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HMV Cartoon lunchbox

  • 07-09-2009 5:14pm
    #1
    TheIrishGrover
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    Just got a DVD pack in HMV. A lunchbox with 10 DVDs of cartoons. It's being pushed as a nice little package for kids (Lunchbox and all) yet it's got the complete Max Fleischer Superman series (Fantastic animation. Batman TAS is a total homage it the style), 8 early Betty Boop (4 Pre-Hays Act). Popeye (Fleischer's versions including Ali Baba with the animation over 3D set in the cave), Felix, Casper, some Pre and mid war Warner Bros shorts. These are classic cartoons for those interested (Esp the Superman cartoons. Amazing) however I just found it interesting that it was pushed as a kids package. Some of these cartoons are pretty suggestive and dodgy racially. As a document of the time they are very interesting but surely not for the kids.


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  • #2
    Black Lead
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    From what i can recall allot of animation shorts such as Disney, Warner Brothers and Fleischer Studios from late 20s to the early 50s were made for an adult audience, It was only in the late 50s with TV that they were broadcasted to a childrens audience in the "Saturday Morning Cartoon" bracket.

    Disney put out allot of its older shorts for the collectors market with warnings and explanations that the shorts were "of the time". Warner tends to forget and to refuse to release its controversial stuff like Coal Black the Negro Snow White.

    The Flintstones was also an adult show much like Simpsons and South Park, The problem is allot of people see a cartoon and think its for children when it isn't.


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    TheIrishGrover
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    Black Lead wrote: »
    From what i can recall allot of animation shorts such as Disney, Warner Brothers and Fleischer Studios from late 20s to the early 50s were made for an adult audience, It was only in the late 50s with TV that they were broadcasted to a childrens audience in the "Saturday Morning Cartoon" bracket.

    Disney put out allot of its older shorts for the collectors market with warnings and explanations that the shorts were "of the time". Warner tends to forget and to refuse to release its controversial stuff like Coal Black the Negro Snow White.

    The Flintstones was also an adult show much like Simpsons and South Park, The problem is allot of people see a cartoon and think its for children when it isn't.

    That's very true. It is a pity to see these cartoons gone. I know they are offensive but they are a part of animation history. Should we ban Birth Of A Nation again? Or Gone With The Wind? Or Triumph Of The Will? Alright, it is hard to justify that Coal Black short (My God) but all the Daffy Duck and Bugs Bunny WWII shorts that they are also reluctant to release? Of course they were ofensive, esp to the Japanese but these shorts can't be taken out of context: They were propoganda about an enemy they were fighting and trying to get and maintain the general public behind their troops. Put every kind of warning all over them and alert people to the fact that these should not be viewed by kids (I'm against censorship but do believe in ratings and informing people as to what they are about to watch).

    It really is a pity that animation has become, in general, concidered "Y'know, for the kids" Especially when you see Fleischer's pioneering rotoscope work on Superman. Wonderful movement. I know people can think of rotoscoping as cheating, but to see early, hand traced fluid movements going back before Snow White...... Very interesting. (These newer "animated" movies like A Scanner Darkly and Waltz With Bashir I do not concider them animation just stylistically tweaked live action movie)


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