Very nasty "Trick"

Rondolfus

A friend of mine held a dinner party recently. Thankfully I couldn't attend. Anyway another friend of mine (who is vegan) did attend and had a very cruel trick played on her. The host thought it would be hilarious to "slip" meat product into what he said was a vegan friendly dish...

Apparently most of the other guests knew what was happening and stayed quiet until after the meal was eaten. Everybody had a great laugh at my vegans friends expense, who not surprisingly stormed out.

I am extremely angry with the people involved. People who I thought were good friends but now Im not so sure.

Has anyone else had this experience???

Surley this is highly unusual???

sweet-rasmus

not fair at all! a few of us have had the experience where you are offered meat in jest, or where you are accidentally given meat hidden in your food somewhere, but this is one hell of a cruel joke. Never heard of anything like it before.

ztoical

The only thing any friends of mine have ever done is to offer me a taste of something they are eating cus they simply forgot, nothing cruel or mean meant by it. I wouldn't call those people who did that friends, it's not funny no matter how they might see it and no one who is really someones friend would be so disrespectful to their beliefs. Had your friend been kosher would they have hidden pork in the meal and thought it funny? I don't agree with all my friends different beliefs but I wouldn't mock them or play 'jokes' on them for having them and anyone who did would very quickly not be a friend.

Doolee

Everytime I go home to my parents house and sit down for dinner (after ive prepared my own) the conversation goes something like this...

Dad: (Face wrinkles up in a disapproving/confused way) Ah Grainne...whats that???
Me: Lentils dad.
Dad: Hhhmmmmmmfffffffff lentils.......LENTILSSS.....will ya have a bit o meat
Me: No thanks Dad.
Dad: Go on will ya...here here...just a slice...
(A battle of forks begins between him an me as slices of meat are thrown between eachothers plates)
Me: No Dad I'm fine...IM FINE!!! WILL YA STOP!
Dad: GO ON!!!
ME: NO!!! HERE YOU HAVE SOME LENTILS!!!
Dad: Arrrra stopit. Hmmmmmmmmffffff. Vegetables, its all ya ever seem to eat I dunno. Sure that cant be good for ya.

Aaaaaaand Scene.

7 years of it...Not the same as your friends evil trick but still...its nice to be supported in your beliefs as a vege.

Slaphead07

Rondolfus wrote: »

Apparently most of the other guests knew what was happening and stayed quiet until after the meal was eaten. Everybody had a great laugh at my vegans friends expense, who not surprisingly stormed out.

Those "friends" should be shot in the face with balls of their own ****e. I would go medieval on their ignorant asses and have nothing to do with them ever again. Maybe that's just me.

Slaphead07

Slaphead07 wrote: »

Those "friends" should be shot in the face with balls of their own ****e. I would go medieval on their ignorant asses and have nothing to do with them ever again. Maybe that's just me.

Tied down and spoonfed dog****e until they didnt see the funny side anymore.

Clare Bear

I'd go ballistic to be honest. Real friends respect your beliefs. Nothing even remotely funny about that. Pricks.

Absurdum

Clare Bear wrote: »

I'd go ballistic to be honest. Real friends respect your beliefs. Nothing even remotely funny about that. Pricks.

+1

I'd be throwing chairs around tbh

and then planning revenge

Nature Boy

I don't mind the odd bit of p1ss taking but that was way out of line. My worst experience was someone shoving meat in my face but this is far worse!

fillefatale

Seriously, with friends like that....? I'd reconsider who my friends are, especially since everyone else knew and kept quiet until after the meal?! Thats not on.

Never had it played on me thank god, but I do remember an episode of Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares where they had people in to sample these pizzas for some restaurant or other, one of the guys was a vegetarian and the pizza was supposedly for veggies, but in fact the base had been lined with parma ham - anyway the polish kitchen assistant who made it neglected to mention it and instead giggled all the time when he was eating it... then they all had a good laugh at him. The dude was a bit odd anyway, but still!

sweet-rasmus

nooooo

kiffer

feeding meet to a vegetarian/vegan by mistake is ~ok~ ... but tricking them into it is really terrible... (what sort of meet product was it?)

Fingers down throat, return meal to table. See who's laughing then...

Sock Monster

Friends are people who respect your beliefs even if they are different than their own.

