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need advice on martial art headguard

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    What's the sport? To be honest you shouldn't need a headguard for sparring. Your sparring partner should be:

    a) exercising restraint
    and
    b) wearing big hefty gloves


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭ladylouise


    Khannie wrote: »
    What's the sport? To be honest you shouldn't need a headguard for sparring. Your sparring partner should be:

    a) exercising restraint
    and
    b) wearing big hefty gloves
    ITF tae kwon do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭waterfordkick


    To be honest you shouldn't need a headguard for sparring.

    I think I'd have to disagree and say you should always ware a headguard when sparring. From novice to pro no matter how light the spar accidents can always happen but some can be prevented !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    Cover the head v's cover what's hitting it. Not much difference really.

    I've never worn head gear during sparring and never suffered any head injuries. My sparring partners are always wearing 16oz gloves and shin pads.

    edit: Anyway, if your partners aren't wearing protective stuff, then you'll need headgear of course. That one looks grand to me (if a bit stiff...I'd prefer a boxing style one myself).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭Roper


    In TKD you wear very light gloves so I would say that headguards are necessary as accidents happen. In my experience, it's much more difficult to injure someone sparring in Muay Thai than it is in TKD due to the safety equipment used. I also think the contact rules in TKD don't help either. You have semi-contact rules but they're a bit like looking at an inkblot test. My semi is harder than yours... ahem.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Nothingcompares


    I think it's fairly standard for any boxing club to have everyone wearing head gear when sparring. It seems to be less often the case in MMA/Thai but I'm open to correction. I think there is a tiny little bit of debate about whether it's necessary to spar in big gloves and head gear.

    Having said that, that head gear isn't what they use in amateur boxing and I wouldn't have much faith in it for that kind of training.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭ladylouise


    i am asking about this specific head guard ? that's all i asking.not any thing else.

    http://www.playwell.co.uk/headguard-...sk-p-1750.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    doubt they'd suit ITF or any sparring with kicks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭ladylouise


    Bambi wrote: »
    doubt they'd suit ITF or any sparring with kicks
    what it suit for ?why sell then if its no good?that does n,t make sence


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    You're right, that made no sense. It's probably a great head guard, buy it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭ladylouise


    Bambi wrote: »
    You're right, that made no sense. It's probably a great head guard, buy it.
    not helping !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭waterfordkick


    here's another make of headguard. Remember when you are buying a headguard to get a good one and if that means spending a few extra euro for safety its worth it. the same as a gumshield. Why not ask your tae kwon do instructor what the best is to buy ?
    Anyway :
    http://www.topprosports.ie/index.php?cPath=105_106&osCsid=ba4d93976bc65cf1c78bfe8a25c1056a


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭Niall Keane


    Would agree with Khainne, I don't use head gear for sparring either (sanshou) I find that they are obstructive to peripheral vision, and so more dangerous re. roundhouses, hooks etc. you know the blows with serious power!
    On that, I never found them to stop power, there's plenty of knockouts in amateur sanshou competitions, I think they basically prevent cuts.
    So for sparring, as its not regulated, I'd second Khainne, no head gear, but good gloves, and intelligent sparring partners, i.e. they know to control their power and not to persue a knockout when training.
    You can always educate an ignorant sparring partner with a few heavy hits.

    If all you're thinking about is risk management of a commercial enterprise, then any headgear with ISO / CE approval should keep you out of court.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭ladylouise


    i need one with face mask. like the head guard i was looking at.its around 42 euros


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭waterfordkick


    well if you like it get it ! you'll be the one wearing it.


    As to the no headguard, in our club we spar with 16oz topten gloves and nobody gets in with out headguard. sometimes even school sparring headguards are worn.If you've got your own good proper guard that fits it wont obstruct your vision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Personally, I wouldn't want one with a face shield. I'd be constantly worried about it breaking in my face and there will be always be the chance that condensation will form on it. I know that helmet features a 'shatterproof' guard but that wouldn't convice me.

    If you do want a headguard, I would probably say that you should get something along the lines of a boxing headguard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,183 ✭✭✭cletus


    why do you need the face mask? how heavy is the contact? what type of gloves are your sparring partners wearing?

    That particular headguard looks to me to be made from the same material they make those point sparring gloves from, PU air blown foam stuff. If so, and the sparring your doing is heavy it wont be worth a sh1t to you. on the other hand if the sparring is heavy, your partner should be wearing 16oz gloves, therefore the headguard, especially that particular one, becomes redundant.

    A good leather AIBA approved headguard will probably set you back €80-€100, but the question is, does your training warrant it

    edit: dudara got there first


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭RealJohn


    I recommend a Top Ten head guard. Best head guard I ever bought, bought it years ago and it's still in great condition in spite of using it in many competitions. To be fair, I rarely wear it sparring.

    However, in tkd, if your training partners are hitting you hard enough that you feel the need to wear headgear while sparring in training, you should find a new club. And in the mean time, learn to get out of the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭mr roper


    hey lads she just wants an opinion on a headguard with a face guard not the genarel type.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭ladylouise


    thanks for your help


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