Off-Licenses selling Multpacks with no Discount

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Thieving pack of bastards :mad: I was just in an off-license to get some juice

They're selling multipack bottles and cans individually with no discount!

What's even worse is that they're selling multipacks and instead of pricing the pack they scan 1 item and multiply it by whatever the pack contains.. eg. a pack of 8 cans of Bulmers costs 19.60 and one single can is 2.45

Totally illegal!

Did anyone encounter this anywhere else?

It's not on, esp in these recessionary times

Biggins

Let trading standards or its equivalent know if you think it's breaking a consumer law.

Sounds dodgy enough.

wudangclan

My name is URL wrote: »

I was just in an off-license to get some juice

course you were. the old i was just getting some juice excuse.;)

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My name is URL wrote: »

Thieving pack of bastards :mad: I was just in an off-license to get some juice

They're selling multipack bottles and cans individually with no discount!

What's even worse is that they're selling multipacks and instead of pricing the pack they scan 1 item and multiply it by whatever the pack contains.. eg. a pack of 8 cans of Bulmers costs 19.60 and one single can is 2.45

Totally illegal!

Did anyone encounter this anywhere else?

It's not on, esp in these recessionary times

No,no its not

My name is URL

Biggins wrote: »

Let trading standards or its equivalent know if you think it's breaking a consumer law.

Sounds dodgy enough.

I certainly will report them.

I asked the assistant are they allowed to sell them like that and she grinned and said she didn't know. Even when I pointed out that it says on the bottles "Not to be sold separately" she was like oh, I dunno

Not bad enough with the high prices of things already, they think they can get away with blatantly ripping people off illegally, cnuts!

jackncoke wrote: »

No,no its not

Do explain.. I'm pretty sure it is illegal

BaconZombie

I have the monkey behind the till try and do this a few time in different places.
If I see then do it I normal say WTF and get then to scan the barcode on the multi-pack.

FlutterinBantam

If anyone is stupid enough to spend the guts of a score on 8 cans of Bulmers, they deserve to be ripped off.

Biggins

Sounds like one off licence that deserves to be out of business!

ArseBurger

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Totally illegal!

You sure about that?

Fact, not opinion.

HalloweenJack

It may say "not to be sold individually" but that doesn't necessarily mean the price for has to be lowered.

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Its a RRP,that is all.

An off licence can charge whatever it wants for its products,same as any shop.
My advice?Go elsewhere

Biggins

One question; where the multi-pack was stocked, was there a price displayed there for it anywhere?

My name is URL

When they buy those multipacks they pay lower tax than if they were buying them separately, so if they sell them separately it's pretty much tax evasion is it not?

Biggins wrote: »

One question; where the multi-pack was stocked, was there a price displayed there for it anywhere?

No price was displayed for the pack, but there was a price on the separate cans. They didn't scan the box either, they scanned a can and multiplied it by 8

Our man in Havana

Agreed! Cavet emptor!

FearDark

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When they buy those multipacks they pay lower tax than if they were buying them separately, so if they sell them separately it's pretty much tax evasion is it not?



No price was displayed for the pack, but there was a price on the separate cans. They didn't scan the box either, they scanned a can and multiplied it by 8

Dude this is Ireland, if you dont see a price just dont risk it.

GLaDOS

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No price was displayed for the pack, but there was a price on the separate cans. They didn't scan the box either, they scanned a can and multiplied it by 8

You assumed there was a discount for multipack, that's your mistake

Overheal

I went to the Flea Market today, and found the retro games counter - they were selling Sonic for the megadrive! UNBELIEVABLE :mad: it says right on the cartridge: NOT FOR RESALE

Anyway I called the cops, anonymously. Because god knows that was a waste of taxpayer money.

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Let me get this straight.

1.Person goes to off licence
2.Picks up 8 pack of Bulmers with no price on it
3.Shop assistant scans the can and then multiplies by 8

There is no issue here,,,

My name is URL

ScienceNerd wrote: »

You assumed there was a discount for multipack, that's your mistake

Well sure, my mistake for going into the shop in the first place.

That doesn't mean that they're in the right though

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My name is URL wrote: »

That doesn't mean that they're in the right though

I think it does

wudangclan

it's a clear breaking of the 'ronseal imperative' ,not doing what it says on the tin.










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Biggins

My name is URL wrote: »

...No price was displayed for the pack, but there was a price on the separate cans. They didn't scan the box either, they scanned a can and multiplied it by 8

FearDark wrote: »

Dude this is Ireland, if you dont see a price just dont risk it.

If no price was displayed, that is where there is a problem for them.
There has to be a price displayed, thats EU consumer law if my brain serves me right.

Have to agree with Darkfear, if there is no price, you should be asking for confirmation of the prices orally.

dr.bollocko

jackncoke wrote: »

I think it does

They're not in the right if they're selling bewze over the RRP. They're short sighted twats. I'm pretty sure mr. URL won't go there again. I avoid any offie that tries to rip me off. Same with bars. There is plenty of competition in the market and if you want to rip people off then GTFO. Yeah they can sell it at whatever price they want. It just empowers us as consumers to not go back there.

