New Sky Offer from Sept 1st 2009

von Smallhausen

New Offer:

Sky+HD box now €24.50 with Free installation when a new customer takes two or more premiums

New Sky+HD customers taking a minimum of two premium channels i.e. Sports/Movies
Standard installation is free for both standalone and Multiroom subscribers. Half Price Sky+HD offer will run from 1 September to 29 September 2009.

Offers continuing to run:
Sky+HD box at €49 for new customers without premiums, plus a free install:
New Sky Digital customers taking up a Sky+HD subscription without two or more premium channels can get a Sky+HD box for only €49.
Standard installation is free for both Standalone and Multiroom subscribers. Additional Sky+ HD boxes €199.


Sky+ box at €49 for new customers:
New Sky Digital customers can now get a Sky+ box for €49. Standard installation is €50 for
Standalone and free for Multiroom subscribers. Additional Sky+ boxes €199.


New Sky digital customers taking both Sky+ and Sky+ HD can now avail of one discounted box only. i.e one box at €24.50/€49. The other box is should be charged at €99.


Existing customers:
Existing customers swapping to or adding a Sky+HD box:
Existing Sky digital customers who take up a Sky+HD subscription to the HD Pack and sign up to Sky TV for another 12 months can receive one Sky+HD box for just €49. Standard installation is free for Multiroom subscribers and €50 for Standalone subscribers.

Existing FDB customers swapping to Sky+: (Standalone)
Existing Sky digital customers who sign up to Sky TV for another 12 months can receive a Sky+ box for €149 and €199 for subsequent boxes. Standard installation is €100.

Existing customers taking Sky+ as an additional box: (Multiroom)
Existing Sky+/Sky+HD customers adding a Sky+ box are now charged at €199. Standard install charge of €100 applies.


Multiroom Offers
Multiroom offers for new Sky digital customers continue to run until 29 September 2009.

1. New Sky digital customers taking Multiroom (one additional subscription per household) at €7.37 per month for 12 months.
2. New Sky digital customers can take Multiroom Whole Home (more than one additional subscription and up to 8 additional subscriptions per household) at €14.75 per month for 12 months.

St Senan

Sky are still showing no loyality to existing customers looking to upgrade from standard sky to sky +

von Smallhausen

scaller wrote: »

Sky are still showing no loyality to existing customers looking to upgrade from standard sky to sky +

And I doubt thats gonna change for a while yet...quite silly tho...I mean why not give some sort of reduction when you have been with them for years...lot of ppl come up to me saying that they have been with them for well over 10 yrs...they deserve some discount

stesaurus

'Whole home'???

So you can have hd and get 3 additonal +boxes for only 14.75/month? Or have 8 normal boxes?
Presuming the 8 connections is directly related to an Octo lnb limit.

von Smallhausen

s.welstead wrote: »

'Whole home'???

So you can have hd and get 3 additonal +boxes for only 14.75/month? Or have 8 normal boxes?
Presuming the 8 connections is directly related to an Octo lnb limit.

would be correct...far as i know...havent had anyone going that far price would be monsterous...box wise

Wizard007

Sky are trying to push HD big time. In a short while a STD box will not be an option on it's own, only as part of a Multiroom. And some time after that the STD will be gone completely and only Sky+ used as additional boxes if a customer does not go for multiple HD boxes.

Also, Sky are going to allow customers have HD Multiroom installed without need of having a landline. I don't know exactly how this works ( yet ), something to do with all boxes connected to the HD box which will have something or other in their make up ( I just can't remember the right term :rolleyes: ) that sends the signals back that multiple boxes are connected. They're talking about some time in late October.

von Smallhausen

Wizard007 wrote: »

Sky are trying to push HD big time. In a short while a STD box will not be an option on it's own, only as part of a Multiroom. And some time after that the STD will be gone completely and only Sky+ used as additional boxes if a customer does not go for multiple HD boxes.

Also, Sky are going to allow customers have HD Multiroom installed without need of having a landline. I don't know exactly how this works ( yet ), something to do with all boxes connected to the HD box which will have something or other in their make up ( I just can't remember the right term :rolleyes: ) that sends the signals back that multiple boxes are connected. They're talking about some time in late October.

