Bt Ireland and vodafone

Pyro Boy

Now it has really started
http://www.techcentral.ie/article.aspx?id=13921

I didn't think they would scale the website down so much here's a picture of the site

Can't check my internet usage but not sure if it is connected.

Anyone know if the Bt customers broadband options will get upgraded to vodafones ones like 40GB download limit instead of 10 GB

Psychedelic

That's mad, I just came on this forum to see what Vodafone broadband is like as I was considering switching from BT to Vodafone, looks like I'll be switched automatically now.

From reading further details on the BT website, it seems BT customers will be offered different packages by Vodafone when the switch over takes place.

JohnC.

I hope I'm not getting transferred to a Vodafone package, unless they change their packages. The 7Mb cap is nearly halved under Vodafone.

Isaac702

Kahless wrote: »

I hope I'm not getting transferred to a Vodafone package, unless they change their packages. The 7Mb cap is nearly halved under Vodafone.

Now that Vodafone has access to BT's infrastructure I would expect that they would alter their packages and not the other way around.

dublinbusdude

I'm confused here? is BT Ireland now Vodafone Ireland?

jor el

dublinbusdude wrote: »

I'm confused here? is BT Ireland now Vodafone Ireland?

Pretty much, yes. Vodafone bought out BT (most of it anyway) last month.

Pyro Boy

I see that the Competition Authority has approved the agreement whereby BT Ireland Broadband Customers will transfer to Vodafone. Is there any update yet on the timeline agreed between BT and Vodafone on this?

Hi CivilEx

We plan to transfer customers over in stages to ensure smooth migration of services. We're currently working with BT to agree the process for migration and we'll start the transfer process shortly. We hope to have all customer moved over to Vodafone by the end of March 2010.

Val

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I'd hope they would transfer us all over quicker than the March!!
Link to the forum

jor el

Do you know if you'll be dumping BT's woeful billing system? That would be the biggest improvement possible.

TheDriver

must say i changed to vodafone from bt last month (due to need for new modem and not wanting to wait to get my higher speeds for cheaper money) and its great value but took ages to get through on the customer services line, waiting for good few minutes.

thorfield

Hi TheDriver
Can you let me know if you BB was down for long on the migration. I am also with BT and am looking to move. I want to see how long I will be without BB.

I was about to move to VF@H before they announced the 'BT' thing and waited to see what they would do; for now nothing.

The VF@H price is ~7 Euro a month cheaper from what I see for 3M BB + rental and all-day calls. I hope they can switch to a montly billing plan.

Thanks
N.

TheDriver

BT leave theirs on for 2 weeks as a goodwill gesture while you change your password over, so both work for a bit together. Just put in your vodafone stuff and in theory, the bt turns off. no loss of service

whosedaddy?

Pyro Boy wrote: »

Hi CivilEx

We plan to transfer customers over in stages to ensure smooth migration of services. We're currently working with BT to agree the process for migration and we'll start the transfer process shortly. We hope to have all customer moved over to Vodafone by the end of March 2010.

Val

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I'd hope they would transfer us all over quicker than the March!!
Link to the forum

Why would they. the VF@H is cheaper than the BT bundles, why should they rush migrating the higher profit margin customers (we pay 7€ more for 3MB + anytime bundle). And as customer, if I want reduced price and higher Cap - I migrate to VF on my request now and get locked into 12 month contract.

Pyro Boy

True but if you are on the option 1 1MB and total talk it's €48.15
And other things that you get if you stay are:

free calls to the uk which you don't get with Vodafone or the 33% off your mobiles (offpeak 9cent)
So for some customers it might be good for them to wait and see before making a quick decision.

Yes, you will continue to be able to make free calls to UK fixed numbers when you transfer to Vodafone.

I currently get 33% off the cost of my calls to Irish mobiles with BT Call Mobile, will this still be the case when I transfer to Vodafone?

Yes, upon transfer to Vodafone, you will continue to avail of this feature, along with other exciting fixed/mobile Packages brought to you by Ireland's leading mobile operator.

And don't forget what vodafone say :

BT customers will move to Vodafone at Home but they will retain all the benefits and more that they received from BT

whosedaddy?

Pyro Boy wrote: »

And don't forget what vodafone say :

BT customers will move to Vodafone at Home but they will retain all the benefits and more that they received from BT

Correct, only they don't tell you when you will get the more... I want to retain the benefits and get the more (cheaper price) now :rolleyes:

Pyro Boy

jor el wrote: »

Do you know if you'll be dumping BT's woeful billing system? That would be the biggest improvement possible.

From the looks of things Yes

What will I be charged for on my last BT bill and my first Vodafone bill?

Your last BT bill will only include the calls you have made during that billing period. Your first Vodafone bill will include:

1. Rental in arrears for the period from your last BT bill to the end of that month
2. Rental in advance which will cover to the end of the current month
3. Calls made since your last BT bill

There are no additional costs during this period although due to different billing systems, your first bill from Vodafone will look different to previous bills. We will include information with your first bill to help you understand the charges.

murphd

Anyone know if they've changed their fair usage policy with the merger on the 'unlimited' 24mb package?
I went a bit over the unwritten 100gb cap last month and wasn't throttled.

