Enlighten me.

TrustNoOne

What is the purpose of our existence? The current situation in the world we live is that it's not entirely a pleasent place to live. We have famine, war, poverty, slavery, death, rising tides, disasters and greed. On the other hand we have great individual wealth, greed and exploitation of others. Such disparity in the quality of life for the people of this planet. People who believe they are acting morally, but in fact are doing so at the detriment of others. The world has become overcrowded with automatons, going about their daily existances without stopping to question what purpose they actually serve.

I believe when the religions have served its own purpose and faded away, only then may humanity realise that working together as one global community, can we protect our own survival. The purpose of religion and it's various denominations, I believe is to show us how cruel and destructive we can be to one another. Once we realise that our own survival hangs in the balance, only then will achieve 'heaven' on earth. And by heaven, I mean to cease continuing down the path to inevitable self-destruction that we are on.

If our purpose is not to survive and progress, then I ask what is the point of continuing to live? If we are merely on this earth to serve and please a God, then why not cease to procreate and live out your natural life as a good Christian, or whatever, and be accepted into heaven? Why is it not considered selfish for people to believe that they are entitled to a life other than the one they have now? After all, if a person believes they have done, or is doing what it takes to get into heaven in this life, then they have done nothing at all. All they have done is bought their ticket to eternal paradise. And what happens then? Do they lounge around all day on their soft fluffy clouds without a care in the world? No, true sacrifice, the very meaning of the word means to give without recieving immediately of any time in the future. Is it so inconcievible to do good without the hope or desire for your good work to be noticed and awarded with eternal happiness? And does it take the fear of hell to stop us from killing eachother?

I ask what kind of a God would impose a set of rules upon his subjects and create a world so tempting that it is inevitable that the masses would fail? Would it not be more 'entertaining' to wait for humanity to realise that in order to survive, it must discover the morals to do so within itself, out of neccessity. Rather than it be driven into us by fear without experiencing the consequences of lacking such morality.

If Gods word was originally intended to forewarn us of the consequences of our actions, then I fear it has fallen on deaf ears. Only through the imminent and all but complete annihilation of humanity can we start again.

chozometroid

TrustNoOne wrote: »

What is the purpose of our existence? The current situation in the world we live is that it's not entirely a pleasent place to live. We have famine, war, poverty, slavery, death, rising tides, disasters and greed. On the other hand we have great individual wealth, greed and exploitation of others. Such disparity in the quality of life for the people of this planet. People who believe they are acting morally, but in fact are doing so at the detriment of others. The world has become overcrowded with automatons, going about their daily existances without stopping to question what purpose they actually serve.

I believe when the religions have served its own purpose and faded away, only then may humanity realise that working together as one global community, can we protect our own survival. The purpose of religion and it's various denominations, I believe is to show us how cruel and destructive we can be to one another. Once we realise that our own survival hangs in the balance, only then will achieve 'heaven' on earth. And by heaven, I mean to cease continuing down the path to inevitable self-destruction that we are on.

If our purpose is not to survive and progress, then I ask what is the point of continuing to live? If we are merely on this earth to serve and please a God, then why not cease to procreate and live out your natural life as a good Christian, or whatever, and be accepted into heaven? Why is it not considered selfish for people to believe that they are entitled to a life other than the one they have now? After all, if a person believes they have done, or is doing what it takes to get into heaven in this life, then they have done nothing at all. All they have done is bought their ticket to eternal paradise. And what happens then? Do they lounge around all day on their soft fluffy clouds without a care in the world? No, true sacrifice, the very meaning of the word means to give without recieving immediately of any time in the future. Is it so inconcievible to do good without the hope or desire for your good work to be noticed and awarded with eternal happiness? And does it take the fear of hell to stop us from killing eachother?

I ask what kind of a God would impose a set of rules upon his subjects and create a world so tempting that it is inevitable that the masses would fail? Would it not be more 'entertaining' to wait for humanity to realise that in order to survive, it must discover the morals to do so within itself, out of neccessity. Rather than it be driven into us by fear without experiencing the consequences of lacking such morality.

If Gods word was originally intended to forewarn us of the consequences of our actions, then I fear it has fallen on deaf ears. Only through the imminent and all but complete annihilation of humanity can we start again.

Since you are asking this in a Christian forum, I don't think you'll get any agreement.

Sin is a side effect of free will and rejection of God's perfect command, so of course things appear horrible.

God's desire for us to choose to love Him by our own free will is worth the cost. His choice. We were created to have a relationship with Him. The whole story of Lucifer's fall and God's choice not to destroy him, and let things run their course is for Him to show that He does not force His creation to serve Him. He did not kill Lucifer on the spot, because the other angels would see Lucifer's point (that he probably made) about God not being worthy of worship. You can't have your cake and eat it too. This creation is in a sad state, but there's no other way to make the whole thing play out to it's grand finale, where all of creation will see that God has been fair, and has reconciled His creation to Himself, by His love and mercy. All will see that Satan was wrong, and he will deserve his destruction. All will see that Jesus loved us enough to allow us to have a chance to be with Him, even though we were not capable of doing it on our own.

God's big plan is to create a beautiful relationship with His creation, where all have chosen freely to serve Him and show Him the respect He deserves as the Creator of all things.

So, you are right in that we will start again. A new body, a new world, no demonic influence, and direct commune with our Holy God.


...that was typed kinda quickly and may appear kinda disconnected, but those are my thoughts for now.....

PDN

OP, decide which forum you want to post in. Posting the same threads in more than one forum is considered spamming and is not a good idea if you enjoy being part of boards.ie