Friends do not ridicule and make fun of you in front of others.

Friends do not gang up and bully you.

These people are not your friends


. . . But I'm guessing you want a solution as to what to say to these people, in a calm and mature way - I'm guessing that being hysterical will only add "fuel to their immature fire" - ideally you need something that will make them feel, shameful, small and embarrassed.

Good Luck

Slaphead07

fillefatale wrote: »

Never had it played on me thank god, but I do remember an episode of Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmares where they had people in to sample these pizzas for some restaurant or other...

I remember an interview where Ramsey said he had put meat in a veggie meal "for a laugh". He denied it afterwards saying he was only joking but it strikes me as exactly the kind of thing man would do and I belive his denial was a lie. What sort of person thinks that's funny?

Sock Monster

I’m imagining when some of these dinner party guests / organisers relay their "hilarious" story to other people this week – the reactions they will receive will probably not be positive ones.

smegmar

Doolee wrote: »

Everytime I go home to my parents house and sit down for dinner (after ive prepared my own) the conversation goes something like this...

Dad: (Face wrinkles up in a disapproving/confused way) Ah Grainne...whats that???
Me: Lentils dad.
Dad: Hhhmmmmmmfffffffff lentils.......LENTILSSS.....will ya have a bit o meat
Me: No thanks Dad.
Dad: Go on will ya...here here...just a slice...
(A battle of forks begins between him an me as slices of meat are thrown between eachothers plates)
Me: No Dad I'm fine...IM FINE!!! WILL YA STOP!
Dad: GO ON!!!
ME: NO!!! HERE YOU HAVE SOME LENTILS!!!
Dad: Arrrra stopit. Hmmmmmmmmffffff. Vegetables, its all ya ever seem to eat I dunno. Sure that cant be good for ya.

Aaaaaaand Scene.

7 years of it...Not the same as your friends evil trick but still...its nice to be supported in your beliefs as a vege.

HA HA HA I laughed till it hurt. very funny stuff

Tar.Aldarion

You need to reevaluate the type of person you are friends with, I cant think of anybody I know who would think of doing this. A lot of poeple have bad friends, they just put up with it. You choose your friends, so I'd suggest giving that a try unless they are quite apologetic.

Moonmad

Thats terrible!!!!

When i was still living at home a good few years ago, one of my friend's a vegetarian called around while my mam was making dinner. She had a couple pizzas in the oven, we all ate and later on my mam told me she picked all the ham and pepperoni of my mate's slices of pizza.
I was mortified and gave out to my mother, she just said "well your friend could do with a bit of meat anyhow"
I could never tell my friend!!

lycopodium123

OMG, that is absolutely disgusting behaviour!!! great friends they are.......hillarious..........when you're 15 (or 5!)

never mind the veggie thing, they obviously have absolutely NO respect for her if they were all in on it and no-one said anything.
I'd be furious.
That's not on at all.

And you know, its so easy for people reading this to go "ah, fekkin veggie, tree-higgin mad yokes off on one again...." and just dismissing it, but fcuk that, i dont hug trees, i lead quite a "normal", active social life, I have no problems interacting with people, i dont wear "hemp" clothing, I CHOOSE to be a veggie for reasons of my own and dont shove that down people's throats, or try to "trick" them into "my way" for some kind of ego boost. How could people think its funny to make someone eat meat when they have made a conscious choice not to? Thats like putting alcohol into a reforming alocholoc's glass of coke and waiting for the "laugh"

disgusting
assh0les

Nunubird

What a bunch of a$$holes :mad:
It's not the eating of the meat that would annoy me but their ignorant lets-make-fun-of-his-beliefs attitude that does. I would never mock somebody else's beliefs, no matter what I thought of them.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

That's absolutely manky :mad: I think everyone's had an experience when a friend or family member accidentally offers them a bite of a ham sammich or just genuinely doesn't realise what vegetarian means (my granny still doesn't understand why "vegetable soup" with lumps of kidney in it isn't vegetarian), but to purposely disrespect somebody like that is scummy. I would be so upset if that happened to me, not so much because I'd eaten meat, but because my friends would have revealed themselves as d1ckheads, complete bloody d1ckheads

tman

For one of them to do it would be bad enough, but for a group of "friends" to actually be in on it, and not one of them try to stop it from happening!!!?!
Sod them, they sound like a bunch of disrespectful wankbags!

