F*CK the lisbon treaty

NilByMouth

Am I the only one who doesnt give a **** if its a yes or a no??

Gummy Panda

Yes.

Boards.ie supports a Yes vote so Dev can pay Cult €1.83 per hour.

Take that Cult!!

Jonathan

Yes.

dan719

NilByMouth wrote: »

Am I the only one who doesnt give a **** if its a yes or a no??

Yes, or no? I don't care.

No you are not the first person to dispplay apathy towards politics. However you are probably the first among your friends to do so. Now go convince your girlfriend to let you touch her boobs. The internet is no place for young lads like yourself.

My name is URL

You'd all fail at the Yes/No Game Show

jimmycrackcorm

NilByMouth wrote: »

Am I the only one who doesnt give a **** if its a yes or a no??

I see your four asterix and raise you another two

dan719

My name is URL wrote: »

You'd all fail at the Yes/No Game Show

No I wouldn't.

****.

Bringthethunder

This treaty is the most important treaty since the montreal protocol.

NatKingColeslaw

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Yes.

Boards.ie supports a Yes vote so Dev can pay Cult €1.83 per hour.

Take that Cult!!

It is possible you didn't read it.

Were boards to hire a Turkis company that had a Turkish type of Cult to replace the Irish Cult they, the Turkish company can pay 1.83 an hour as it is their average national rate.

Mmcd

Id think you'd find it rather dry if you were to do so!

Gummy Panda

NatKingColeslaw wrote: »

It is possible you didn't read it.

Were boards to hire a Turkis company that had a Turkish type of Cult to replace the Irish Cult they, the Turkish company can pay 1.83 an hour as it is their average national rate.

is it possible i'm taking the piss out of the OP?

tonycascarino

I'd prefer if it was a No.

biko

C'mon vote XXXXXXXXX

Kradock

Seriously people read the fcuking thing and vote Yes . You have been warned.

mink_man

bah

NatKingColeslaw

Gummy Panda wrote: »

is it possible i'm taking the piss out of the OP?

I wish I was.

If Lisbon 2 goes ahead turkeys will not only be for Christmas. They will be around a lot. @ 1.83 an hour.

mink_man

yes!

Dartz

Vote Yes for a United Ireland.

United within a European Superstate.

Epic Tissue

NilByMouth wrote: »

Am I the only one who doesnt give a **** if its a yes or a no??

Seems like you are.

Dartz

NatKingColeslaw wrote: »

I wish I was.

If Lisbon 2 goes ahead turkeys will not only be for Christmas. They will be around a lot. @ 1.83 an hour.

If anybody actually believes those posters about 1.83 and hour and whatever....

THEY'RE A ****ING MORON.

That is all that needs to be said. That is all that should be said.

K-9

NatKingColeslaw wrote: »

It is possible you didn't read it.

Were boards to hire a Turkis company that had a Turkish type of Cult to replace the Irish Cult they, the Turkish company can pay 1.83 an hour as it is their average national rate.

Except that isn't true and Turkey isn't in the EU.

tonycascarino

Dartz wrote: »

If anybody actually believes those posters about 1.83 and hour and whatever....

THEY'RE A ****ING MORON.

That is all that needs to be said. That is all that should be said.

I believe 1.84 was the rates that Gama, a Turkish company, were paying their workers in Ireland in breach of our minimum wage laws. ie. exploitation of workers. This went to the courts and if I remember correctly GAMA were fined for illegal practices. The jist of it is in the link below.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/0517/gama.html

4Sheets

No your not the only one..there is many like you who just give a sh**t where the next meal comes from as long as it comes because its your birth right..yeah f**k those rich europeans with their bloody charity..we did'nt need bail-outs to transform our horse tracks into roads..lets from a union with Iceland instead ..we have so much in common...

ejmaztec

NatKingColeslaw wrote: »

I wish I was.

If Lisbon 2 goes ahead turkeys will not only be for Christmas. They will be around a lot. @ 1.83 an hour.

