nothing from social and had to wait 3 months for a dole payment but was working by that stage. My elderly mother is ill and was taken to hospital a few weeks back. She lay in a corridor for 2 days...horrendous...she paid PRSI & TAX all her life(worked till 66) and did the governement help her when she needed help? NO...she is on a state pension which is a joke...

There are qualified teachers earning just about €500 per week so you have nothing to complain about.

Gaz

Look for a better paid job ?

snowy2008

lauralee28 wrote: »

There are qualified teachers earning just about €500 per week so you have nothing to complain about.

is that true?!!!! thats shocking

Oafley Jones

iguana2005 wrote: »

am an office manager...pay wages(online banking), website management & content, marketing, banking, PR, PA duties, work late nights etc.....
My take home pay has been reduced from €500 per week in hand to €430 per week in hand due to PRSI and was asked to take a pay cut...

Is this low? I work very hard and am only person in office...hold a dip in PR. being honest am struggline as live alone(am 42)...what do you think?? am sick of this country...really am

To put it in context, I earned about the same stacking the shelves in Dunnes. Bare in mind that was after four years service, as well as a few hours on Sunday. Had a great laugh too. Looking for work relevant to my field as well and it's very disheartening as there's almost nothing out there. It's a buyers market at the moment for employers.

iguana2005

lauralee28 wrote: »

There are qualified teachers earning just about €500 per week so you have nothing to complain about.

Is it me or are people job snobbing?? Just because i work in an office..a teacher is better then me? Work is work...i volunteer with the elderly so dont go shaking your stick at me just cause im an office worker

Oafley Jones

iguana2005 wrote: »

Is it me or are people job snobbing?? Just because i work in an office..a teacher is better then me? Work is work...i volunteer with the elderly so dont go shaking your stick at me just cause im an office worker

I'd say you're over-reacting there. I think lauralee's point is that any work that is unskilled or doesn't require any qualifications should have a take home pay less than a position that requires a specific degree/hdip qualification etc.

miec

Hi Op

I worked out that you get roughly between 22,000 and 24,000 a year which depending on your experience etc is pretty low. It is easier to move from one job to another, I would suggest you tart up your CV and check out other better paid jobs (although there is not that many of them but they are out there) Irishjobs.ie is your best bet. Personally I think your wages are pretty low for running an office so I agree with you there.

lauralee28

iguana2005 wrote: »

Is it me or are people job snobbing?? Just because i work in an office..a teacher is better then me? Work is work...i volunteer with the elderly so dont go shaking your stick at me just cause im an office worker

Call it job snobbing if you wish, I am simply making the point(as a previous poster has also pointed out), that there are people in highly skilled jobs with qualifications/degrees earning not too much more than people in low skilled jobs that don't require any qualification. This should not really be the case. If you want to work in a highly paid job, get the relevent training/qualifications.

PS: I also do volunteer work but don't see what relevence this has to your thread.

namenotavailablE

Do you receive a payslip from your employer?

A drop from net €500 per week to net €430 per week seems a lot- much more than what would be caused by PRSI changes introduced by the last mini-budget (which took effect from 1 May, so you'd have expected that your salary since then would have 'normalised').

I am wondering if there is a miscalculation by your payroll office/ Could they be trying to fix an error that arose when they forgot to change your take-home pay after the mini-budget changes?

Oafley Jones

lauralee28 wrote: »

If you want to work in a highly paid job, get the relevent training/qualifications.

Be aware that this is applicable to you as well Lauralee. You choose teaching (I assume) and therefore you knew the standard of pay that you were going to receive; as difficult as the job is and whether the pay is fair or not doesn't enter into it, nobody put a gun to your head. Like the OP, if your priority was money, you'd be better served taking your own advice and going for a career that paid more.

Mr. Presentable

miec wrote: »

Hi Op

I worked out that you get roughly between 22,000 and 24,000 a year which depending on your experience etc is pretty low. It is easier to move from one job to another, I would suggest you tart up your CV and check out other better paid jobs (although there is not that many of them but they are out there) Irishjobs.ie is your best bet. Personally I think your wages are pretty low for running an office so I agree with you there.

miec, the OP is on closer to 35-37,000. Still low?