Ahh Wizard007...I havent seen you in a long time...where have you been hiding?:D:D Yea the Free Standard Box are slowly been shown the door to the satellite heaven in the sky. But the HD multiroom without a landline will be interesting to say the least...I look forward to hearing more about this:)

Wizard007

Hi there Danny

Well at least it gives people more options. Less and less homes are using land lines at the moment. And the HD box is theee bestest

St Senan

Wizard007 wrote: »

Also, Sky are going to allow customers have HD Multiroom installed without need of having a landline. I don't know exactly how this works ( yet ), something to do with all boxes connected to the HD box which will have something or other in their make up ( I just can't remember the right term :rolleyes: ) that sends the signals back that multiple boxes are connected. They're talking about some time in late October.

I wonder how something like this could work multiroom boxes connected to main skyHD box while none of them are connected to a phone line and all of them will still be able to Phone home {SKY} Anyone else have any ideas how this can work.

Star Bingo

had installers out today. but the phoneline hitch, for 3 boxes - wires will have to go under floorboards manually downstairs and another point in the attic too

.. if this landline system scrappage is true, i wish it were late october.


EDIT: i second scaller's post

Zonda999

Here's a question lads,

Currently have sky multiroom with two bog standard sky boxes. I want to swap one of these boxes for a sky+ box. However based on these horrible upgrade prices, what i'd like to do is just buy a sky+ box off ebay and install it myself, just an extra coax from the lnb as i understand. If i ring sky up, will they allow me to do this and just update one of my subscriptions to a sky+ subscription, free of charge?

von Smallhausen

Zonda999 wrote: »

Here's a question lads,

Currently have sky multiroom with two bog standard sky boxes. I want to swap one of these boxes for a sky+ box. However based on these horrible upgrade prices, what i'd like to do is just buy a sky+ box off ebay and install it myself, just an extra coax from the lnb as i understand. If i ring sky up, will they allow me to do this and just update one of my subscriptions to a sky+ subscription, free of charge?

Yea just give them the viewing card number...or do a new install on the new box which does the call back...if they ask...it was given to you as a present or something like that...did it for the brother...he has my fathers old sky+box in his own house...just added the extra cable and i did the rest.

Zonda999

Danny_B wrote: »

Yea just give them the viewing card number...or do a new install on the new box which does the call back...if they ask...it was given to you as a present or something like that...did it for the brother...he has my fathers old sky+box in his own house...just added the extra cable and i did the rest.

Cool, might just do that, theres a latest gen sky+ box on adverts for 55€ so might go for that. Would make both my boxes sky+ boxes but aint gonna go for an octo lnb just yet! The fourth outlet on the lnb is reserved for my Mvision HD200Combo!:)

von Smallhausen

Basically you got a hold of a sky+box...and you want to upgrade your card to enable the recording...you will have to give them the viewing card number and the version and serial number of the sky+ box...all will be given in the services - system setup - system details (but you already knew that :D)

Zonda999

Danny_B wrote: »

Basically you got a hold of a sky+box...and you want to upgrade your card to enable the recording...you will have to give them the viewing card number and the version and serial number of the sky+ box...all will be given in the services - system setup - system details (but you already knew that :D)

Thanks man,

That sounds like the thing to do then. €200 for me to buy a sky+ through sky themselves? I dont think so. I was considering doing it a few months back and IIRC, an extra sky+ box would only have been €99 euro then so Sky are clearly proving to be immune to to the recession. this is the first i've ever heard of sky boxes being €200, since the HD boxes were around that price anyway!:)

von Smallhausen

Zonda999 wrote: »

Thanks man,

That sounds like the thing to do then. €200 for me to buy a sky+ through sky themselves? I dont think so. I was considering doing it a few months back and IIRC, an extra sky+ box would only have been €99 euro then so Sky are clearly proving to be immune to to the recession. this is the first i've ever heard of sky boxes being €200, since the HD boxes were around that price anyway!:)

The prices are a bit wacky alright...immune to the recession...dont think they believe in it!

bk

Wizard007 wrote: »

Also, Sky are going to allow customers have HD Multiroom installed without need of having a landline. I don't know exactly how this works ( yet ), something to do with all boxes connected to the HD box which will have something or other in their make up ( I just can't remember the right term :rolleyes: ) that sends the signals back that multiple boxes are connected. They're talking about some time in late October.

There is a couple of ways they could do this:

1) Using the ethernet port

Directly connect the two boxes over an ethernet connection, the least likely option as it would be easy for techies to abuse.

2) Using wifi/bluetooth/dect or some other proprietary wireless technology to have the two boxes talk to one another.

3) Using homeplug (ethernet over powerlines) for the boxes to talk to one another.

The interesting thing about all these options is that it creates a network between the multiroom devices, which leads to some interesting possibilities like:

1) Streaming recordings from one box to another, so you could watch shows recorded in the living from the box in your bedroom.

