setting up serious paranormal investigation team

paranormal

i am in the process of setting up a paranormal investigation team .currently we have 4 members and are looking for more so if your serious let me know (by the way its not as exciting as the tv ).

bigeasyeah

Where are you based?

paranormal

naas county kildare

bigeasyeah

Too far for me Im afraid.
Best of luck in your search.

6th

If its not too far away the Dublin Paranormal Convention is a great place to meet potential new team members. We had a load of people ask about joining teams last year.

paranormal

thanks will do my best to get there and check it out

TechFreak

Sound interesting.

But what do you mean by serious?Do you mean that you will be investigating using scientific principles or are you going to be doing it Derek Acorah style?

paranormal

we are gonna try and do both use a medium and if any contact made take readings using emf meter and temp readings ,and record all sound on digital recorders and use hi def video cameras to record everything.that way we cover all bases. as i say we are only starting out on this so we are not pros (yet).still looking for a medium so if any are interested let me know

paranormal

we are also in the process of setting up a website and any footage or photos worth a look will be posted there.we recently investigated wicklow goal with the medium angie freeland now that was a busy nite

TechFreak

Hmm..

Is there any group that doesnt use a medium. Surely by using a medium your automatically removing yourself from being impartial in investigating any paranormal phenomena.

6th

Yeah there are a couple but most groups use one now and then. Sometimes a place will specifically ask that a medium is brought along.

paranormal

we thought to use a medium they might steer us in the right direction to start of an investigation. we will not use a medium as the only form of investigation .but we have been trying to get a medium to join for awhile now none seem interested so doesnt look like we wil have one anyway.and if anything was found completely unexplainable then use the medium again

TechFreak

The problem I have with bringing a medium is this.

If you are in a room with a medium and an orb of light appears they may say , thats the spirit ive been sensing of Billy the 16th Century Shoe Shiner who was killed after he fell in love with a noble woman ( as they all do). She then ( as per usual) died the generic 3 days afterwards of a broken heart ( its like the bubonic plague of ghost stories).

If you are in a room without a medium and an orb of light appeared , the first thing Id think is...Wow thats Ball Lightining.

The mere presence of a medium pre disposes you to the existense of an entity.

paranormal

i agree with with some of what your saying but if an"orb"appears why not investigate both sides the mediums side and then scientificly with emf/temp and have video to study afterwards at least then you can study all sides

iamhunted

we've toyed with the idea of mediums in the past but its never panned out. things can get too complicated.

paranormal

any advice for a new group of investigators setting out considering we have had some experience (and contact)in the past and we know that we will be cold and bored most of the time

Riamfada

TechFreak wrote: »

If you are in a room with a medium and an orb of light appears they may say , thats the spirit ive been sensing of Billy the 16th Century Shoe Shiner who was killed after he fell in love with a noble woman ( as they all do). She then ( as per usual) died the generic 3 days afterwards of a broken heart ( its like the bubonic plague of ghost stories).

Thats why you have an archaeologists or a historian along to call that bull**** out. If anyone believes that crap (and alot do) they have no business investigating anything

Riamfada

iamhunted wrote: »

we've toyed with the idea of mediums in the past but its never panned out. things can get too complicated.

lol.

paranormal

did we hit a nerve there grimes

Riamfada

paranormal wrote: »

did we hit a nerve there grimes

oh god no, just a little joke i hope iamhunted gets

iamhunted

that was one of the few investigations I wasnt present at. I wish it had been video'd.

Well, the 'psychic exodus' part.

6th

paranormal wrote: »

did we hit a nerve there grimes

What you'll have to realise is that there is quite a busy paranormal community in Ireland and its not faceless. A lot of us have met, had drinks, argued, worked together, argued some more, another drink, some bitching for good measure and kissed and made up

You're part of that community now. For better or worse! Just know there are groups and individuals around who you can throw questions at work with.

paranormal

well im sure we will meet at the paracon this year

paranormal

6th wrote: »

What you'll have to realise is that there is quite a busy paranormal community in Ireland and its not faceless. A lot of us have met, had drinks, argued, worked together, argued some more, another drink, some bitching for good measure and kissed and made up

You're part of that community now. For better or worse! Just know there are groups and individuals around who you can throw questions at work with.

well i like the sound of another drink and a good debate but all this kissing is worrying

AI

Do any Ireland based "paranormal investigators" publish results of there investigations?

I mean stuff beyond 'there was a bad feeling' kinda thing.


I'd like to see is evp recordings, photographic, video or any other genuine evidence of investigations

iamhunted

tbh theres not always a lot to report other than 'it was the heating', 'it was the plumbing', 'it was an ID10T error'.

Most groups will have something like an EVP section on their site - but getting things that 'may' be EVPs are difficult enough.

iamhunted

paranormal wrote: »

well i like the sound of another drink and a good debate but all this kissing is worrying

The arguments are the best bits

Riamfada

AI wrote: »

Do any Ireland based "paranormal investigators" publish results of there investigations?

I mean stuff beyond 'there was a bad feeling' kinda thing.


I'd like to see is evp recordings, photographic, video or any other genuine evidence of investigations

Some do but there has been instances of groups publishing their EVP recordings but finding out that they were not as geniune as they had hoped. As a result alot of groups would be wary about putting "evidence" up on a forum or website. If you testify that something is evidence then you are saying 100% that it is paranormal. If it surfaces that it is not, all credibility from the group is gone.