Invite them around for a nice dog poo curry, so how they like them apples!

leeroybrown

These "friends" need to have it pointed out to them that they could actually have made someone ill. I'm an omnivore myself but I've met long-term vegetarians/vegans who say that accidentally consuming meat can have nasty results for them with symptoms like food mild poisoning.

raah!

Tbh I could imagine my friends doing exactly this to me, but it is only because for alot of people things like vegetarianism and veganism don't make any sense.

But if you want them to know about how important your dietary choices are, you have to, at least partially, fulfill these stereotypes you don't want them to associate with you. At least these are my views on that. I can see it's mostly irrelevant though.

Then again, I guess other people should make some effort to understand how you think and to accommodate it. The bastards!

tricky D

I'd be livid. I'd have thoughts of immediately putting the 2 fingers down the throat without a care as to where the targets are (now former friends, TV, other electronics and valuables would be good). Perhaps a few infidelities, real and made-up, might be revealed - why not, it's not like I'm caring about these persons anymore. Followed by quick exit with trail of destruction and permanent removal of names from phonebook/life. While I'm not quite as strict as I used to be - I don't get too worried about one or two things like parmesan - and generally laid back, after decades of self-discipline, I do have a definite line in the sand and this 'joke' would be light years over it and an unforgivable breach of trust.

Zombienosh

Now I'm not a veggie, I love meat and don't think I could ever give it up.
But -, I totally understand the point to being veggie, and the so called "trick" mentioned in the first post is horribly disrespectful.

For someone to be a veggie they must have strong beliefs about it. Its not some phase or temporary little fad. Its a serious thing, So for someone to just p*ss all over your beliefs like that by tricking you into doing something you dont want to do is just plain wrong.

I hope they're no longer your friends.

ztoical

raah! wrote: »

Tbh I could imagine my friends doing exactly this to me, but it is only because for alot of people things like vegetarianism and veganism don't make any sense.

Someones beliefs shouldn't have to make sense to their friends for them to respect them....it's not the being vegetarian part of this story that makes me annoyed at what those people did but the fact they were meant to be that persons friends and showed zero respect for them. I've seen it happen alot in this country when it comes to drink...someone says they don't drink for whatever reason and people give them some amount of abuse or spike their drinks and think it's really funny. If someone doesn't want to drink they shouldn't have to defend themselves to their friends or random idoits in the bar.

DigiGal

I had a similar experience both me and my OH are veggie. We sent the lads in work to get us rolls for lunch.

When we bit into them a big lump of corn beef....****ing disgusting, I was nearly sick. NOT FUNNY AT ALL


I relish in the fact that I will live longer then the savage bastads!

axel rose

Would you believe that a similiar thing happened in a coffee shop of all places! (Fairly new, in Navan, dressing itself up as a deli/home style, same street as BOI )

Moranic fool of a woman didnt understand that veggies dont eat chicken! What p1ssed me off was her attitude. ("what do you want me to do about it now?") :mad::mad::mad:

sweet-rasmus

Hellm0 and phutyle have been warned. axel rose, there was no need to add fuel to the fire; warned also.
Behave!

Back on topic or thread gets locked.

I-like-eggs,mmm

Wow, that's mean

One very drunken/jelly legs night someone convinced me that some hot dog stand was vegetarian....and I was starving... and I ate it Was so sick and sickened.

Limerick91

As a person who loves meat, I find that a very cruel trick.

Like other people have said these people would not be considered friends in my book

I wonder how these people would treat somebody who was coeliac at a dinner party

Getwellsoon

That's awful Especially that they ALL sat there and said nothing. I really couldn't do that, just sit there and watch someone do something so cruel. The people who sat by and knew about it are as bad as the person who did it. The worst part is the whole disrespecting you and your beliefs. I wouldn't mind if someone added dairy to a meal they'd made and didn't realise it, even though I actually feel sick after having milk/cheese, I wouldn't hold it against someone if it was an accident, but playing a cruel trick like this is so SO bad.

cocoa

Do vegetarianism and/or veganism fall under 'beliefs'? I mean, is it just 'belief that xyz is wrong'? Thought that was a bit weird, would've classed it a life choice myself but anywho...