MagicMarker

iguana2005 wrote: »

am an office manager...pay wages(online banking), website management & content, marketing, banking, PR, PA duties, work late nights etc.....
My take home pay has been reduced from €500 per week in hand to €430 per week in hand due to PRSI and was asked to take a pay cut...

Is this low? I work very hard and am only person in office...hold a dip in PR. being honest am struggline as live alone(am 42)...what do you think?? am sick of this country...really am

It sounds like a very small company, your job is an ''unskilled'' job (imo unskilled no specialist training is needed).

Someone else mentioned you're coming out with about 22k, for what you're doing I'd expect at least 25k.

MagicMarker

nipplenuts wrote: »

miec, the OP is on closer to 35-37,000. Still low?

430 per week after tax is not even close to 35k a year.

lauralee28

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Be aware that this is applicable to you as well Lauralee. You choose teaching (I assume) and therefore you knew the standard of pay that you were going to receive; as difficult as the job is and whether the pay is fair or not doesn't enter into it, nobody put a gun to your head. Like the OP, if your priority was money, you'd be better served taking your own advice and going for a career that paid more.

You've assumed a bit much here I think Oafley Jones and read a bit much into things.
1. I am not a teacher starting out on the bottom of the payscale,have been teaching for a number of years, was simply making a point that newly qualified teachers are earning the same as some low skilled workers.
2. The rate of pay NOT ONCE came into the equasion for me when I decided on a career, therefore, as you've assumed, money was never my priority.
3. I LOVE my job, thank you very much therefore dont need any advice re a career change

Oafley Jones

MagicMarker wrote: »

430 per week after tax is not even close to 35k a year.

It's about 26k a year he's earning.

Good stuff Lauralee. Glad your happy. By the way, I come from a long line of teachers, one even helped found the INTO and my GF is teaching for 2 years with special needs kids so I know the score as it were.

artful_codger

lauralee28 wrote: »

There are qualified teachers earning just about €500 per week so you have nothing to complain about.

500 per week to sit around during the months of June, July, August, and also mid term breaks... that's sweet ! :eek:

lauralee28

artful_codger wrote: »

500 per week to sit around during the months of June, July, August, and also mid term breaks... that's sweet ! :eek:

Yes, very mature comment to add to this thread:rolleyes:

w123

artful_codger wrote: »

500 per week to sit around during the months of June, July, August, and also mid term breaks... that's sweet ! :eek:

You forgot to add finish at 2 or 3

lauralee28 wrote: »

Yes, very mature comment to add to this thread:rolleyes:

Yes but its true.

The teacher who is on 500 per week is 22 and just qualified - they will get an increase every year and they work only nine months of the year - 165 teaching days for secondary school teachers according to a recent OECD report.

This kind of person in most other jobs is initially a liability due to their inexperience, the OP is 42 has experience and a skillset that is truely rounded. She should upskill - I would recommend Marketing of Accounting.

mkdon05

iguana2005 wrote: »

am an office manager...pay wages(online banking), website management & content, marketing, banking, PR, PA duties, work late nights etc.....
My take home pay has been reduced from €500 per week in hand to €430 per week in hand due to PRSI and was asked to take a pay cut...

Is this low? I work very hard and am only person in office...hold a dip in PR. being honest am struggline as live alone(am 42)...what do you think?? am sick of this country...really am

The OP is doing a skilled job, they hold a Diploma in PR.
They were able to go to college and regurgitate all the info read from books into exams just as well as the teachers could.

(How this constitutes being skilled I dont really understand. To me the likes of neurosurgeons and Pilots etc.. are skilled. Just my 2c tho)

miec

miec, the OP is on closer to 35-37,000. Still low?

How have you worked that one out?

I am simply making the point(as a previous poster has also pointed out), that there are people in highly skilled jobs with qualifications/degrees earning not too much more than people in low skilled jobs that don't require any qualification. This should not really be the case. If you want to work in a highly paid job, get the relevent training/qualifications.