G

leddpipe

iamhunted wrote: »

The arguments are the best bits

You do seem to enjoy them

Oryx

Grimes wrote: »

Some do but there has been instances of groups publishing their EVP recordings but finding out that they were not as geniune as they had hoped. As a result alot of groups would be wary about putting "evidence" up on a forum or website. If you testify that something is evidence then you are saying 100% that it is paranormal. If it surfaces that it is not, all credibility from the group is gone.

G

Can you not make it available in a such a way that you are not putting it up as evidence of anything? Just 'this is what we found, opinion please?'

And even though I do hold with all the medium type stuff, I think bringing such people on an investigation is for entertainment value only, to make the night more interesting for spectators. Any investigator worth their salt will surely bear in mind that a medium is a regular person, not a precise piece of machinery, and can have many fubar moments, i.e. is not always right, so what they say can be slotted into the mixed bag of collected material, but not held as empirical evidence of anything.

TechFreak

AI wrote: »

Do any Ireland based "paranormal investigators" publish results of there investigations?

I mean stuff beyond 'there was a bad feeling' kinda thing.


I'd like to see is evp recordings, photographic, video or any other genuine evidence of investigations

I think the idea of a report is an excellent suggestion. If you are worried about the best way to present it Grimes prehaps a workshop could take place at the convention were various Paranormal Groups could come to some sort of memorandum of understanding on how to report of such investigations.

I understand that every investigator has different techinques , but surely you can agree on a format of the report.

iamhunted

we used to do reports but then stopped. like whats the point when you have to fill out 'found nothing paranormal' every other line. These days we only present a report when we find something worth reporting.

iamhunted

leddpipe wrote: »

You do seem to enjoy them

oh aye, and you dont? ;-)

6th

We (the PIGs) have a set report format we use for when we are asked to check a location. If someone asks us to investigate their home then presenting them with a report at the end should be expected. Theres some great software/templates out there and they are handy to lok abck on because the report doesnt change, unlike when you recall in your head how a night went.

iamhunted

i think PRAofI even created their very own reporting software.

AI

For what its worth I think definitive, published reports would lend a lot more credibility to a 'serious investigation team'

Darragh29

I'd be interested in joining such a group, I believe as a skeptic I could bring a unique view to a paranormal group. I've a strong engineering background and would be well used to using an evidence based scientific approach to problem investigating and solving.

Personally I don't believe in ghosts and poltergeists and stuff, but I'd be what I supposed you could call an open minded skeptic, in that I'd love nothing more than being able to see/witness something that I couldn't explain...

paranormal

sounds good darragh29 few of us gonna meet at this paracon thing so i will pm the details when i know more

paranormal

from what iv read here and elsewhere im gonna abandon the idea of bringing a medium to investigations for the moment .on the subject of publishing reports we are gonna publish any photos or video(that we think are worth showing) and a brief decription of how the nite went on our website(yet to be done) our it guy is working on it at the moment.and people can make what they like of them

paranormal

whats the best equipment to use and what is just fancy gadgets with nice lights. we currently have gaussmeters, ir thermometer ,a few wireless cameras, a few laptops for the cameras a few hidef camcorders and a few digital audio recorders .just wondering what else we should have and what we dont need

Ziycon

There is no equipment made for investigating, everything used by investigators is used as they have yielded some results whether these are paranormal or not it up to debate.
With that said, I find the best things to be your eyes and ears and also a camcorder or digital camera.

paranormal

Ziycon wrote: »

There is no equipment made for investigating, everything used by investigators is used as they have yielded some results whether these are paranormal or not it up to debate.
With that said, I find the best things to be your eyes and ears and also a camcorder or digital camera.

thanks for the reply makes sense i suppose .although i would have preferred if you recommended buying something cool like night vision goggles at least then i could have justified spending money on something cool.justified to wife i mean

iamhunted

AI wrote: »

For what its worth I think definitive, published reports would lend a lot more credibility to a 'serious investigation team'

we file all our data from each investigation etc , but sometimes theres just no point in making a report if there isnt anything of value to actually report. Initially we did - we even had case histories up on our site - but our rule of thumb now is to store all the recorded data etc (just in case the same investigation crops up again) but if we find natural reasons we normally verbally report this to the person concerned rather than type it up. It's pretty rare to find anything thats could even be remotely classed as paranormal though and thats just being honest.

TechFreak

Hey Paranormal,

You definatly peaked my interest.Would you drop me a pm when you get a chance. Like you im currently trying to persude the wife to let me get those nightvision goggles.

Heard Aldi have them on sale next week ! Cant see it on their site though but was told by a lad in the job.I wait and hope.

ghosthunter73

iamhunted wrote: »

i think PRAofI even created their very own reporting software.

We do have a Paranormal Case Managment System which is free to an non-profit group. Great way to keep track of your cases progress.

leddpipe

iamhunted wrote: »

oh aye, and you dont? ;-)

AI

So has anybody actually investigated anything that is worth reporting? :rolleyes:

Jessica xxx

paranormal wrote: »

sounds good darragh29 few of us gonna meet at this paracon thing so i will pm the details when i know more

Id be interested in joining in to

AI

AI wrote: »

So has anybody actually investigated anything that is worth reporting? :rolleyes:

So nobody's investigated anything worth reporting?
Makes ya wonder!

leddpipe

AI wrote: »

So nobody's investigated anything worth reporting?
Makes ya wonder!

It certainely would

iamhunted

AI wrote: »

So nobody's investigated anything worth reporting?
Makes ya wonder!

Different people have different views on what 'worth reporting' means. Has anyone any solid proof of the paranormal? I cant say - but if they did would anyone believe them? I dont think so.

Therefore you'll find a lot of groups may have their own finds that they keep to themselves as really, its not something you can 'prove' very easily.