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recommend me a vocal processor/pitch corrector

  • 08-09-2009 11:15am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭


    Its for live work, 3 piece, 1 aint great singer but wants to do more vocal work so asked me if theres a decent pitch corrector out there

    reading online, this seems like the preferred slice of pie.

    http://www.antarestech.com/products/avp.shtml

    thoughts? Preferably rack mounted. If the antares is the one to go for, is there a local dealer, cant seem to find anywhere outside of states that sell it, as far as I can see thon and a few other places do the s/w plugins but not the hardware.

    And yes, Ive seen the youtube clips with cher and billy joel.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,892 ✭✭✭madtheory


    Have you tried singing lessons? That's important, not just for pitch, but for stamina. You might need to learn the right breathing techniques so that you don't damage your voice, and so you can do a tour without losing your voice.

    Technology is cool like, but sometimes the old way is better! Try to find someone who can do classical and pop- there are a lot of techniques from classical that will make your vocal chords "fitter".

    Ask this question- if you wanted to run competitively, would you ask someone to recommend good steroids, or would you find a good coach? Same thing :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭clint_silver


    you're preaching to the converted here and I already said that to him.

    The lads not the worst singer in the singer in the world and has been in bands years but he's starting a new gig very soon where the vox need to be better sooner rather then later.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 282 ✭✭Quiggers


    unless he's doing t-pain covers then this is the wrong way to approach
    things, if your pitching is way off any auto tuning will be very obviouse and whats mor eit might shift you to the wrong note.
    get him to try this plug in
    http://www.gvst.co.uk/gsnap.htm
    If you can hear the processing then he's more than a few cents out
    and no amount of technology will cure that,
    you can send midi to auto-tuners but its difficult to do live
    and harmonizer effects will only exagerate any wrong notes.
    On the other side of the coin is that if he's singing close enought that Gsnap doesn't make him sound like cher then his singing is probably close enought for live gigging, drunk punters dont tend to have pitch perfect hearing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,892 ✭✭✭madtheory


    The auto tune box is the only game in town then. It's good, but not miraculous.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭Dragan


    Why not just have him stick to his strengths. If he wants to sing more, he needs to appreciate that he can only do so much, if his voice is limited. That said, some clever planned harmonies and seconds might just do the trick.

    If it's an ego thing, tell him to chill on it...the **** thing i always found about bands is that all the members want to shine on every tune. Thats not always whats best for the sound though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36 shira


    Perhaps you would like to try vocal coaching. I could get your pitch up to scratch in about 6 to 8 weeks if you do what I show you and practise at home.

    www.shiramisha.com
    www.myspace.com/shirasongstress

    Pm me if you are interested.over the longterm it will be worth it and will make recording much easier for you


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭i57dwun4yb1pt8


    FINALLY !

    A VOCAL COACH IN TOWN WHO ACTUALLY EXISTS !

    PM sent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭PaulBrewer


    Its for live work, 3 piece, 1 aint great singer but wants to do more vocal work so asked me if theres a decent pitch corrector out there

    reading online, this seems like the preferred slice of pie.

    http://www.antarestech.com/products/avp.shtml

    thoughts? Preferably rack mounted. If the antares is the one to go for, is there a local dealer, cant seem to find anywhere outside of states that sell it, as far as I can see thon and a few other places do the s/w plugins but not the hardware.

    And yes, Ive seen the youtube clips with cher and billy joel.

    Despite all the 'helpful' advise above I'll try and answer your question.

    The TC stuff has a good rep as has the Antares. It could be tough making it work though - if you're using wedges and playing smaller gigs I don't know how comfortable a 'live' feed to the wedge would be with a tuned one to FOH, and I'd imagine a tuned one in both would be a proper headphuck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭Pa the Blah


    I've used the TC Intonator with a few live acts, it worked very well but you have to be cautious if your using it as a correctional tool rather than an a pitching fx unit.
    you could have a sequencer playing the guide note for pitch tracking or a keyboard player, but if the playing is off results will be comically shyte!
    in order for it to work well certain conditions need to met, and your live environment is gonna effect this drastically.
    this is what worked for me, I had the luxury of larger stages say minimum cap of 1200, so on the songs I needed the correction I ran a dead stage with NO sound at all on the monitors or amps or whatever, the band ran on iem I also inserted a denoiser to get rid of the back ground noise of the audience etc. the smaller the place the harder it is to achieve a trouble free performance. gl


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭PaulBrewer


    the smaller the place the harder it is to achieve a trouble free performance. gl

    Thought that might be the case ok.


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