We'll just have to get bigger ovens and an almighty sh1t-load of sage and onion.

procure11

NilByMouth wrote: »

Am I the only one who doesnt give a **** if its a yes or a no??

While I respect your position,the lisbon treaty is quite very important in the sense that it determines how the EU would be run after the vote (well hopefully if we are not made to vote again in the event of a No vote).

A lot of the laws in which you are being governed by emanates from the EU and if it is passed the EU would even be more intrusive in your day to day life.
If it is a No then they get picture that some folks do not support an unworkable and impractical United states of Europe!!

K-9

tonycascarino wrote: »

I believe 1.84 was the rates that Gama, a Turkish company, were paying their workers in Ireland in breach of our minimum wage laws. ie. exploitation of workers. This went to the courts and if I remember correctly GAMA were fined for illegal practices. The jist of it is in the link below.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/0517/gama.html

Nope, it's the average minimum in the accession countries, well, if you can believe anything COIR say. Obviously, some do though.

COIR just pick prejudices and play on them.

NatKingColeslaw

K-9 wrote: »

Except that isn't true and Turkey isn't in the EU.

yeah... ok....

K-9

procure11 wrote: »

A lot of the laws in which you are being governed by emanates from the EU and if it is passed the EU would even be more intrusive in your day to day life.

Any Examples?

procure11

K-9 wrote: »

Any Examples?

When a non-national EU citizen comes to work( even for as little as 10 hours a week) in Ireland and has 3 or 4 children that are not resident with him/her...under EU rules Ireland has to pay child benefit for those children irrespective of where they live...the economic implications affect the day to day life of a citizen of Ireland...amongst other examples!

Elessar

No, OP you're not alone. I couldn't give a fiddlers about lisbon or brian cowen or the fcuking NAMA or whatever the fcuk. I have an ingrained hatred of politics and the passionate opinions of idiots who follow it. Some of my mates are still in their late teens and are very vocal about politics and how important it is. WTF BLAH BLAH BLAH no it isn't, you are too young why do you give a fcuk?!!

Politics is stupid go play xbox.

K-9

procure11 wrote: »

When a non-national EU citizen comes to work( even for as little as 10 hours a week) in Ireland and has 3 or 4 children that are not resident with him/her...under EU rules Ireland has to pay child benefit for those children irrespective of where they live...the economic implications affect the day to day life of a citizen of Ireland...amongst other examples!

You know this happened between Ireland and the UK for years?

procure11

Elessar wrote: »

No, OP you're not alone. I couldn't give a fiddlers about lisbon or brian cowen or the fcuking NAMA or whatever the fcuk. I have an ingrained hatred of politics and the passionate opinions of idiots who follow it. Some of my mates are still in their late teens and are very vocal about politics and how important it is. WTF BLAH BLAH BLAH no it isn't, you are too young why do you give a fcuk?!!

Politics is stupid go play xbox.

Well..except they would probably be dealing the consequences when they are older.

Xboxes would have had several upgrades by then.

Overheal

Bringthethunder wrote: »

This treaty is the most important treaty since the montreal protocol.

What about the Treaty-Treaty of Nineteen Treaty Three?

sink

Elessar wrote: »

No, OP you're not alone. I couldn't give a fiddlers about lisbon or brian cowen or the fcuking NAMA or whatever the fcuk. I have an ingrained hatred of politics and the passionate opinions of idiots who follow it. Some of my mates are still in their late teens and are very vocal about politics and how important it is. WTF BLAH BLAH BLAH no it isn't, you are too young why do you give a fcuk?!!

Politics is stupid go play xbox.

Ah Bless, the innocence.:rolleyes:

Crann na Beatha

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Overheal

Iolar wrote: »

Humbug?

Hamburglar?

Joey the lips

Kradock wrote: »

Seriously people read the fcuking thing and vote Yes . You have been warned.

Ha Ha! Thats why i will be most def voting no! I have read it and regardless of what many think i will still be voting no!

Perhaps you can enlighten us as to why we should vote yes?