2) If you add a recording/series link to one box, but it clashes with an already scheduled recording, then it can order other boxes in the home to make the recording instead.

This is called whole home DVR and it is very popular in the US with AT&T U-Verse service and others.

KnowsHisStuff

Are these for the south of Ireland only?

von Smallhausen

KnowsHisStuff wrote: »

Are these for the south of Ireland only?

For the ROI...the south...yes...wouldnt know the northern offers.

MisterAnarchy

Danny_B wrote: »

Existing FDB customers swapping to Sky+: (Standalone)
Existing Sky digital customers who sign up to Sky TV for another 12 months can receive a Sky+ box for €149 and €199 for subsequent boxes. Standard installation is €100.

So €249 for a new Sky+ box.
Thats outrageous ,those boxes are old technology,dinosaurs in todays electronic era.
They are being manufactured for buttons .

von Smallhausen

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

So €249 for a new Sky+ box.
Thats outrageous ,those boxes are old technology,dinosaurs in todays electronic era.
They are being manufactured for buttons .

Same with the standard box...as Wizard007 stated earlier in the thread...they will become obsolete after a while. they will be made into paper weights..or other sky remotes lol

Widescreen

The only downside of having two hd boxes for me would be that as I have both my digiboxes under the main tv and use magic eyes for the other two tellys, I would be back to the old "covering up the sensor on the box trick" when you are changing channel on one of the digiboxes when watching on the main tv. You might say whats the point of watching hd pictures through RF cables.In my case its the convenience of not having the kitchen/bedroom cluttered with digiboxes(big in the case of HD box)and the atmospheric conditions in a kitchen at times also may not be conducive to the longevity of certain electrical appliances.But the pricing is enticing to go for a second Sky plus box and the HD one would be the best to buy.

Sky should make it an option whereby you can set your remote to operate just the one hd box and not the lot!

I am happy with my current set up of 1 std box and 1 hd box , separate independent remotes, no hassle!

BTW I assume a standard sky plus remote can't operate a hd box as well?

bk

Widescreen wrote: »

The only downside of having two hd boxes for me would be that as I have both my digiboxes under the main tv and use magic eyes for the other two tellys, I would be back to the old "covering up the sensor on the box trick" when you are changing channel on one of the digiboxes when watching on the main tv. You might say whats the point of watching hd pictures through RF cables.In my case its the convenience of not having the kitchen/bedroom cluttered with digiboxes(big in the case of HD box)and the atmospheric conditions in a kitchen at times also may not be conducive to the longevity of certain electrical appliances.But the pricing is enticing to go for a second Sky plus box and the HD one would be the best to buy.

You know you can get long HDMI cables or run HDMI over Cat5 so that you get a HD picture on your other TV's?

JoeA3

Widescreen wrote: »

BTW I assume a standard sky plus remote can't operate a hd box as well?

Yes it can. I got HD in recently and the remote from my previous Sky+ box works perfectly with the new box, without changing any settings or resetting it or anything!

Widescreen

JoeA3 wrote: »

Yes it can. I got HD in recently and the remote from my previous Sky+ box works perfectly with the new box, without changing any settings or resetting it or anything!

Pity,suit my set up better if it didn't! thanks..

JoeA3

Widescreen wrote: »

Pity,suit my set up better if it didn't! thanks..

In my bedroom, I have 2 remotes. One, a Sky+ remote controls the HD box in the living room via a magic eye. The other remote is for an old card-less Sky box which I use for the FTA channels in the bedroom (rarely use it to be honest). Neither of those remotes interfere with one another, they work independently. Perhaps because the FTA box is an old (non-Sky+) box.

atticus

Any idea how long it takes to get a SKY HD upgrade, rang them yesterday and got the "we will register your interest" guff.

JoeA3

atticus wrote: »

Any idea how long it takes to get a SKY HD upgrade, rang them yesterday and got the "we will register your interest" guff.

Last month - I ordered on a Tuesday and it was installed on the following Saturday. Upgraded from Sky+.

Wizard007

A customer I was speaking to this morning was told by Sky Direct, it could take them up three months. Has anyone else been told this? We ended up taking their order and their install is lunch time tomorrow ( direct swap out STD to HD )

Go to a local Agent - it's faster, plus better back up if anything goes wrong / need a service call.

von Smallhausen

Wizard007 wrote: »

A customer I was speaking to this morning was told by Sky Direct, it could take them up three months. Has anyone else been told this? We ended up taking their order and their install is lunch time tomorrow ( direct swap out STD to HD )

Go to a local Agent - it's faster, plus better back up if anything goes wrong / need a service call.