Just got this in the post:

The new bundle deal if you have broadband and free calls then you will get free calls to nominated Vodafone mobiles is very welcomed

MisterAnarchy

Would it not make sense to switch to Vodafone straight away and start saving money instantly instead of waiting a few months and be automatically switched ?
I'm sure a switch from BT to Vodafone now is a formality .

Pyro Boy

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Would it not make sense to switch to Vodafone straight away and start saving money instantly instead of waiting a few months and be automatically switched ?
I'm sure a switch from BT to Vodafone now is a formality .

Depends on what option you were on on BT option 1 was only €48.15 so you're not saving money .

Plus if you want to keep these

1)BT offer of free calls to the UK and NI
1)33% off mobile rates

Dampsquid

Went to sign up with vodafone, i am a bt customer.

Put all my details in online, bank details for direct debit, then on the last screen they ask for credit card. WTF Amount to be paid was zero.

artielange

Is it just me but they seemed to have a placed cap of 60gbOn all their higher tierd packages. Who will I switch to now, not much choice where I am at. I hope I am wrong and it wouldn't be the first time.

artielange

hellboy99 wrote: »

Just got this in the post:

Is it just me but does that say "CONQUEROR" just faintly at the bottom of the page?

Hellboy not sure if the image is quotable, but is there something else there.

Positive, images aren't quotable.

JohnC.

artielange wrote: »

Is it just me but does that say "CONQUEROR" just faintly at the bottom of the page?

They make paper.

artielange

artielange wrote: »

Is it just me but does that say "CONQUEROR" just faintly at the bottom of the page?

Hellboy not sure if the image is quotable, but is there something else there.

Positive, images aren't quotable.

As Kahless said, it's who makes the paper, it's their watermark.

Why wouldn't the contents of the letter not be quotable, it's what Vodafone posted out to me

artielange

hellboy99 wrote: »

Why wouldn't the contents of the letter not be quotable, it's what Vodafone posted out to me

I was talking about the using the quote button in boards.ie.:)

boardsdotie

Does this mean all 12 month contracts with BT will become null and void?

Dampsquid

It is a phased migration probably to allow people on 12 month contracts to see out their contact with bt.

BlackWizard

I really should be trottled right now. 120gigs in the last 30 rolling days.

It was a mistake.. didn't mean to download that much.

Anyone have any ideas of the caps they will use??

Right now my broadband quality and everyone else in the area is terrible. Only seems to be this bad recently. Never had this issue before.

AllGunsBlazing

As things stand I'm on the 3 meg broadband package with BT but my voice calls and line rental are billed through eircom.

Im wondering if the line rental situation disqualifies me from this migration. From what I've read on both the BT and vodafone sites line rental with BT is a must?

jor el

artielange wrote: »

Is it just me but they seemed to have a placed cap of 60gbOn all their higher tierd packages. Who will I switch to now, not much choice where I am at. I hope I am wrong and it wouldn't be the first time.

Magnet, Smart, UTV, all do larger caps.

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

From what I've read on both the BT and vodafone sites line rental with BT is a must?

Line rental is a must with any DSL provider, BT, Vodafone, etc.

Wonda-Boy

I have had 2 eircom sales reps banging down my door...telling me that BT was pulling out of Ireland and to switch to Eircom. The rep was saying that Vodaphones broadband is done by "PERLICO" and that internet service is really really bad.

They offer 7mb BB and all house calls incld Sentanta Sports online for €65 all in. I sure as ****ing hell do not want me broadband with PERLICO. Also eircoms 7mb BB has a very good contention ratio of guarenteed 24:1.....ideal for GAMERS!!!

Dont know what to do now!!!!

thund3rbird_

AllGunsBlazing wrote: »

As things stand I'm on the 3 meg broadband package with BT but my voice calls and line rental are billed through eircom.

Im wondering if the line rental situation disqualifies me from this migration. From what I've read on both the BT and vodafone sites line rental with BT is a must?

I'm in the same boat - looks like you have to take line rental with voda

still a handy way to get out of it if you refuse to transfer line rental

Pyro Boy

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

I have had 2 eircom sales reps banging down my door...telling me that BT was pulling out of Ireland and to switch to Eircom. The rep was saying that Vodaphones broadband is done by "PERLICO" and that internet service is really really bad.

They offer 7mb BB and all house calls incld Sentanta Sports online for €65 all in. I sure as ****ing hell do not want me broadband with PERLICO. Also eircoms 7mb BB has a very good contention ratio of guarenteed 24:1.....ideal for GAMERS!!!

Dont know what to do now!!!!