Running an office is not a low skilled job, in particular where a person is doing accounts, budgeting and so forth, if you get those details wrong, or represent the company in a bad light, or all manner of things, the office manager could seriously impact on that business. Successful businesses always have successful back up. Everyone deals with administration every day of the week and we all know the headaches when things go wrong, which can be either annoying or in some cases bloody dangerous (eg: in hospitals, if results get mixed up etc, all of these tasks are carried out by office workers). Every job, whether that is a cleaner or a CEO requires a skill set, some jobs require more responsibility and training and the wages should reflect that. The OP in my opinion is being underpaid for what she is doing and she should switch jobs.

AARRRGH

Office manager is pretty much bottom of the ladder in the corporate world. I can only think of "cleaner" which is lower.

Bottom of the ladder jobs deserve bottom of the ladder pay. €26k per year is not bottom of the ladder pay. You are doing well.

The fact of reality is if you want to earn good money you need to have valuable skills. Pretty much anyone can be trained to be an office manager, but not anyone can be trained to be, say, a software engineer or accountant. That's why software engineers and accountants earn a lot more than office managers.

The only solution to your problem is to get better skills which will get you a better job. You don't deserve to be paid more just because you want more money... the world owes you nothing.

Sorry if I sound harsh.

mkdon05

Surely office junior would be lower no??

AARRRGH

mkdon05 wrote: »

Surely office junior would be lower no??

OK, maybe office junior and intern, but they probably get minimum wage, or no wage at all.

pow wow

AARRRGH wrote: »

OK, maybe office junior and intern, but they probably get minimum wage, or no wage at all.

Ah no, you'd have office adminstrators, clerical officers etc. below office manager on the office food-chain.

I don't think the salary sounds too shabby, but it depends what you're used to. Is there any element of the OP's duties being upscaled to suit his/her skills while the salary remains the same? To illustrate, I work part-time at the lowest clerical level in my employer's organisation in a role that is deemed suitable for a school-leaver. No special qualifications or skills beyond that. Yet because my employer knows (from previous employment) that I'm capable of duties above those allocated to staff at my level, they have me doing all sorts way beyond my grade, while still paying me the lowest clerical rate. If I were doing this full-time I'd be majorly annoyed about it, but as it's part-time and the hours suit me I don't mind too much.

The OP is pretty stuck though beyond looking for new jobs and sitting tight for the time being.

AARRRGH

Office managers and receptionists tend to have a lot of the same job tasks...

meditraitor

lauralee28 wrote: »

There are qualified teachers earning just about €500 per week so you have nothing to complain about.

That may be true but its not common

According to the data, the average male teacher earns €64,000 per annum, while the average female earns €56,000.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0416/teachers.html

craichoe

meditraitor wrote: »

That may be true but its not common


http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0416/teachers.html

You can have 9 people earning 20k a year and 1 person earning 200k a year, on average they all earn 38K a year, averages are a load of crap even in the private sector the average is massively skewed by the top percentile.

Unfortunately in the recent years Ireland had a massive amount of people becoming middle class and the rich becoming super rich.

meditraitor

craichoe wrote: »

You can have 9 people earning 20k a year and 1 person earning 200k a year, on average they all earn 38K a year, averages are a load of crap even in the private sector the average is massively skewed by the top percentile.

Unfortunately in the recent years Ireland had a massive amount of people becoming middle class and the rich becoming super rich.

We are still talking about teachers? Please show me a teacher earning 200k. my point stands.

craichoe

meditraitor wrote: »

We are still talking about teachers? Please show me a teacher earning 200k. my point stands.

My point is not about Teachers, its about averages, they are sensationalist numbers thrown out there by the likes of RTE and rags such as the Sun for the benefit of shock factor.

However on that point:

Every time I go back to Visit Ireland I keep hearing these stupid arguments about the Public sector getting paid X, Y and Z on 'average'.

Regardless of whether you think someone is getting paid too much, it was agreed that they would get that increase.

If i went into the Public Sector I would do it for the Job security, knowing that the ability to move upward would be limited.

On the other hand I could go into the Private sector and earn in excess of 150k a year doing sales, investments, high risk stuff.

The point is that when the times were good, nobody had a problem with it and now times are tough everyone is begrudging everyone else looking for someone to get p*ssed off with.

As a country solidarity in Ireland is extinct, at least when everyone was poor they were able to agree on something and that was to leave.

meditraitor

craichoe wrote: »

My point is not about Teachers, its about averages, they are sensationalist numbers thrown out there by the likes of RTE and rags such as the Sun for the benefit of shock factor.