Yes independent retailers are generally quicker...think you register first if you go with sky directly...

atticus

Know of any independents in the Wicklow Town area?, the sticky has one based in Gorey, any others? Thanks.

bricks

scaller wrote: »

I wonder how something like this could work multiroom boxes connected to main skyHD box while none of them are connected to a phone line and all of them will still be able to Phone home {SKY} Anyone else have any ideas how this can work.

I supose they could theortically send encrypted messages between themselves and stop operating if the messages don't contain the right responses.
Or maybe the boxes would be connceted to the internet and have to be seen from the same public IP to work.

Zonda999

Zonda999 wrote: »

Here's a question lads,

Currently have sky multiroom with two bog standard sky boxes. I want to swap one of these boxes for a sky+ box. However based on these horrible upgrade prices, what i'd like to do is just buy a sky+ box off ebay and install it myself, just an extra coax from the lnb as i understand. If i ring sky up, will they allow me to do this and just update one of my subscriptions to a sky+ subscription, free of charge?

Got the sky+ box today but cant run the other coax from the dish yet(Dont yet have the caox or the f connectors...)

Anyway, the question. If i put the single coax from the dish, from one of the existing standard sky boxes, into the sky+ box, and put the viewing card into the sky+ box too, will i be able to recieve the existing channels on the new box, or will i have to contact sky before i do anything?

Basically, what will happen if i hook up my sky+ box now?

ynotdu

Wizard007 wrote: »

Sky are trying to push HD big time. In a short while a STD box will not be an option on it's own, only as part of a Multiroom. And some time after that the STD will be gone completely and only Sky+ used as additional boxes if a customer does not go for multiple HD boxes.

Also, Sky are going to allow customers have HD Multiroom installed without need of having a landline. I don't know exactly how this works ( yet ), something to do with all boxes connected to the HD box which will have something or other in their make up ( I just can't remember the right term :rolleyes: ) that sends the signals back that multiple boxes are connected. They're talking about some time in late October.

It beats the hell out of me why the need for Landline anymore as many homes now only use mobiles.If Sky had really got foresight surely new box,s would have something that a quick gps check by them would show all box,s are located were they should be?

Oh wait may,be despite what they promise companies they buy the rights from,they actually dont care were in Europe watchs so long as the bill is paid!;)

von Smallhausen

ynotdu wrote: »

It beats the hell out of me why the need for Landline anymore as many homes now only use mobiles.If Sky had really got foresight surely new box,s would have something that a quick gps check by them would show all box,s are located were they should be?

Oh wait may,be despite what they promise companies they buy the rights from,they actually dont care were in Europe watchs so long as the bill is paid!;)

I can think of 2 reasons:

1. You can view your bill through the interactive services. (they are trying to get more people to do it this way then actually paper statements)

2. Ordering Box Office events without a admin charge. (also quicker then calling them)

ynotdu

Danny_B wrote: »

I can think of 2 reasons:

1. You can view your bill through the interactive services. (they are trying to get more people to do it this way then actually paper statements)

2. Ordering Box Office events without a admin charge. (also quicker then calling them)

thanks Danny.

1=they need less people working for them in accounts.

2=yes SBO events are cheaper but require less staff.

more profit for sky,less jobs for employe,s:)

Wizard007

Landlines are need to ensure all boxes purchased on a Multiroom offer are kept in the one house. The boxes are heavily subsidised by Sky and it prevents ( supposed to prevent ) the boxes being used in several houses. For the first twelve months of a Sky subscription ( notes on the back of Key Facts advise customers to have all boxes connected for the first twelve months, after the first twelve months the customer is paying 14.75 per Multiroom box ) , Sky ping the boxes every now and then requesting them to "call home" via the phone lines. If the box is not connected to the phone line of the customer it was assigned to, obviously no ping can be recieved. A warning comes up on the boxes not recieved the ping, to connect a phone line. Sky send a warning letter to the customer to advise them to connect the box. If not connected then a second warning letter is sent. If still not connected, a third letter is sent to inform the customer that they will be paying a full Sky sub on each box not connected to a phone line on top of whatever sub they are paying already.

However, Sky are bringing out a box ( HD ) that will allow Multiroom subscription without a phone line. All boxes are connected to the main box and that box is pinged via Satellite. I don't know the exact ins and outs of this yet but it is supposed to be in place late October.

ynotdu

Hi wizard,that sounds as if they will have some form of bluetooth-IR, if not GPS(still difficult to figure how it would stop say a house of flats or neighbouring houses from erm *borrowing* each others box,s.

