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Snipe

  • 15-09-2009 10:36pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭


    So anyone seeing any in your area, been out to a few spots that are usually full of them but aint seen one yet.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭dwighet


    shouldnt be long now...Im going out this weekend for a good look for some around my area....Cant get enough of snipe shooting..Great sport.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭4gun


    loads already down on my patch, plenty wet grass:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭moose112


    4gun wrote: »
    loads already down on my patch, plenty wet grass:D


    Your making me sick love going after them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 977 ✭✭✭mallards


    Went out for an hour on Saturday and only rose one. But it won't be too long before they are here in numbers!

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    and last day of last season.

    IMG_0265-1.jpg


    Mallards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭stevoman


    looking forward to it myself so i am. just have to try and get that damn setter of mine steady!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 737 ✭✭✭sfakiaman


    Haven't seen any yet and am usually tripping over them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    Snipe are my favourite game shooting. Don't usually start shooting them till November by which time the 'visitors' have usually arrived in decent numbers :)

    Lads anyone ever meet jack snipe? I only ever shot one and that was a good few years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭ayapatrick


    Snipe are my favourite game shooting. Don't usually start shooting them till November by which time the 'visitors' have usually arrived in decent numbers :)

    Lads anyone ever meet jack snipe? I only ever shot one and that was a good few years ago.

    ya got a jack snipe two seasons ago! small wee fella!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭stevoman


    Snipe are my favourite game shooting. Don't usually start shooting them till November by which time the 'visitors' have usually arrived in decent numbers :)

    Lads anyone ever meet jack snipe? I only ever shot one and that was a good few years ago.
    got one myself last season. come across them a lot but never usually fire on them beleive it or not you can distinguish them in flight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 298 ✭✭mac80


    Saw some today in louth. Always see lods of them in winter in the Ballybay area

    Mac


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭4gun


    moose112 wrote: »
    Your making me sick love going after them
    I hate the little b**tards I'd use dynamite on em if I could:D..... well thas only because they are sooo...f**kin hard to hit with a shot gun:D not a mind trying to shoot them:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 977 ✭✭✭mallards



    Lads anyone ever meet jack snipe? I only ever shot one and that was a good few years ago.


    I always see loads of them. I usually give them safe passage but occasionally one gets up like a common snipe and it's too late. Still good eating though a little small!

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    Mallards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭cavan shooter


    Nice side by side mallards what type is it??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭bunny shooter


    stevoman wrote: »
    .............beleive it or not you can distinguish them in flight.

    They fly and land within a small distance if I remember rightly whereas the common flies farther and faster and of course does the 'zig zag' ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 977 ✭✭✭mallards


    It's my trusty ugartechea. The first gun I ever bought and I still have it. It's my first choice on a wet rough shooting day!

    Mallards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭ronn


    What no. cartridge would you use on these wee chaps, persume a 6/7 be a bit heavy for them..?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭dwighet


    ronn wrote: »
    What no. cartridge would you use on these wee chaps, persume a 6/7 be a bit heavy for them..?

    I use 7`s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭gripp


    8/9 i find the best for them with improved/quater choke


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭moose112


    I have always used 7's

    One spot in particular is good for a few jack snipe but none yet:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭ayapatrick


    gripp wrote: »
    8/9 i find the best for them with improved/quater choke

    was using 32g 10's last year and i found that the front skin of their chests used be blown of when i shot them. got it with the woodwcock as well.gonn use 7s this year for all my game!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭stevoman


    i'l be using 7's meself this year. fiocchi are a good cartridge so they are. im going to wait for some rain and head up the bog with the setter after the next rainfall to see if any are stirring


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭dwighet


    I went out yesterday.After reading this thread it gave me a bit of get up and go...I met a good few snipe but they were on to me..there wasnt a breath of wind to hide the sound of the wellies squelching through the sloppy bog...
    I know there there just need a good wind to get in range of em.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭moose112


    stevoman wrote: »
    i'l be using 7's meself this year. fiocchi are a good cartridge so they are. im going to wait for some rain and head up the bog with the setter after the next rainfall to see if any are stirring


    Went out with a dog after snipe once and never again found they drove the poor dog mad, with the sheer numbers she was rising.
    I just go out on my own and have never had a problem rising them.

