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Mesa Boogie V Twin preamp as a volume booster

  • 03-09-2009 12:17am
    #1
    KevLeppard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭


    Was playing a gig the other night and was using a BOSS GE 7 as a volume booster. I had all the eq bands set at neutral and the volume switch on max.

    Anyhow, when I needed it for a volume booster on a solo (on distortion) it didnt give me enough volume and I think also muddled up my tone a little bit. When used on a clean sound, it started to distort my sound.

    One of my mates mentioned the Mesa Boogie V Twin pre amp (which I can have the loan of) as an alternative. If I use this would it preserve the tone of my amp (Marshall JCM 2000 DSL Series)?? Would it give me enough balls?? Should I consider switching my head from a DSL to a TSL if the TSL has a solo channel??

    Also, in general why would you need a pre amp pedal?? Sorry for all the questions!!


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  • #2
    Grolschevik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭Grolschevik


    If you're using the GE7 before the amp (ie not in the effects loop) I'd say that maxing the volume on it is simply hitting the preamp valves harder, which might well mush up your tone and also drive your clean tone into distortion.

    Try using it in the effects loop. I don't think you'll need to max the volume for that. Perhaps also boost some of the mid frequencies slightly to let the lead cut through the mix. I believe that Slash used a GE7 like this.

    I use a GE7, but not in the effects loop as I don't really use amp distortion. I do, however, put it after a valve preamp pedal. I hike the middle EQ slider slightly and have the volume slider up about a millimetre. It does the loud/mid boost thing for me like that.

    Having the EQ after your distortion-generating preamp also gives you the option to experiment with different tone shapes: ie, set your amp distortion for a mid-heavy distortion and use the pedal set with a V shape for that modernish metally scoop. Or vice versa. However, I've never used mine like this, so it's mainly supposition.


  • #3
    Paolo_M
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 880 ✭✭✭Paolo_M


    Grolschevik wrote: »
    If you're using the GE7 before the amp (ie not in the effects loop) I'd say that maxing the volume on it is simply hitting the preamp valves harder, which might well mush up your tone and also drive your clean tone into distortion.

    Try using it in the effects loop. I don't think you'll need to max the volume for that. Perhaps also boost some of the mid frequencies slightly to let the lead cut through the mix. I believe that Slash used a GE7 like this.

    I use a GE7, but not in the effects loop as I don't really use amp distortion. I do, however, put it after a valve preamp pedal. I hike the middle EQ slider slightly and have the volume slider up about a millimetre. It does the loud/mid boost thing for me like that.

    Having the EQ after your distortion-generating preamp also gives you the option to experiment with different tone shapes: ie, set your amp distortion for a mid-heavy distortion and use the pedal set with a V shape for that modernish metally scoop. Or vice versa. However, I've never used mine like this, so it's mainly supposition.

    Well said sir!! :)


  • #4
    KevLeppard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭KevLeppard


    Grolschevik wrote: »
    If you're using the GE7 before the amp (ie not in the effects loop) I'd say that maxing the volume on it is simply hitting the preamp valves harder, which might well mush up your tone and also drive your clean tone into distortion.

    Try using it in the effects loop. I don't think you'll need to max the volume for that. Perhaps also boost some of the mid frequencies slightly to let the lead cut through the mix. I believe that Slash used a GE7 like this.

    I use a GE7, but not in the effects loop as I don't really use amp distortion. I do, however, put it after a valve preamp pedal. I hike the middle EQ slider slightly and have the volume slider up about a millimetre. It does the loud/mid boost thing for me like that.

    Having the EQ after your distortion-generating preamp also gives you the option to experiment with different tone shapes: ie, set your amp distortion for a mid-heavy distortion and use the pedal set with a V shape for that modernish metally scoop. Or vice versa. However, I've never used mine like this, so it's mainly supposition.

    Thanks for that dude, it was REALLY helpful. I gave it a shot and it definetely works a lot better in the effects loop.


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