Where is the safety on a Glock 17?

Flecktarn

I have a KWA Glock 34 (same as 17 with longer slide)

The manual shows something to do with the trigger but it's in Japanese so I'm not sure of it.

Cheers!

gungun

on the trigger there should be a small second trigger looking thing
when the gun is cocked the main trigger moves out a bit and you can then pull this small trigger up so it is perpendicular to the main trigger
that'll stop the trigger being pulled untill that small bit has been pushed down into its original position
(i hope that wasnt confusing:))

http://www.tea-and-medals.co.uk/images/glock18_triggersafety.jpg

thats what i mean:D

Flecktarn

Thanks gungun, I just cocked mine there and the small trigger is flush with the big one, thats ready to fire now but how do you get the small trigger to come out from the big trigger?

gungun

i just pull it out with a finger nail
it should click

Flecktarn

Vents wrote: »

I have a KWA G17 and the 'safty' is a 2nd trigger mech. although Mine will fire without it being held down.

See the pic below, thats the safty trigger.

So when the small is protruding = safe, small trigger flush with big = fire ?

gungun

yep when its like the above pic it'll fire
when perpendicular the trigger isnt going anywhere:D

Flecktarn

gungun wrote: »

i just pull it out with a finger nail
it should click

Wow you must have small fingers I can't get the safety out!

Masada

Yup, the gun cant be accidentally fired since the trigger safety prevents this. It needs a finger to pull in the small safety trigger before the actual trigger.

gungun

Flecktarn wrote: »

Wow you must have small fingers I can't get the safety out!

it could be a bit stiff the first time
give it a go with a knife but if you feel you have to use a lot of presure it may end up breaking

Phractal

Actually... These safeties, on a well used gun, dont work like it says on the tin. I once had an embarassing incident involving a loaded glock and my inner thigh. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK was all I said.

Perhaps a bit of rubber behind the trigger to block it? Or buy a better gun than a f*cking glock

Flecktarn

Masada wrote: »

Yup, the gun cant be accidentally fired since the trigger safety prevents this. It needs a finger to pull in the small safety trigger before the actual trigger.

Thanks again Masada but you see when I cock mine, ready to shoot the trigger is ready to fire (flush with each other) when it should be sticking out a bit(on safe) and then I squeeze the trigger thus pushing the safety?

gungun

lol
yea mine when off when i holstered it in a mag pouch:p then again i didnt have the trigger safety on:o
scared the sh*t outta me
once the safety is on it works great for me though

Flecktarn

Phractal wrote: »

Actually... These safeties, on a well used gun, dont work like it says on the tin. I once had an embarassing incident involving a loaded glock and my inner thigh. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK was all I said.

Perhaps a bit of rubber behind the trigger to block it? Or buy a better gun than a f*cking glock

Nah I think it works (I hope) its just I'm not 100% on how to use it!

Masada

It can only accidentally discharge if something touches the trigger enough to trip the safety and if something does that, the person holding the gun is to blame. If you get into the habbit of not instinctively fingering the trigger when your not ready to fire then it avoids the problem altogether.,
I use a number of different KWA glocks and love the safety. its fool proof and cant catch you out like some others like the M9 or similar.

Masada

Flecktarn wrote: »

Nah I think it works (I hope) its just I'm not 100% on how to use it!

If the gun is uncocked its usually level with the trigger, but when ya cock it, the safety protrudes so it becomes the first part you touch if you pull the trigger. It doesnt prevent you from pulling the trigger like some safety's, it simply prevents the trigger from firing if it got a knock.

Phractal

Masada: I said 'older' as the safety was well worn down and actually non functioning. This is due to friction and abrasion wearing it down.

I love the M9 as its truly retard proof and a blind monkey can use it. However the 1911 has the BEST safety - half cock, grip safety, and manual safety.

Flecktarn

Masada wrote: »

It can only accidentally discharge if something touches the trigger enough to trip the safety and if something does that, the person holding the gun is to blame. If you get into the habbit of not instinctively fingering the trigger when your not ready to fire then it avoids the problem altogether.,
I use a number of different KWA glocks and love the safety. its fool proof and cant catch you out like some others like the M9 or similar.

It'll take getting used to

Thanks guys I'll try again after my lunch

Masada

Phractal wrote: »

Masada: I said 'older' as the safety was well worn down and actually non functioning. This is due to friction and abrasion wearing it down.

I love the M9 as its truly retard proof and a blind monkey can use it. However the 1911 has the BEST safety - half cock, grip safety, and manual safety.

Its actually one of the most unreliable in my experience. M1911s use a single leaf spring in the grip to operate the trigger, hammer sear and the safety. this part very often bends slightly and prevents it from operating.

Flecktarn

Masada wrote: »

If the gun is uncocked its usually level with the trigger, but when ya cock it, the safety protrudes so it becomes the first part you touch if you pull the trigger. It doesnt prevent you from pulling the trigger like some safety's, it simply prevents the trigger from firing if it got a knock.

Thats the exact opposite to whats happening on mine, the gun is cocked its level, the gun is uncocked the safety protrudes!

Masada

lol, its probably just a little sticky, it should be quite loose and freely able to move.

Flecktarn

Masada wrote: »

lol, its probably just a little sticky, it should be quite loose and freely able to move.

Yeah she's after turning from tan to black so that could be it!

Flecktarn

That must of been it the black paint kinda welded the two triggers together. I know how to do it now, cock it, push the back of the trigger to make the it protrude a bit and then use my nail to pick it out the other side, easy!

Thanks to all who helped!

EDIT: Its not really a safety that's suited to airsoft, I read it only stops the RS going off when dropped and in my experience so far GBB's don't really go off when their dropped do they?

gungun

mine never has
but i guess its best not to drop them:D

Masada

nah its unlikely for it to go off accidentally, Not to say its impossible though.

The real Glock has 2 more safetys aswell as that too.:)

gungun

i thought it was just the hair trigger and the heavy first trigger pull
whats the third?

Masada

Theres one on the firing pin aswell.,:)