    I always say they are great for lads new to the sport who don't have dogs yet and they will def test them:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭stevoman


    moose112 wrote: »
    Went out with a dog after snipe once and never again found they drove the poor dog mad, with the sheer numbers she was rising.
    I just go out on my own and have never had a problem rising them.

    I always say they are great for lads new to the sport who don't have dogs yet and they will def test them:D
    very true. personally though i would be delighted if my dog was rock steady on them. after the first two weeks of november i will hunt them and woodcock and nothing else. i find the whole hunt and scenery of it delightful and you'l always get a shot.

    last year i found she was running in on them all and it was very frustrating so it was. i hope its not the same this year, i really really do.

    i pluck them and clean them out and freeze them. when i have 4 or 5 of them i cook them togther and have a nice dinner.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭flanum


    I take it ye know the season starts oct 1st?

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1977/en/si/0243.html

    Snipe From the 1st day of October, 1977, to the 31st day of January, 1978, both days inclusive.
    Woodcock From the 1st day of October, 1977, to the 31st day of January, 1978, both days inclusive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,374 ✭✭✭J.R.


    That season was in 1977


    Snipe & Jack snipe are now the same season as duck ........Sept 1st to Jan 31st

    Woodcock are the same as Pheasant, Red -Legged Partridge and pigeon!!!........Nov 1st to Jan 31st


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,631 ✭✭✭marlin vs


    flanum wrote: »
    I take it ye know the season starts oct 1st?

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1977/en/si/0243.html

    Snipe From the 1st day of October, 1977, to the 31st day of January, 1978, both days inclusive.
    Woodcock From the 1st day of October, 1977, to the 31st day of January, 1978, both days inclusive.

    It never ceases to make me wonder, how so many people don't know the proper hunting seasons.
    [IMG]https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/93778/66466.doc"]NATIONAL PARKS AND WILDLIFE 2008-2009 SHOOTING SEASONS.doc[/URL][/img]


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭4gun


    marlin vs wrote: »
    It never ceases to make me wonder, how so many people don't know the proper hunting seasons.
    [IMG]https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/93778/66466.doc"]NATIONAL PARKS AND WILDLIFE 2008-2009 SHOOTING SEASONS.doc[/URL][/img]
    Does that mean I can crack open the dynamite:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,901 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    flanum wrote: »
    I take it ye know the season starts oct 1st?

    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1977/en/si/0243.html

    Snipe From the 1st day of October, 1977, to the 31st day of January, 1978, both days inclusive.
    Woodcock From the 1st day of October, 1977, to the 31st day of January, 1978, both days inclusive.

    :confused:How is this still happening?

    The site you went to also contains the current seasons.

    The part you quoted clearly says it expires on 1978



    This happens every year, I wouldn't mind but even if it was in the stickies too, it wouldn't be read


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭stevoman


    Mellor wrote: »
    :confused:How is this still happening?

    The site you went to also contains the current seasons.

    The part you quoted clearly says it expires on 1978



    This happens every year, I wouldn't mind but even if it was in the stickies too, it wouldn't be read

    Im aware they open at sept 1st, but i wouldnt bother huntign them until nov 1st personally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭touchyie


    moose112 wrote: »
    Went out with a dog after snipe once and never again found they drove the poor dog mad, with the sheer numbers she was rising.
    I just go out on my own and have never had a problem rising them.