I'd try to avoid being friends with anyone who finds pleasure in making / forcing / tricking others into doing things they do not want to do, for any reason. If they can't find pleasure in something positive then I can't find motivation to associate with them...

Whispered

It is a life choice. The reason the choice is made is because of one belief or another. Like most life choices really.

OP, I hope your friend is ok. I'd be very very upset, both because of the eating meat thing, but I don't know how I would react if my "friends" treated me like that. It's so cruel.

henryporter

One very drunken/jelly legs night someone convinced me that some hot dog stand was vegetarian....and I was starving... and I ate it Was so sick and sickened.

I did exactly the same thing when I was a young lad, just starting out on my vegetarian quest - cured me rightly off meat of any kind ever again.

On the original point, I think it's one of the most despicable things ever done - get rid of those friends and surround yourself with like-minded individuals.

You could also invite the culprits around for one last laxitive laden supper:eek:

ztoical

cocoa wrote: »

Do vegetarianism and/or veganism fall under 'beliefs'? I mean, is it just 'belief that xyz is wrong'? Thought that was a bit weird, would've classed it a life choice myself but anywho...

People's reasons for being vegetarian/vegan are very varied, it's not one group like some people like to see it. People can be vegetarian due to religious beliefs, health reasons, their own personal ethics etc etc Not everyone is vegetarian/vegan because of a belief that xyz is wrong. Saying something is a life choice as different to a belief is a very blurred line IMO, I would see someones choice of religion being a lifestyle choice and no different.

Slaphead07

cocoa wrote: »

Do vegetarianism and/or veganism fall under 'beliefs'? ....... Thought that was a bit weird, would've classed it a life choice myself but anywho......

helena.ryan wrote: »

It is a life choice. The reason the choice is made is because of one belief or another. Like most life choices really.

I don't see it at as a 'life choice' at all. I couldn't eat meat even if I did want to. The phrase "life choice" (or worse again "lifestyle choice") reduces what is a deeply held ethical conviction to something like a fashion accessory.

Whispered

I think for me anyway it is a life choice. I mean, at one stage I chose to stop eating meat. I chose to stop eating it because of very deep seated beliefs. Almost every aspect of my life points me towards a vegetarian diet. From my spiritual beliefs, to how I spend my free time. The fact that I chose to stop, doesn't for me make it any less of an ethical conviction.

I know what you mean about how it sounds, it does sound like it reduces the reasons, but it is, for most, a choice they make in their lives for whatever reason. Be that ethical, spiritual, cultural or the more teenage "fashionable" reasons. But for me personally, the choice to stop eating meat, was a choice.

cocoa

Slaphead07 wrote: »

I don't see it at as a 'life choice' at all. I couldn't eat meat even if I did want to. The phrase "life choice" (or worse again "lifestyle choice") reduces what is a deeply held ethical conviction to something like a fashion accessory.

I'd disagree. While it may be (due to) a deeply held ethical conviction for some, the definition of vegetarianism does not include the motivations for it. A vegetarian simply doesn't eat meat, for whatever reason, whether they want to or not, whether they love or hate animals, whether they follow this code of ethics, or that one.

I've seen people get insulted at people for thinking because a person is / does one thing, they think or do another thing. To say that all vegetarians or vegans have a certain belief or conviction seems similar to me.

smegmar

how many of them were there involved in this trick.

because I know a few very angry veggies that would be happy to pay them a visit on your behalf. I'm sure most of the posters in the thread would come too. we could force feed them anything you can think of.

sweet-rasmus

Joking is fun and all, but boards.ie does not promote violence. You have all been warned.

Slaphead07

cocoa wrote: »

...the definition of vegetarianism does not include the motivations for it.

What definition is this again? I missed that memo.

cocoa wrote: »

...To say that all vegetarians or vegans have a certain belief or conviction seems similar to me.

who said that?

cocoa

Slaphead07 wrote: »

What definition is this again? I missed that memo.

Fair point, I have been labouring under the assumption that a vegetarian is a person who does not eat meat. A definition which I did not look up previously, but, after a quick web search (not reliable evidence, I know, but when they all agree...) it seems to be about right...

Slaphead07 wrote: »

who said that?

Ok, upon re-reading it seems I've made some unfair assumptions and we have some fundamental differences of opinion, which is fine.