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dr.bollocko wrote: »

They're not in the right if they're selling bewze over the RRP. They're short sighted twats. I'm pretty sure mr. URL won't go there again. I avoid any offie that tries to rip me off. Same with bars. There is plenty of competition in the market and if you want to rip people off then GTFO. Yeah they can sell it at whatever price they want. It just empowers us as consumers to not go back there.

They werent selling over the RRP tho,

Shelflife

Its not illegal but the suppliers frown on it, there are no tax evasion implications , if they buy it cheaper and sell at the same price then they will actually make more money and pay more tax.

what about the customers who open the multi packs because they want 8 and the mutipacks are 6s. should we line them up and shoot them too??

GLaDOS

Biggins wrote: »

If no price was displayed, that is where there is a problem for them.
There has to be a price displayed, thats EU consumer law if my brain serves me right.

Have to agree with Darkfear, if there is no price, you should be asking for confirmation of the prices orally.

There was a price per can displayed. Display price x 8 = price for 8 cans

Gummy Panda

Its not illegal and never has.

The multipack is a distributor/producer decision. The shop doesn't have to sell them as a multipack but it could hurt their relationship with the producer.

They can sell each can for €10 if they want. I don't understand the tax issue as taxman is more concerned with them collecting the 21.5% from the customer as everything beforehand has been business to business sales.

MmmmmCheese

Hmm i've bought packs of taytoes from my local shop before and later realised that they were 'part of a multipack, must not be sold seperately'.
Seems kinda dodge to me.

Dunno why you'd want to drink Bulmers though, its piss.

Kipperhell

Not illegal in any way as said it is just a distribution thing. It is profit mongering

Biggins

ScienceNerd wrote: »

There was a price per can displayed. Display price x 8 = price for 8 cans

If so, the directional point of complaint is back to the supplier to the shop and/or to the manufacturer. The cans after all were just in packaging to be honest.

Gummy Panda wrote: »

...The multipack is a distributor/producer decision. The shop doesn't have to sell them as a multipack but it could hurt their relationship with the producer.

I agree. Its a bit of a grey area.

My name is URL

They're selling 2 items

• individual cans
• 8 pack of cans

if they're going to sell the multipacks as individual cans should they not be removed from the box first? They should have scanned the box they were selling, not what it contains

Biggins

My name is URL wrote: »

...If they're going to sell the multipacks as individual cans should they not be removed from the box first? They should have scanned the box they were selling, not what it contains

True, perhaps laziness on their part.

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Biggins wrote: »

True, perhaps laziness on their part.

If I was buying 8 cans I'd much rather be able to pick up a 8 pack then pick up 8 loose cans tbh


I really dont seem the issue here, It's just a misinformed rant

My name is URL

jackncoke wrote: »

If I was buying 8 cans I'd much rather be able to pick up a 8 pack then pick up 8 loose cans tbh


I really dont seem the issue here, It's just a misinformed rant

Maybe you have no problem been ripped off, I do though, and it's hardly misinformed to know when you were ripped off.

Are you a shopkeeper by any chance?

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My name is URL wrote: »

Maybe you have no problem been ripped off, I do though, and it's hardly misinformed to know when you were ripped off.

Are you a shopkeeper by any chance?

I don't get ripped off,I shop around and know exactly what price I will pay for my beer when I go to the till.
I have about 4 different places I go to depending on what beer/wine/spirts Im buying.

And no,Im not shopkeeper but I did manage a off-licence once upon a time

Gummy Panda

Are the bulmers multipacks actually cheaper?

I've bought bottles in their six pack container and have been individually charged. The only multipacks that are cheaper then sold seperate are the likes of coke and crisps (though i think the crisps bags are different weights).

JONJO THE MISER

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Thieving pack of bastards :mad: I was just in an off-license to get some juice

They're selling multipack bottles and cans individually with no discount!

What's even worse is that they're selling multipacks and instead of pricing the pack they scan 1 item and multiply it by whatever the pack contains.. eg. a pack of 8 cans of Bulmers costs 19.60 and one single can is 2.45

Totally illegal!

Did anyone encounter this anywhere else?

It's not on, esp in these recessionary times

:mad:Grrrrrr nothing makes JONJO more mad that when he sees these ripoffs.

My name is URL

jackncoke wrote: »

I don't get ripped off,I shop around and know exactly what price I will pay for my beer when I go to the till.
I have about 4 different places I go to depending on what beer/wine/spirts Im buying.

And no,Im not shopkeeper but I did manage a off-licence once upon a time

Well fair enough. I was only passing through the village and went in, so I wasn't aware of their thievery

Even if it is legal, it doesn't mean it's acceptable behavior. It just shows the kind of greedy scumbags that are running places like that

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Are the bulmers multipacks actually cheaper?

I've bought bottles in their six pack container and have been individually charged. The only multipacks that are cheaper then sold seperate are the likes of coke and crisps (though i think the crisps bags are different weights).

They usually are cheaper when bought in packs, well whenever I've bought them they have been.