    I always say they are great for lads new to the sport who don't have dogs yet and they will def test them:D



    Definately agree, I was new to it last year and I had no dog of my own so when I was shooting by myself if was snipe. I tell ya they are fast, if can hit snipe the rest becomes easy!!!!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭touchyie


    stevoman wrote: »
    very true. personally though i would be delighted if my dog was rock steady on them. after the first two weeks of november i will hunt them and woodcock and nothing else. i find the whole hunt and scenery of it delightful and you'l always get a shot.

    last year i found she was running in on them all and it was very frustrating so it was. i hope its not the same this year, i really really do.

    i pluck them and clean them out and freeze them. when i have 4 or 5 of them i cook them togther and have a nice dinner.


    i read somewhere that the recommened way for cooking snipe is not to gut them, just pluck them, fold there head back and skewer them with there own beak, then bang them in the oven..... never tried it myself
    have had a half dozen pan fried breasts and some pepper sauce with fried spuds..... mmmmmmmm think i'll go shooting:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭pedroeibar


    marlin vs wrote: »
    It never ceases to make me wonder, how so many people don't know the proper hunting seasons.
    [IMG]https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/93778/66466.doc"]NATIONAL PARKS AND WILDLIFE 2008-2009 SHOOTING SEASONS.doc[/URL][/img]

    Easy to infer from that notice from the placing of the word "same" that there is no season for deer in Kerry!
    P.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭pedroeibar


    touchyie wrote: »
    i read somewhere that the recommened way for cooking snipe is not to gut them, just pluck them, fold there head back and skewer them with there own beak, then bang them in the oven..... never tried it myself
    have had a half dozen pan fried breasts and some pepper sauce with fried spuds..... mmmmmmmm think i'll go shooting:D

    That is the Victorian way of doing it. Not very pleasant. The French pluck them (and woodcock) and roast them, spreading the trail on a slice of toast on which the cooked bird sits. Worse.

    I usually skin and clean them and use them in a game pie with leftover pheasant, pigeon breasts, whatever, etc.
    Use No.9 shot. No.7 is too heavy and pattern is not really dense enough for long shots.
    P.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭stevoman


    touchyie wrote: »
    i read somewhere that the recommened way for cooking snipe is not to gut them, just pluck them, fold there head back and skewer them with there own beak, then bang them in the oven..... never tried it myself
    have had a half dozen pan fried breasts and some pepper sauce with fried spuds..... mmmmmmmm think i'll go shooting:D

    cooked this way whenever i dont freeze them. just pluck them and cook them leaving the innnards in them. from experience its perfect and makes no difference to the meat whatsoever as the innards are so small and full of "muck" anyway. you only ever eat the breasts off them anyway as they are so small. i have often checked the innards in them after i have eaten them and they just shrink. try it some time. very traditional!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭touchyie


    stevoman wrote: »
    cooked this way whenever i dont freeze them. just pluck them and cook them leaving the innnards in them. from experience its perfect and makes no difference to the meat whatsoever as the innards are so small and full of "muck" anyway. you only ever eat the breasts off them anyway as they are so small. i have often checked the innards in them after i have eaten them and they just shrink. try it some time. very traditional!


    Will try it tonight or tomorrow just back from a quick shot...... lovely mallard 2 snipe and 1 crow all in 20 mins!!!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭stevoman


    touchyie wrote: »
    Will try it tonight or tomorrow just back from a quick shot...... lovely mallard 2 snipe and 1 crow all in 20 mins!!!:D

    well done. give it a shot and see what you think of them. try this way off cooking the duck.

    pluck it (of course) when you are going to cook it smear butter all over the outside of it and put salt and pepper on the outside aswell. smear butter on the inside of it aswell. cut up a cooking apple and put it in the inside of the duck.

    here the important part - preheat oven to 190 and then put the duck on a baking tray in it for exactly 1 hour and no more!!!! might not seem long but it cooks so hot and fast that the meat is perfectly tender when you take it out.! use the juices that flow onto the tray and put them into your gravy and make sure to eat the skin!

    have the snipe as a side. pluck and leave in innards. wrap a rasher around the snipe (optional) and cook at the same heat for 20 minutes.

    let me know what it tastes like. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭EastTyrone


    if you dont have a dog are they easy to retrieve yourself?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,107 ✭✭✭flanum


    Apologies re the date.. anyways i wouldnt be headin out ill nov or so anyways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 977 ✭✭✭mallards


    EastTyrone wrote: »
    if you dont have a dog are they easy to retrieve yourself?