It did seem like a crazy idea for sky to subsidise their box,s so much,but one that has worked out well for them.

one thing i am not sure of=are you saying the price of multiroom will go up after 12 months whetar or not box,s are kept connected to a phone line?

cheers.

Wizard007

Hi Ynotdu

Yes, a new subscriber to Multiroom at the moment gets one extra room for 7.35 per month or up to seven extra rooms for a total of 14.75 per month, both for the first twelve months. After twelve months they will pay 14.75 per extra box per month. What alot do is take the sub for twelve months, then cancell some of the subs and keep the boxes as free to air boxes.

danois

Are you sure they are meant to be having a way to get multi room with no phone i only ordered sky 2 weeks ago and im getting HD but was told i would need a phone line so no way to get multi room i asked would that change any time soon she said no.

Wizard007

For now, yes you do need a phone line. And yes the non land line option is on the way. I assume the person you spoke to was just a sales person? ( no disrespect meant )

von Smallhausen

ynotdu wrote: »

thanks Danny.

1=they need less people working for them in accounts.

2=yes SBO events are cheaper but require less staff.

more profit for sky,less jobs for employe,s:)

1. you will still need people working in accounts for anyone who has a billing enquiry

2. again most people who do not have a lindline will still need to call them to order.

thus you may seem to forget how many people have sky in UK & ROI...millions..and a lot of people call them every day..therefor jobs are needed to answer these calls...hense the thousands of different departments.

Oh and your welcome:D:D

bk

ynotdu wrote: »

thanks Danny.

1=they need less people working for them in accounts.

2=yes SBO events are cheaper but require less staff.

more profit for sky,less jobs for employe,s:)

Both could equally or even better handled over broadband which many people have nowadays.

As Wizard007 points out the mean reason is to ensure that all the multiroom boxes remain in the same house.

This was fine when landline penetration was over 90% five years ago, but now due to the incompetency of Eircom it has dropped to 65% and quickly falling as people cancel their landline for mobiles or UPC.

Therefore Sky needs to find another way to do this check or they will lose many potential multiroom customers, at a time when Freesat is looking quite nice.

As I pointed out earlier, Sky can do this using a variety of techniques, the best in my opinion being homeplug.

ynotdu

bk wrote: »

Both could equally or even better handled over broadband which many people have nowadays.

As Wizard007 points out the mean reason is to ensure that all the multiroom boxes remain in the same house.

This was fine when landline penetration was over 90% five years ago, but now due to the incompetency of Eircom it has dropped to 65% and quickly falling as people cancel their landline for mobiles or UPC.

Therefore Sky needs to find another way to do this check or they will lose many potential multiroom customers, at a time when Freesat is looking quite nice.

As I pointed out earlier, Sky can do this using a variety of techniques, the best in my opinion being homeplug.

Hi BK,read back on your post about homeplug.
Do i understand it correctly that the power supply into a home is almost like an ip adress?

in Ireland could BskyB get that kind of feedback from the ESB?

is it a more expensive option to bluetooth-ir or pinging by phoneline(where there is a phoneline:))

Also just a personal opinion:

If we all go along with NOT having to phone call centres or always pay by direct debit(that is how we pay for UPC)ar,nt we costing people their jobs?

ok sky will Always need some call centers,but the more automated they become the less employee,s they would need surely?

UPC who have up to now accepted payments via a post office are now only accepting direct debits for their recently introduced packages.

the goal for both providers seems to be that OUR money gets moved from our accounts into theirs without the need for them to employ anybody:eek:

should we not help to protect jobs and tell them"sorry,Direct Debit payments do not suit our household"?

If enough did say that they would have to get down off their arrogant high horse and accept post office payments(keeping small P.O,s open)

It would also benifit the consumour in that they would see their bill(on paper,saving more jobs)

That way if either overcharged the customer can remain in charge of their own account and unlike the present system of offering a credit on an incorrect bill,they would not get a vigilant overcharged customers money by DD in the first place.!

bk

ynotdu wrote: »

Hi BK,read back on your post about homeplug.
Do i understand it correctly that the power supply into a home is almost like an ip adress?

in Ireland could BskyB get that kind of feedback from the ESB?

is it a more expensive option to bluetooth-ir or pinging by phoneline(where there is a phoneline:))

Not quite, homeplug is basically ethernet over powerline. I've two homeplug devices in my apartment, they plug straight into the power sockets and then I plug ethernet cable into them to create a 200mb/s network.

http://www.homeplug.org/products

How it would benefit Sky is that typically homeplug devices can't cross the electricity trip switch box in your house, so it would be a good way for Sky to check if the two boxes stay in the same house.

