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whats a good hand sample size for cash games?

  • 09-09-2009 8:46pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,486 ✭✭✭


    am nearly ashamed to post this graph as it shows one ginormous swing from just a $50 deposit in heads up SnGs (guess who ignored basic bankroll management and went chasing their losses :o ) though I have worked it back up to a decent profit again.

    question is simple what is a decent hand sample size to show your winning / losing player of the long term the graph below is over 10k hands and thats prob no where near a decent sample I'd suspect.

    now I wanna migrate to cash and wanna know what a decent sample size would be


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭tipp86


    No 10 k is nothing although its probably enough to spot leaks in your game.

    I remember someone here writing that they beat 100nl by 20bbs ove 100k hands then just broke even for the next 100 k hands. That says it all really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭pok3rplaya


    wtf you were up $42k at one point?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭RoadSweeper


    wow, you're a true degen. WP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,286 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    150419_lg.jpg


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,486 ✭✭✭miju


    pok3rplaya wrote: »
    wtf you were up $42k at one point?

    yes literally playing heads up SnG's so each game I won I doubled my BR which was great while I was SUPER hot and literally could not lose. Not so great when I got raped when I got cocky and tilted like **** and chasing my losses and didnt drop back down levels and lost 40 $1000 SnG heads up in a row :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

    Felt sick at the time when I went under but learned ALOT (cant stress alot enough :p ) from it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,951 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    how many did you win to get to 42k in the first place - less than 100 games? wow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 857 ✭✭✭thedini


    miju wrote: »
    yes literally playing heads up SnG's so each game I won I doubled my BR which was great while I was SUPER hot and literally could not lose. Not so great when I got raped when I got cocky and tilted like **** and chasing my losses and didnt drop back down levels and lost 40 $1000 SnG heads up in a row :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

    Felt sick at the time when I went under but learned ALOT (cant stress alot enough :p ) from it.
    good rakeback though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    graph is reminisence of broke back mountain


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    ugh seriously, you can't edit the graph out with all the replies about it still here. It's torture.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,486 ✭✭✭miju


    ugh seriously, you can't edit the graph out with all the replies about it still here. It's torture.

    I knew I shouldnt have posted it in the first place :mad: Just imagine a sheer faced cliff and you have it.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    dude, show us the graph, ul, but you have a cool graph to show for it. :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,486 ✭✭✭miju


    no sorry I'm not putting it back up it's plain embarassing TBH


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭RoadSweeper


    OP, There isnt much need for embarrassment. You basically didnt exercise bankroll management and ran **** hot to build up 42k. Its happened before and it will happen again. Countless people here have done the same. Maybe not to such a degree, but they prob didnt run as hot as you to start.

    The only thing you did wrong was not quit or withdraw before you lost it. :)

    Chalk it up to experience and use it to make sure you use bank roll management in the future.

    Also, 10k isnt a large sample.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭rag2gar


    What is a reasonable/large sample for cash game analysis roadsweeper? 50k hands?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,951 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    is 10K not a large sample for sit n goes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭pok3rplaya


    @ rag

    for winrate analysis? 500k maybe, I'd rather a mil


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 376 ✭✭The Tourist


    Sample size also depends on your winrate.
    Your winrate will have a confidence interval around it.
    Eg "I am 95% certain that my winrate is X BB +/- YBB".
    As your sample size increases the size of Y decreases and we can have more confidence about our winrate.


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