RSA to expected to advise drivers to have one(but only one) for the road

Sandwich

"AT LEAST 18 drivers killed in crashes between 2003 and 2005 had a blood alcohol level between the current limit of 80mg and the Government’s proposed new lower limit of 50mg, according to a new Health Service Executive."

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/motors/2009/0923/1224255051899.html

Thats 6 per year. So its safer to drive with one drink than none.

- Expect RSA to launch tv campaign urging drivers to make sure they have a drink before driving.

- Gardai to launch random testing to ensure drivers keep their alcohol levels between 50 and 80mg/l.

- Rural pub boom imminent to provide suitable 'refueling' stops for drivers.

- Insurance premiums of pioneers to be loaded due to their high risk non drinker category.

(statistical logic terms and conditions apply)

Seth Brundle

Sandwich wrote: »

Thats 6 per year. So its safer to drive with one drink than none.

How was this worked out?

Busta Hyman

18 ppl / 3 years (2003 - 2005) = 6 ppl per year

Seth Brundle

How is it safer to have one than none?

Sofiztikated

Does anyone know where I can find statistics for the amount of deaths per blood alcohol levels?

Just trying to find out if there are more deaths in the lower levels of drinkdriving than the absolute ****faced drivers.

Graham_B18C

I don't know if there is any stats like that around, but its all reletive, if it shows up that more people in the lower levels are being killed, i'd put that down to more people driving in the lower levels than the higher ones

Sofiztikated

But I'm looking for statistics.

I'd be sure deaths per million on lower levels would certainly be lower then deaths per million on higher levels.

AugustusMaximus

To get these statistics to make sense you would have to find out what percentage of drivers for a given alcohol level crash.

You can't say that the majority of people crashing has a zero level due to the vast majority of drivers driving with a zero alcohol level.


While any alcohol will disimprove your ability to control a car, there may be the case that drivers with a bit of drink in them may drive slower and attempt to drive with more care due to the perceived risk (by themselves) of being less well able to control the car with a few drinks in them. There is also the case that they will not speed etc as they wouldn't want to draw attention to themselves from gardai etc.

Absurdum

Sandwich wrote: »

Thats 6 per year. So its safer to drive with one drink than none.

Zero blind drivers were killed in the same period, they're the safest on the road.

Eyeball removal will commence on 1/1/10

Zube

Here's a report from an RSA conference in 2008.

The key data is on page 24 "Blood Alcohol levels in killed drivers":

Not recorded : 35%

Zero: 26%
1-19: 2%
20-49: 3%
50-80: 3%
81-159: 9%
160-239: 12%
240+: 9%

Zube

Needless to say, the RSA, Irish Times and this dude Dr. Bedford would all fail if this were a Statistics exam.

C.D.

Zube wrote: »

Here's a report from an RSA conference in 2008.

The key data is on page 24 "Blood Alcohol levels in killed drivers":

Not recorded : 35%

Zero: 26%
1-19: 2%
20-49: 3%
50-80: 3%
81-159: 9%
160-239: 12%
240+: 9%

Meaningless as it does not take into account the number of miles driven by each category. I'd say 95%+ of all miles are driven by the first category. Typical bullsh** rolled out by people with no knowledge of statistics.

GreeBo

C.D. wrote: »

Typical bullsh** rolled out by people with no knowledge of statistics.

I know! only 25% of people understand statistics.

Zube

GreeBo wrote: »

I know! only 25% of people understand statistics.

92% of the statistics you hear are made up on the spot!

jimmycrackcorm

Zube wrote: »

Here's a report from an RSA conference in 2008.

The key data is on page 24 "Blood Alcohol levels in killed drivers":

Not recorded : 35%

Zero: 26%
1-19: 2%
20-49: 3%
50-80: 3%
81-159: 9%
160-239: 12%
240+: 9%

Statistically then you are 24% safer by having a blood alcohol level of 1-19 than zero????

Mr.Diagnostic

Statistics are like bikinis……….

What they reveal is amazing but what they hide is fantastic……..

bog master

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Does anyone know where I can find statistics for the amount of deaths per blood alcohol levels?

Just trying to find out if there are more deaths in the lower levels of drinkdriving than the absolute ****faced drivers.

If you go to the RSA website and under publications you will find it. According to 2003 stats, alcohol "was not a factor" in 63.5% of fatal crashes.

When alcohol is considered a contributory factor what does that mean?

Well, to my surprise, wait for it now, 20mg/100ml!!!

So,if one pint of beer supposedly puts you near the current limit of 80mg/100ml, then a quarter of a pint would put you in that category in the case of a crash, as alcohol being a contributory factor.