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Z day tactic - I think i've cracked it

  • 18-09-2009 12:34pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭


    Simple thought came to mind please feel free to find flaws...

    Upon the dawn of Z day, I would make it to the nearest boat/ship. Choosing the right craft is key, preferably one with a sail and engine. It would need to have a proper kitchen also..

    So once on board we'd leave land and potentially never return to shore. Bringing supplies is a no brainer, weapons, food, water, fuel and most importantly fishing equipment - nets rods lines etc.

    Set sail and become self efficent until we'd find safe land or an island to settle on. Isle of man, guernsey etc.

    thoughts... is it flawed?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Simple thought came to mind please feel free to find flaws...

    Upon the dawn of Z day, I would make it to the nearest boat/ship. Choosing the right craft is key, preferably one with a sail and engine. It would need to have a proper kitchen also..

    So once on board we'd leave land and potentially never return to shore. Bringing supplies is a no brainer, weapons, food, water, fuel and most importantly fishing equipment - nets rods lines etc.

    Set sail and become self efficent until we'd find safe land or an island to settle on. Isle of man, guernsey etc.

    thoughts... is it flawed?
    Solitude drives humans nuts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Can you sail a boat? how big would it need to be? what happens in bad weather, high seas etc. It's not a bad idea but there are alot of things that may go wrong.

    How would you get fresh water? Living on the sea would be great short term but unless you had an experianced crew, long term living would be a drawn out death sentence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,558 ✭✭✭SmileyPaul


    kinda sounds like the same idea as hot air balooning for the rest of your life...... I doubt it'd work, less you had one of those boats that max brooks talks about quite quickly in WWZ with the wind turbines instead of said.... that'd be epic! but still, you'd need water :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 263 ✭✭Magaa


    what about zombie birds?

    they will cirlce around you bringing more and more and more :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,909 ✭✭✭Agent J


    Boats break down, parts break.

    Without proper training and experience you'd probably end up dying from starvation after your boat gets stuck in the middle of nowhere or drowned from over turning during a storm.

    Also end of Dawn of the Dead 2004. Even if you get to a boat and spent a good while at sea. When you come into land eventually odds are you'll meet zombies. You won't be the only one with a boat and some of them might have infected.

    A boat would buy you time but without an idea of what to do with that time it is just prolonging the inevitable.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,394 ✭✭✭DakotaYoda


    What Agent J said - at some point you HAVE to go to land. There will be no choice in the matter and then its just a matter of time.

    Also - zombies walk just fine under water. As soon as you hit someplace shallow'ish yer gonna have some serious trouble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭NOGMaxpower


    ok ok there are flaws in the plan but surely its a better option than staying on land?

    breakages happen, shortages happen but at least i would live long enough to experience these things.

    Sure finding an uninfected land would be hard but there has to be some island somewhere that hasn't been infected. If the catalyst to infection is airborn well theres no point continuing on you'll end up dead.

    Issues like water: Ocean is full of it, boil it drink it. Food, fish for it.. water food = long life. thats assuming there are no zombie makrel out there.

    Also thinking about the ocean, would being onboard a nuclear sub be the best option EVER? They can survive for years without surfacing and pwer would never be an issue?


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    Certainly in World War Z ships had mixed results. The military was able to survive through discipline and nuclear power but many ships succumbed to the infection through secretly infected passengers, piracy and sea bed Zs.

    Rather than a ship I'd go with an inaccessible island or "inland island". No beaches, just high cliffs all round with enough land to support crops and have fresh drinking water.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 328 ✭✭_SONIC_


    DakotaYoda wrote: »
    Also - zombies walk just fine under water. As soon as you hit someplace shallow'ish yer gonna have some serious trouble.


    impossible they have a mass just like us so theyll float to the top!!!!


    go to the sea right now and try walk underwater its impossible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    _SONIC_ wrote: »
    impossible they have a mass just like us so theyll float to the top!!!!


    go to the sea right now and try walk underwater its impossible

    It's more possible than you think. If a living person were to walk underwater, the air in their lungs and other parts of the body would make them what to rise. Zeds don't have air in their lungs and would have swallowed large amounts of seawater making them heavier.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,394 ✭✭✭DakotaYoda


    It's more possible than you think. If a living person were to walk underwater, the air in their lungs and other parts of the body would make them what to rise. Zeds don't have air in their lungs and would have swallowed large amounts of seawater making them heavier.

    And Mr Moderator gets a gold star for the day!! Nice work Micky - your answer would be correct.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭Jesus Juice


    For me I think I would go to some of the islands on Lough Derg if I was going anywhere.Easier to get to shore for supplies etc,wouldnt have to be too experienced boatsman to navigate the Derg plus I know where my friends family keeps their boat so that'd be mine.

    I still think trying to stay alive on land is a much better option tbh.What happens if your on an island an everything is hunky dory,then a big swarm of underwater Z's appear on shore and you cant get to your boat.I'll take my chances on land thanks!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 328 ✭✭_SONIC_


    For me I think I would go to some of the islands on Lough Derg if I was going anywhere.!


    THE LOVE SHACK???

    oh yeah good point micky


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,476 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Live the rest of your life on a boat? I think you're best using the boat but staying close to land and just taking what you can from town to town. You just have to be quick and stealthy and you might survive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭Amhran Nua


    Scurvy.

    That is all.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 47,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭cyberwolf77


    What if we use the boat to access an offshore oil platform. Most of them have their desalination plants on board(fresh water) and would be relatively easy to defend(ladders only way up.) Might make a useful staging area for retaking coastal areas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    What if we use the boat to access an offshore oil platform. Most of them have their desalination plants on board(fresh water) and would be relatively easy to defend(ladders only way up.) Might make a useful staging area for retaking coastal areas.
    All modern structures especially those that have a specific productive task require constant supervision and maintenance. Do you know how to run an industrial sized desalination system?

    The fact is come Zday you won't be able to pilot a boat, plane, chopper, possibly even any large vehicle unless you've already been trained in how to drive these types of machinery. Even driving an articulated truck is beyond the skill set of the average person.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 47,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭cyberwolf77


    ScumLord wrote: »
    All modern structures especially those that have a specific productive task require constant supervision and maintenance. Do you know how to run an industrial sized desalination system?
    I assume there would be a manual available.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    Not to mention a supply of spare parts for the maintenance work.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 47,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭cyberwolf77


    5uspect wrote: »
    Not to mention a supply of spare parts for the maintenance work.
    This is true. Also a machine shop for fabricating new parts


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    And a machinist, and a supply of materials, cutters, power...


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 47,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭cyberwolf77


    5uspect wrote: »
    And a machinist, and a supply of materials, cutters, power...
    Assuming the crew haven't been infected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I assume there would be a manual available.
    Most industrial manuals are for reference only, they're absolutely useless to the lay person.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    A nuclear sub along the lines of WWZ could be feasible for a few years.
    However you would probably need to be in the military already.

    Perhaps that's the whole point of the Navy?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,022 ✭✭✭NOGMaxpower


    5uspect wrote: »
    A nuclear sub along the lines of WWZ could be feasible for a few years.
    However you would probably need to be in the military already.

    Perhaps that's the whole point of the Navy?!

    well that would mean in Ire we're fooked since our navy is shambolik.

    Iam sticking the boat idea, Land is just too dangerous! Float about and raid the shores from time to time picking up supplies in the search of a horny blonde to begin repopulating the world. :D


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