Another mock socialist double jobbing...

...after the recent furore over Bertie Ahern getting a sports column, I see another pretend left winger getting a media job - Pat Rabbitte hosting the breakfast show on Newstalk. Not sure if he's just filling in for Ivan Yates. Again, between collecting all those ministerial pensions that we pay for, representing his constituents, running the farm etc. etc. just where does he get the time? Is there something about former party leaders that think they enter some holiday camp after they get their marching cards from that job? Do their egos need massaging?

ednwireland

prob. needs a second job after all thoise massive paycuts the td's took :rolleyes:

FTA69

I wonder does he still have any of the counterfeit fivers from the 80s? Pat Rabbitte wouldn't know socialism if Karl Marx booted him up the hole.

Sleipnir

I think it's a shocking picture of where the media is now as politicians are becoming the media. How good for a politician who can now basically spout whatever he wants in his column or on his radio show?

We'll have utter and complete deference of the media to politicians in a few years because they'll be the journalists!

meditraitor

Were does it say a socialist cannot have 2 jobs?

What a stupid thread!

meditraitor

meditraitor wrote: »

Were does it say a socialist cannot have 2 jobs?

What a stupid thread!

Where does it say on this thread that a socialist cannot have two jobs?

What a stupid post.

You may have missed the point. I was merely pointing out that another pretend left winger has taken a media job. I never suggested that there is some rule against it.

eoinbn

Deleted User wrote: »

Where does it say on this thread that a socialist cannot have two jobs?

What a stupid post.

You may have missed the point. I was merely pointing out that another pretend left winger has taken a media job. I never suggested that there is some rule against it.

So what are you trying to imply? That the media is a right-wing medium?

Diarmuid

I have to say I think it's irrelevant if they can continue and do the job we are paying them for.

However taking one look at the performance of the Irish political class over the past 30-40 years it's pretty clear that they can't do one job properly, not to mention two. Bertie is the ultimate poster boy for this incompetance.

eoinbn

eoinbn wrote: »

So what are you trying to imply? That the media is a right-wing medium?

I am not trying to imply anything.

I am asking what is with the egos of these people that they need to be on the media?

And do they not realise that, while the rest of us are told to tighten our belts, watching them claim their expenses, their pensions, their TD salary and now getting another job on top is a tad galling?

It doesn't matter to me if the public representative with 4 incomes (or 5, as Pat is renting out the farm afaik) is left or right wing - I'd have the same core complaint if they were right wing. The fact that he and Bertie wrapped themselves in the cloak of socialism while amassing their fortunes was an aside. The fact that they have numerous income streams is the main point.

Ostrom

eoinbn wrote: »

So what are you trying to imply? That the media is a right-wing medium?

No less than our 'socialist' labor party

FlutterinBantam

Makes me slip out a small smile when I read the angst shown by "Socialists" when some of their former champions takes a bung from the "opposition".

heh heh, well maybe a bit of a guffaw.

Who have we got now

Ruari Quinn
Pat Rabbitte
Des Geraghty

Jimmy Somers

Begg and O'Connor will join them later.

So you wear your Soviet suit from the 60s and trumpet your "Wooorkers roooights" mantra and these punters will trouser huge money at your expense.


Always look behind the rhetoric:cool:

JonathanAnon

I wouldnt have a problem of a man with Pat Rabbitte's integrity taking up a job like that part time. It's not like he hosted a free party for his future employed while he was in position of power. And his daughter's book was not promoted in return. Bertie Ahern makes me sick.

JonathanAnon

JonathanAnon wrote: »

And his daughter's book was not promoted in return.

Well, as you bring family into it, I guess Pat's daughter was too busy in a very expensive private school...while...while...sorry I'm laughing as I type...while Daddy was giving out about the apartheid in education...:D:D...you couldn't make this Oirish Socialist stuff up! Smoked salmon all round, I have 5 incomes so I can pay for it!

FlutterinBantam

I'm bustin' my ass laughing.


BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ DNNNNNNNNNNNNGGG


Wake up all you idealistic working class people.


LOOK BEHIND THE RHETORIC.

Ostrom

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

I'm bustin' my ass laughing.


BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ DNNNNNNNNNNNNGGG


Wake up all you idealistic working class people.


LOOK BEHIND THE RHETORIC.

You cant say that, its not a laughing matter. They have the collective and equitable distribution of the rightful returns of labor at heart*.

* May not be true

It's corny, but you know that scene at the end of Animal Farm where the animals stare in the window at the feast, and they look from animal to human and human to animal and can't tell the difference...

Though I am getting away from the thrust of the thread, and there are a few genuine socialists out there, albeit none in our Labour party. Either way, Pat, Bertie, come off it you guys...

Ostrom

Deleted User wrote: »

It's corny, but you know that scene at the end of Animal Farm where the animals stare in the window at the feast, and they look from animal to human and human to animal and can't tell the difference...

Though I am getting away from the thrust of the thread, and there are a few genuine socialists out there, albeit none in our Labour party. Either way, Pat, Bertie, come off it you guys...

The unfortunate part of it is that there are good men and women of integrity in all political parties. There was a time when Labour could have been characterized as socialist, but not anymore; the Greens seem to be demonstrating a similar absorption and standardization process well at the moment.

Het-Field

Deleted User wrote: »

...after the recent furore over Bertie Ahern getting a sports column, I see another pretend left winger getting a media job - Pat Rabbitte hosting the breakfast show on Newstalk. Not sure if he's just filling in for Ivan Yates. Again, between collecting all those ministerial pensions that we pay for, representing his constituents, running the farm etc. etc. just where does he get the time? Is there something about former party leaders that think they enter some holiday camp after they get their marching cards from that job? Do their egos need massaging?