BT have not moved out of Ireland

BT will transfer its consumer and small business broadband and voice customer base to Vodafone and will also provide wholesale network services to underpin Vodafone's business over a seven-year period. BT will also be committing significant investment towards building an advanced network infrastructure and improving broadband speeds in Ireland. It will provide a platform for the delivery of up to 24Mbps broadband services to approximately two thirds of Ireland's available broadband lines by unbundling up to 58 additional exchanges. To date, BT has already unbundled 22 exchanges in the Republic of Ireland.

Vodaphones broadband is done by "PERLICO"


I think that's not a true statement either anyone else know for sure?

"internet service is really really bad"

Wouldn't that be your fault Eircom since the line is rented off you? And you haven't spent enough upgrading the network.

JohnC.

Vodafone did buy Perlico, but I'm not sure to what extent Vodafone broadband is "provided by Perlico." Vodafones 7MB package also seems to be 24:1.

TheDriver

Perlico are still run by themselves but yes owned by VF. I switched and its perfect so far, only bother is online usage etc is not working but I changed from 1Mb BT to 3Mb VF (couldn't wait to for change as could be months away) and anyways, its working perfectly, no bother.P.S. I get line rental, 3Mb broadband with 40Gb limit, free evening calls for 40 a month which I consider cheaper than even BT

Wonda-Boy

So most peeps with BT are gonna stay with BT/Vodaphone and see what happens?

Are Eircom really that bad.

Dampsquid

I changed over to utv. Unlimited usage (they told me no one ever hit the fair usage cap and it was a over 200GB) and i get a fixed ip.

JohnC.

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

So most peeps with BT are gonna stay with BT/Vodaphone and see what happens?

Are Eircom really that bad.

I'm staying until the dust settles and I see what the packages end up as, ie. if Vodafone up their 7Mb cap. If not, I'm thinking of UTV too. Won't be going to eircom.

Pyro Boy

I'm going to wait too hopefully I'll get better internet I'm currently on 1Mb with 10GB download and 10GB upload When I get transferrred will I be able to get the 3Mb broadband with 40GB and unlimited uploads ? These are my stats:

Dasilva94

What's going to happen to the 24 Meg deal.

Is that out the window now?

snaps

Is there a package with Vodafone home which includes free calls to the UK. Thats what im looking for?

Also do you get charged if you excede your download limit, ie 40gb?

TheDriver

in theory there is a charge on overusage but some people here posted that they went slightly over it and didn't get charged. You can't check the online usage yet either so pen and paper.....
ANyone know of a utility that my computer can record how much it downloads???

Dipole

Current package BT Broadband & Total-Talk (1)
Was on to BT last Friday to upgrade to Wireless Router. This was OK.
Asked about changing package to include 33% of Mobile calls but was told this could not be done because of their deal with Vodafone. :mad:
Probably applies to any change.

snaps

TheDriver wrote: »

in theory there is a charge on overusage but some people here posted that they went slightly over it and didn't get charged. You can't check the online usage yet either so pen and paper.....
ANyone know of a utility that my computer can record how much it downloads???

Yes i notice on my account infomation online with vodafone there is nothing showing for my calls made or data used?

TheDriver

I emailed them and the reply was:

Thank you for your e-mail.
Unfortunately at present customers are unable to view their usage
online, although this may change in the future.
Also your monthly download allowance runs from the 1st of the month
until the end of the month.
If you have any further queries please do not hesitate to contact us.

Calebmcd

My contract with eircom is up in a few months.
I'm switching to vodafone. Switching from 3 to vodafone too.

7mb for €48 plus 10% off if your a Vodafone mobile customer too.

They have a 60gb limit too, better than eircoms 40gb(not 50 gb like advertised)

Last month i broke the limit.

Total Time Online: 595:21:56
Total Uploads: 1869 MB
Total Downloads: 55315 MB
Download Allowance: 40960 MB
Download Excess: 14355 MB
Percent of Allowance used: 135%

cpu-dude

Pyro Boy wrote: »

I'm going to wait too hopefully I'll get better internet I'm currently on 1Mb with 10GB download and 10GB upload When I get transferrred will I be able to get the 3Mb broadband with 40GB and unlimited uploads ? These are my stats:

Maybe 2MB since you've a good noise margin but that high attenuation might set you back.

Trial and error, go for up to 3MB when you can and request to be put on 2MB straight away.

JohnC.

TheDriver wrote: »

ANyone know of a utility that my computer can record how much it downloads???

I use NetLimiter Monitor. It's free. But it will only give figures for the computers it is installed on, of course. If you have other devices using the connection, such as consoles or phones, it can't include those. But phones shouldn't use much and it is easy enough to keep track of large downloads on consoles from month to month.

TheDriver

thank kahless, presume consoles such as xbox don't use much to merely play games?

homer911

If you are thinking of transferring over early, I'd advise to leave it a few days. I've just been talking to a call centre in Cork where the staff dont seem to know what they are doing and systems are creaking under the strain. They also promised me a new free wireless modem, which is not what it says on their website, but I'm not complaining...

I currently have a 7.6MB connection with BT, yet when I check my line on the Vodafone site it says I can only get 3MB