Slaphead07 wrote: »

I don't see it at as a 'life choice' at all. I couldn't eat meat even if I did want to. The phrase "life choice" (or worse again "lifestyle choice") reduces what is a deeply held ethical conviction to something like a fashion accessory.

Here, it seems I mistakenly read "I don't see it as a 'life choice'" (for me?) as "I don't see it as a 'life choice'" (for anyone). For this I apologise. I would still be of the opinion that vegetarianism, i.e., 'not eating meat', is a choice. It could have any reason, from a personal code of ethics, to wanting to be cool, to wanting to be healthy, to simply disliking meat, to anything else you can think of. I would say that no matter how deep or shallow the reasons, the choice is still just a choice and nothing more as a result of its motivation. But that's just my opinion and I apologise if I came across as argumentative or disagreeable. I also apologise for jumping to conclusions and misunderstanding things =(

tatli_lokma

I would suggest that your friend 'pretend' all is now well, and that they overreacted. as a gesture to show no hard feelings lets all meet up for a drink? I'll even get the first round in!

Cue vast quantities of eye drops in their drinky poos (pun intended!)! stay long enough to see them swally it down, then tell them all what you had just done and wished them a pleasant evening in the bog with a ring of fire! Then leave them to it!
that would be my plan anyway.

Actually just to even things out a bit, I would possibly video them running to the loo on my phone and youtube it (making sure you give us the link!). I'm sure we could even arrange for several boardsies to be present to laugh and giggle along at the moment of revelation, just to make sure they got the message!:p

Enjoy your drinky 'poos'!

Certi Layla!!

O my god that is outlandish behaviour, my jaw nearly hit the floor when i read that. TBH the other friends seem like psycho's like who does that?? terrible act. revenge is called on here, she/he should do something to degrade there believes and i bet they wouldnt think it was half as funny. i think the ones that went along with it are as bad as the person who done it. you should back the vegan friend here if theyd do it to her theyl do it 2 u:eek:

Crumble Froo

for the 'lifestyle choice' thing... don't forget the people who actually aren't able to eat meat (without suffering life threatening consequences). if someone'd done this to my lil sister, they coulda triggered an asthma attack.

Magenta

I have no experience of being vegetarian (I browse this forum because I find you all an interesting bunch!) but I have similar experience with my friends.

I am terrified of needles/blood/etc and have passed out several times in the past over seeing, hearing about, or experiencing, needles/cuts/etc.
My friends think it's hilarious to talk about disgusting things in front of me and it doesn't matter how many times I ask them to stop, they'll keep talking about it.
They put on Trainspotting once without telling me it's about an IV drug user.
I had the same experience with some co workers in an office once, I had to leave the room because I was starting to feel weak. They insisted on talking about needles. I should have let myself pass out and then sued the bastards but my fear of passing out (and perhaps banging my head) is almost as bad as my fear of needles/blood!

I know it's not the exact same issue as what you had OP but I do understand completely how inconsiderate people can be.

ButterflyGirl23

What is the update of this Rondolfus? Have they apologiesed? Has she talked to them since?
I have to say I got an awful fright when I read that story. I just couldn't believe that "friends" could be capable of such a cruel thing.

Elliemental

Rondolfus wrote: »

A friend of mine held a dinner party recently. Thankfully I couldn't attend. Anyway another friend of mine (who is vegan) did attend and had a very cruel trick played on her. The host thought it would be hilarious to "slip" meat product into what he said was a vegan friendly dish...

Apparently most of the other guests knew what was happening and stayed quiet until after the meal was eaten. Everybody had a great laugh at my vegans friends expense, who not surprisingly stormed out.

I am extremely angry with the people involved. People who I thought were good friends but now Im not so sure.

Has anyone else had this experience???

Surley this is highly unusual???

This is such a petty, cruel thing to do to someone, but unfortunatly, I can`t say that I`m surprised.
There seems to be a lot of open hostility towards vegetarianism/veganism out there these days. I think a lot of meat eaters feel, in some way, threatened by veggies. I don`t know if anyone else has noticed this?

Thoushaltnot

Crumble Froo wrote: »

for the 'lifestyle choice' thing... don't forget the people who actually aren't able to eat meat (without suffering life threatening consequences). if someone'd done this to my lil sister, they coulda triggered an asthma attack.

Hope you don't mind me asking but what's your sister's problem with meat? PM me if you prefer.