There's also a 10 pack of Budweiser available which has the price printed on the box. I wonder if shops would be so quick to overcharge for those!

daniel91

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eg. a pack of 8 cans of Bulmers costs 19.60 and one single can is 2.45

Jesus that angers me so much! Rip-off Ireland-makes my blood boil!
Do they not know that the celtic tigers long gone!

Biggins

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

:mad:Grrrrrr nothing makes JONJO more mad that when he sees these ripoffs.

Same here. It wouldn't be the first time that I've downed items and refused to pay prices I feel are a rip-off (I can be a stubborn old sod when I want to be).
If we all did it a lot more than just meekly accept such things and/or afraid to speak up, such rip-off merchants would get the message a lot quicker.
Sadly, some give in and over pay at the till.

Gummy Panda

My name is URL wrote: »

They usually are cheaper when bought in packs, well whenever I've bought them they have been.

There's also a 10 pack of Budweiser available which has the price printed on the box. I wonder if shops would be so quick to overcharge for those!

Ah!

I wouldn't buy from them tbh.

Capt'n Midnight

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Thieving pack of bastards :mad: I was just in an off-license to get some juice
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eg. a pack of 8 cans of Bulmers costs 19.60 and one single can is 2.45

Perlenbacher Beer 6x500ml 4.9% bottles €4.99 in lidl until 6/9/09

8 cans of Bulmers or 12 litres of pilsner ?

R.D. aka MR.D

Any chance it was the shop assistants first day and thought this is how it was done?

994

Not only that, I witnessed a person of the feminine persuasion purchasing a Yorkie that was clearly marked "Not for girls".

Capt'n Midnight

994 wrote: »

Not only that, I witnessed a person of the feminine persuasion purchasing a Yorkie that was clearly marked "Not for girls".

As she wasn't buying it for herself :eek:

Jumpy

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

:mad:Grrrrrr nothing makes JONJO more mad that when he sees these ripoffs.

Except for maybe the english.

squod

My name is URL wrote: »

Thieving pack of bastards :mad: I was just in an off-license to get some juice

They're selling multipack bottles and cans individually with no discount!

What's even worse is that they're selling multipacks and instead of pricing the pack they scan 1 item and multiply it by whatever the pack contains.. eg. a pack of 8 cans of Bulmers costs 19.60 and one single can is 2.45

Totally illegal!

Did anyone encounter this anywhere else?

It's not on, esp in these recessionary times

Get yourself down to Adil for some cut-price swig.

rex-x

Ok I happen to work in a overpriced offie myself. Its overpriced on purpose because the vast majority of people are lazy and wont go up the town to get it cheaper. you get an odd walkout but not enough people vote with their feet to make us reduce the price, there you heard it straight from the horses mouth!

with regards the bulmers, they come to us in 8 packs and we open some for single cans and leave others closed for peoples convenience, why should I sell them cheaper because you buy 8? You dont get money off for buying 8 bags of spuds? or 8 pints in a pub? how is it different?
Even if the box says 10 euro on it, it can be sold for 20 and there is nothing illegal as the price is an invitation to sale only

Helix

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I certainly will report them.

I asked the assistant are they allowed to sell them like that and she grinned and said she didn't know. Even when I pointed out that it says on the bottles "Not to be sold separately" she was like oh, I dunno

Not bad enough with the high prices of things already, they think they can get away with blatantly ripping people off illegally, cnuts!



Do explain.. I'm pretty sure it is illegal

did you complete the transaction?

coz like, if you did, your argument is a bit ridiculous

ArseBurger

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Maybe you have no problem been ripped off, I do though, and it's hardly misinformed to know when you were ripped off.

How do you know you were actually ripped off?

Can you say with 100% certainty that the cost of the multipack to the shop keeper was lower than the individual cans? Just because the RRP of the multipack has the individual cans as cheaper from your perspective - doesn't mean they are. They multipacks could have a different margin compared to the individual cans. Pretty much every line in retail has an individual margin and therefore similar products - even same products from the same supplier - cannot always be compared on a direct basis.

I think you're making a few big assumptions. This is apparent with your comment on tax also.

Tax (i.e VAT) is paid by the retailer on the sold item price. They do not pay VAT themselves and source their goods on a VAT exempt basis.
Similarly, the pay their income tax on their profit - which again comes after the sale.

Biggins

rex-x wrote: »

Ok I happen to work in a overpriced offie myself. Its overpriced on purpose because the vast majority of people are lazy and wont go up the town to get it cheaper. you get an odd walkout but not enough people vote with their feet to make us reduce the price, there you heard it straight from the horses mouth!

with regards the bulmers, they come to us in 8 packs and we open some for single cans and leave others closed for peoples convenience, why should I sell them cheaper because you buy 8? You dont get money off for buying 8 bags of spuds? or 8 pints in a pub? how is it different?
Even if the box says 10 euro on it, it can be sold for 20 and there is nothing illegal as the price is an invitation to sale only

Moral of the tale is that ye all should be doing a lot more walking out and refusing to pay rip-off prices.
Will ye? The answer is "No" and thats usually down to locations to alternative suppliers, sales pressure and/or complacency.