Also it would have the neat advantage of letting the Sky boxes talk to one another to schedule recordings, stream recordings, etc.

bluetooth-ir won't work as IR is line of site, so useless if the two boxes aren't in the same room and bluetooth is far too short distance only about 10m meters.

They could use wifi or a proprietary system over 2.4GHz wireless (same frequency as digital cordless phones) but then they run into the problem that two or more next door neighbours might pick up the signal and therefore able to share the boxes.

Yes all these systems are probably a little more expensive then the phoneline, but not by much, I've seen a pair of homeplug devices on sale for €25 and Sky have to do something.

I wonder if there is another way of doing this? I wonder if there is a way for a Sky box to uniquely identify what LNB it is attached to? Or the dishes position to the sat. So that the Sky box could be locked to the LNB that the installer installs it at first and that it would therefore not work if moved.

Anybody any idea if that would work? Watty?

Tony

It may be possible to identify the lnb but there is no real point since the lnb could be anywhere in Europe receiveing astra 2.

bk wrote: »

I wonder if there is a way for a Sky box to uniquely identify what LNB it is attached to?

Mitch Connor

Hi all, maybe someone here would be kind enough to help me on this.

I currently have Sky+, one sub, in the house at the moment. I am soon going to be upgrading that to a Sky HD box and sub.

while I am doing this, I might go for the multiroom offer. the whole house thing seems like a good deal at 14.95 per month, cause if I was getting multi-room i reckon I would need at least two other connections for it to be worth doing.

What would the cost, total, be in doing this.

49 for the HD box, extra 30 a month sub (sub for HD, sub for whole house). What would the price of the boxes be?

Assuming the second and third boxes were Sky+ boxes, would I need to pay for two new boxes, or would I only need to pay for one, and get the guy installing it to move the current sky box to whichever room I want it moved to?

bk

Tony wrote: »

It may be possible to identify the lnb but there is no real point since the lnb could be anywhere in Europe receiveing astra 2.

Hi Tony, the point being that Sky could ensure that the two (or more) Sky boxes are connected to the same LNB.

If LNB's are unique, then the two Sky boxes could read the LNB they are attached to and tell each other over wireless tech, etc. If the two boxes aren't connected to the same LNB then they stop working.

Perhaps they could even avoid the wireless step, by simply having the installer sync and lock the Sky box to the LNB so that it couldn't later be moved to a different LNB.

Of course you are correct, a LNB could be moved anywhere in Europe and Sky don't really care about that as long as you continue to pay them, what they are trying to avoid here is two neighbours or family/friends getting Sky multiroom and sharing the (much cheaper) cost between them.

By locking two or more boxes to a particular LNB you avoid that situation,

Tony

bk wrote: »

Of course you are correct, a LNB could be moved anywhere in Europe and Sky don't really care about that as long as you continue to pay them,

Hi Bk,

I'm not so sure about that anymore, they seem to be going out of their way to stop this. Had a call from them the other day about a legitimate address that they did not have on their database.

The lnb idea does have some merit but they may well wait until optical lnb's are in wider use before going down that road.

von Smallhausen

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Hi all, maybe someone here would be kind enough to help me on this.

I currently have Sky+, one sub, in the house at the moment. I am soon going to be upgrading that to a Sky HD box and sub.

while I am doing this, I might go for the multiroom offer. the whole house thing seems like a good deal at 14.95 per month, cause if I was getting multi-room i reckon I would need at least two other connections for it to be worth doing.

What would the cost, total, be in doing this.

49 for the HD box, extra 30 a month sub (sub for HD, sub for whole house). What would the price of the boxes be?

Assuming the second and third boxes were Sky+ boxes, would I need to pay for two new boxes, or would I only need to pay for one, and get the guy installing it to move the current sky box to whichever room I want it moved to?

The multiroom offer is for new customers only...you wont get at as you already have a sub. For second and third Sky+ boxes you will be charged €199 each

Mitch Connor

Danny_B wrote: »

The multiroom offer is for new customers only...you wont get at as you already have a sub. For second and third Sky+ boxes you will be charged €199 each

ah, i misread the OP, thought the mutiroom offers were for all. what a jip. oh well.