    I have a few friends who just walk up their snipe. They say the trick is when one get up, shoot it and don't take your eyes of where it lands. If the vegatation is a little tall then drop your hat where you took the shot then look for your bird. Don't be tempted to take another flushing bird until you get that one. If its a woundy they have a habit of diving right down into the bottom of rushes etc and unless you have it well marked you won't find it without a dog. Even then they are difficult.

    Mallards


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭EastTyrone


    mallards wrote: »
    I have a few friends who just walk up their snipe. They say the trick is when one get up, shoot it and don't take your eyes of where it lands. If the vegatation is a little tall then drop your hat where you took the shot then look for your bird. Don't be tempted to take another flushing bird until you get that one. If its a woundy they have a habit of diving right down into the bottom of rushes etc and unless you have it well marked you won't find it without a dog. Even then they are difficult.

    Mallards
    thanks mallards, I have a dvd rough shooting and wildfowling in ireland and they flush and retrieve without a dog and they did it ok, might try this later on in the year as ive flushed snipe inh areas alst year and ive bene told migratory birds return to the same place every year, would migratory snipe come in with the frost like woodcock do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 977 ✭✭✭mallards


    On my ground at least, I found a heavy frost to drive them on elsewhere. Maybe their beak isn't as strong as a woodcock. Then again woodcock can feed under bushes and little strips of forest where the ground isn't frozen. I've only seen snipe on more open ground and if this freezes over they are gone to find the shores of open water.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭stevoman


    mallards wrote: »
    Went out for an hour on Saturday and only rose one. But it won't be too long before they are here in numbers!

    IMG_0477.jpg

    IMG_0476-1.jpg

    and last day of last season.

    IMG_0265-1.jpg


    Mallards

    mallards what type of game bag is that you have if you dont mind my asking?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 977 ✭✭✭mallards


    I got in Barcelona three years ago in October I think in a place called El corte ingles its' like a cheap Brown Thomas. The missus loved walking round shopping for clothes while I died and went to heaven in their hunting department! If I remember correctly it was only 40 euro. They had a load of stuff. I got a friend who went last year to pick me another one up which I gave as a gift to someone. It's marked C32 on the front and is made of thick leather.

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    Mallards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭stevoman


    mallards wrote: »
    I got in Barcelona three years ago in October I think in a place called El corte ingles its' like a cheap Brown Thomas. The missus loved walking round shopping for clothes while I died and went to heaven in their hunting department! If I remember correctly it was only 40 euro. They had a load of stuff. I got a friend who went last year to pick me another one up which I gave as a gift to someone. It's marked C32 on the front and is made of thick leather.



    Mallards
    its a fantastic gamebag. im in the market for one myself this year. its is big? i never usually hunted with a game bag but they seem to be a good idea. how do you find hunting with one, are they awkward for say getting though cover and over fences or are the better suited for open ground hunting.

    there is nothing as bag though as carrying a pheasent or stuffing snipe into your pocket. i usually bring a piece of twine but that gets unfortable also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 977 ✭✭✭mallards


    It not too big. I got three cock pheasants in it last year, a partridge in the net on the front and two snipe hung from the strap attached under the net. That was a great day now thinking back on it! I wear it on the opposite side that I shoot from so it doesn't interrupt mounting the gun. Because the flap at the front covers the net I don't have a problem with it snagging. Whatever they treated the leather with is very good as its been ringing wet at times and never rotted. I would agree with you about it being a good bag as I haven't seen one better.


    Mallards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭EPointer=Birdss


    Has the shop where you got it a website Mallards?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭stevoman


    i tried the link. they dont seem to have them in the online store. :mad: damn. would have purchased one of those.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭EPointer=Birdss


    mallards wrote: »
    It not too big. I got three cock pheasants in it last year, a partridge in the net on the front and two snipe hung from the strap attached under the net. That was a great day now thinking back on it!


    Mallards

    Story worth tellin me thinks....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 977 ✭✭✭mallards


    No there on line store isnt great, but trust me they have a lot more in the actual store. Im afraid, like I had to do, you will need a kind friend to pick one up when they are over there on holidays these next few months. I think they are a chain and are all over Spain.
    Stevoman I will but Im for the ducks at dawn tomorrow and I need my beauty sleep!:rolleyes:


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