.

But I was pointing out the serious flaw in stating that teachers are on €400 a week when in fact they are earning on avaerage €20,000 more than the average wage. This is disgusting and trying to defend this type of thing is what is wrong with this country.

They are only teachers

artful_codger

craichoe wrote: »

it was agreed that they would get that increase.

or they'd go on strike and cripple the country.

craichoe wrote: »

The point is that when the times were good, nobody had a problem with it

dead wrong

craichoe wrote: »

As a country solidarity in Ireland is extinct

exactly, "i want a 10% pay raise every year, or i'm going on strike, and don't you dare lookin for efficiency improvements off me."

Sin1981

Hi OP,
just curious, what's your education, and number of years exp like?
I have a Phd and 1.5 years exp, and I net €515 each week. not happy with that amount, but at end of the day it's a start and everyone has to start somewhere. I hope to make some jumps from that over the next few years.

I think you should look around for new jobs and maybe there's something better out there....

craichoe

meditraitor wrote: »

But I was pointing out the serious flaw in stating that teachers are on €400 a week when in fact they are earning on avaerage €20,000 more than the average wage. This is disgusting and trying to defend this type of thing is what is wrong with this country.

They are only teachers

I'm Irish, I don't work in Ireland and have not for a while, so i think i have a unique perspective.

They may earn over over the average Private sector wage, they took up job knowing exactly what they were going into and excuse me, but the Teachers don't have a easy job either, putting up with the brats that come into the schools from parents that are more interested in getting a good deal on a new BMW 5 Series that whats going on with their kids.

At the same time in the Private sector you have the option to drastically increase your wage over a short period of time and during the 'Celtic Tiger' era that was possible and nobody gave two hoots, people in the Public Sector have no such option.

If you wanted to you could escalate yourself to over three times the public sector wage, if money was that important to you.

If the Irish people had a problem with the Public sector wages its should have come up YEARS ago, in my view the problem is with the system and its not with the people so I don't think its fair to blame them. If you could get it you'd take it as well.

MysticalRain

craichoe wrote: »

I'm Irish, I don't work in Ireland and have not for a while, so i think i have a unique perspective.

They may earn over over the average Private sector wage, they took up job knowing exactly what they were going into and excuse me, but the Teachers don't have a easy job either, putting up with the brats that come into the schools from parents that are more interested in getting a good deal on a new BMW 5 Series that whats going on with their kids.

At the same time in the Private sector you have the option to drastically increase your wage over a short period of time and during the 'Celtic Tiger' era that was possible and nobody gave two hoots, people in the Public Sector have no such option.

If you wanted to you could escalate yourself to over three times the public sector wage, if money was that important to you.

If the Irish people had a problem with the Public sector wages its should have come up YEARS ago, in my view the problem is with the system and its not with the people so I don't think its fair to blame them. If you could get it you'd take it as well.

Contrary to popular myths, many of us working in the private sector actually didn't have such a rosy time during the Celtic tiger era. Layoffs and wage cuts were the order of the day in certain sectors like IT for instance.

Anyone with a unique perspective coming from working outside Ireland can tell you that teachers here are paid way more than their foreign counterparts. As another poster said, the only teachers who are on 500 a week are newly qualified grads with zero experience. In the private sector, they would be starting on 2/3's are even half that amount. Assuming they could even get a job in the first place.

I would happily ditch the private-sector for a job with a guaranteed good wage, steady pension, and zero accountability. If I was a teacher right now, I certainly wouldn't be whinging about my "low wages" at a time when most people in the private sector are having their wages cut or were being laid off.

irishvamp90

OP your were earning 500 now 430 living alone and your finding it hard??i could live on that very easy

irishvamp90

Sin1981 wrote: »

Hi OP,
just curious, what's your education, and number of years exp like?
I have a Phd and 1.5 years exp, and I net €515 each week. not happy with that amount, but at end of the day it's a start and everyone has to start somewhere. I hope to make some jumps from that over the next few years.

I think you should look around for new jobs and maybe there's something better out there....

515 per week and you aint happy with that?:eek:...jesus i must be missing all these jobs when im looking