Thomas_S_Hunterson

Vote no for teh lulz

The Muppet

4Sheets wrote: »

No your not the only one..there is many like you who just give a sh**t where the next meal comes from as long as it comes because its your birth right..yeah f**k those rich europeans with their bloody charity..we did'nt need bail-outs to transform our horse tracks into roads..lets from a union with Iceland instead ..we have so much in common...

There's a lot of crap spoken about Lisbon and the effect voting no will have on Ireland. We are not being asked if we want to remain in the EU so quit the scare mongering. The benefits you listed happene without Lisbon , the eu will continue to function as it has whether lisbon gets a yes or no.

We have already voted NO that should have been accepted as the democratic wish of the people. I wouldn't be surprised we we got another no but I suspect the tactics being used will have their desired effect.

I,m not on either side as I am still undecided which way I will vote if at all, I just don't like the mis information being spread by both sides.

My name is URL

Here's a nice Q&A about some of the points included from a non-biased non-Irish POV, for anyone interested

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6901353.stm

Crann na Beatha

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Min

Vote yes for more unelected politicians like the new EU president and EU foreign minister.
We need more politicians that only the politicians can vote for, why do you think they agreed for a commissioner for everyone in the EU audience - strictly one per country.
More commissioners, more unelected politicians, more expenses to claim and you can't vote them out.
It is a dream for any politician, why bother with the people, only have politicians vote for politicians......can always get the taxpayer to find one a job.....

squod

My name is URL wrote: »

Here's a nice Q&A about some of the points included from a non-biased non-Irish POV, for anyone interested

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6901353.stm

I got a booklet through my door. Tuns out all I needed was a business card.
MUPPETS!

• A politician chosen to be president of the European Council for two-and-a-half years, replacing the current system where countries take turns at being president for six months.
• A new post combining the jobs of the existing foreign affairs supremo, Javier Solana, and the external affairs commissioner, Benita Ferrero-Waldner, to give the EU more clout on the world stage.
• A smaller European Commission, with fewer commissioners than there are member states, from 2014.
• A redistribution of voting weights between the member states, phased in between 2014 and 2017 - qualified majority voting based on a "double majority" of 55% of member states, accounting for 65% of the EU's population.
• New powers for the European Commission, European Parliament and European Court of Justice, for example in the field of justice and home affairs.
• Removal of national vetoes in a number of areas.

Crann na Beatha

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Run_to_da_hills

Kradock wrote: »

Seriously people read the fcuking thing and vote Yes . You have been warned.

You have also been warned that if you vote YES you will loose this. :eek:

squod

Iolar wrote: »

Can you provide details?

Uh huh.

http://europa.eu/lisbon_treaty/full_text/index_en.htm

An Fear Aniar

squod wrote: »

Uh huh.

http://europa.eu/lisbon_treaty/full_text/index_en.htm

lol. The full text, lol.:)

.

K-9

squod wrote: »

I got a booklet through my door. Tuns out all I needed was a business card.
MUPPETS!

• A politician chosen to be president of the European Council for two-and-a-half years, replacing the current system where countries take turns at being president for six months.
• A new post combining the jobs of the existing foreign affairs supremo, Javier Solana, and the external affairs commissioner, Benita Ferrero-Waldner, to give the EU more clout on the world stage.
• A smaller European Commission, with fewer commissioners than there are member states, from 2014.
• A redistribution of voting weights between the member states, phased in between 2014 and 2017 - qualified majority voting based on a "double majority" of 55% of member states, accounting for 65% of the EU's population.
• New powers for the European Commission, European Parliament and European Court of Justice, for example in the field of justice and home affairs.
• Removal of national vetoes in a number of areas.

Who was that by?

They'd need to update it.

We keep the Commissioner!

squod

My name is URL wrote: »

Here's a nice Q&A about some of the points included from a non-biased non-Irish POV, for anyone interested

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6901353.stm

This dude.

K-9

squod wrote: »

This dude.

Well, they'd need to update it.

Max Power1

mink_man wrote: »

bah

my sentiments exactly


but I will be voting NO