In fairness, Rabbitte didnt oversee the economic crippling of the country,a nd then seek to appeal to the lowest common denominator by writing about Manure etc.

Bertie is a scumbag of the highest order, and I dont want him in the public eye anymore.

Het-Field

Het-Field wrote: »

In fairness, Rabbitte didnt oversee the economic crippling of the country

Yes.

Because in a fair and free election the people chose a Government led by Bertie and rejected a Government involving Rabbitte. We can all look back and wonder, but the people spoke loudly and clearly, and said 'no thanks Pat'.

Het-Field wrote: »

Bertie is a scumbag of the highest order, and I dont want him in the public eye anymore.

The thread is really about Pat Rabbitte on his 5th job.

If you search under 'Bertie' and 'scumbag' you can contribute to the hundreds of other threads here that cover that one...

Het-Field

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes.

Because in a fair and free election the people chose a Government led by Bertie and rejected a Government involving Rabbitte. We can all look back and wonder, but the people spoke loudly and clearly, and said 'no thanks Pat'.



The thread is really about Pat Rabbitte on his 5th job.

If you search under 'Bertie' and 'scumbag' you can contribute to the hundreds of other threads here that cover that one...

Fair election. I dont think so.

Remember, Bertie told us that the property bubble was not a "bubble", and that it was completely sustainable. He misrepresented the situation to the people. His rhetoric would ring hollow now.

Again there is huge differences between Bertie and Rabbittee. Bertie is not a sports journalists, but bandwagoned on it as he knows the readership levels. He is almost seen as more of a GAA man then Cowen, when the latter actually played inter county football.

FlutterinBantam

Lads,look ,get a bit real, it's all about trousering as much dosh as you can.

When you drill down ,as we say in management, that's what comes out.

That's the way I see they operate anyway.

Joey the lips

Major mistake with this thread! Pat the rabbit was never a socialist in fact I wonder what party he will join next

Official Sinn Fein
Sinn fein the workers party
Democratic left
Labour party

I reckon he is primed for the PD'S

Rebelheart

Deleted User wrote: »

...after the recent furore over Bertie Ahern getting a sports column, I see another pretend left winger getting a media job - Pat Rabbitte hosting the breakfast show on Newstalk. Not sure if he's just filling in for Ivan Yates. Again, between collecting all those ministerial pensions that we pay for, representing his constituents, running the farm etc. etc. just where does he get the time? Is there something about former party leaders that think they enter some holiday camp after they get their marching cards from that job? Do their egos need massaging?

I'm not Rabbitte's biggest fan but he is an extremely eloquent, sharp, coherent and articulate man. He also seems, by Irish political standards, reasonably decent. The biggest cloud hanging over him as far as I'm concerned is his Sticky reactionary background. But even in that regard, he doesn't exhibit the same Sticky-Provo stuck-in-the-70s conflict mentality of de Rossa. So it is perhaps unfair to tar him with that brush.

I think Rabbitte makes a worthwhile contribution to Irish political society. This cannot be said for very many elected politicians. But then again, I think Michael D. has been one of the most admirable, sincere, humane, noble and charming politicians in Ireland throughout the past 30 years. There's my cards on the table.

Diarmuid

Rebelheart wrote: »

I'm not Rabbitte's biggest fan but he is an extremely eloquent, sharp, coherent and articulate man. He also seems, by Irish political standards, reasonably decent. The biggest cloud hanging over him as far as I'm concerned is his Sticky reactionary background. But even in that regard, he doesn't exhibit the same Sticky-Provo stuck-in-the-70s conflict mentality of de Rossa. So it is perhaps unfair to tar him with that brush.

I think Rabbitte makes a worthwhile contribution to Irish political society. This cannot be said for very many elected politicians. But then again, I think Michael D. has been one of the most admirable, sincere, humane, noble and charming politicians in Ireland throughout the past 30 years. There's my cards on the table.

Would be no supporter of him but I'd agree with most of what you wrote.

PrivateEye

I do love some when some of my mates do the 'Hurr durr Mary Lou with an armalite!' routine in the pub, and think Volunteer Frank Ross was somebody who died in the 1920s :rolleyes:

Pure champagne socialism anyway, not because he has a second job ( Joe Higgins has a slot in the Daily Mail, blahblah....) but because of the economic policies of his party.

Politicians Of The World, Relax!

The history of the stickies and the Labour Party has been more or less forgotten. You'll only hear of Doctor McManus and the Bray business, Volunteer Ross, bogey dollars, gun running and the rest in left-wing pub talks. Note for Sinn Féin: Don't have your photos taken in vans with IRA 'volunteers' and dont sell provocative tshirts, leave the past in the past and get votes.

Dob74

Big deal if Pat Rabitte hosts the morning show for a few days.
Yeats is a blue shirt and since FF=FG, its time for a different prospective.
Noted sporting journalist Bertie writes a sports column, Jim Glennon was a regulor on the Right Hook when he was a TD.
Since labour will be in government next time out Newstalk may as well have a friend or two in government.

Joey the lips

PrivateEye wrote: »

I do love some when some of my mates do the 'Hurr durr Mary Lou with an armalite!' routine in the pub, and think Volunteer Frank Ross was somebody who died in the 1920s :rolleyes:

Pure champagne socialism anyway, not because he has a second job ( Joe Higgins has a slot in the Daily Mail, blahblah....) but because of the economic policies of his party.

Politicians Of The World, Relax!

The history of the stickies and the Labour Party has been more or less forgotten. You'll only hear of Doctor McManus and the Bray business, Volunteer Ross, bogey dollars, gun running and the rest in left-wing pub talks. Note for Sinn Féin: Don't have your photos taken in vans with IRA 'volunteers' and dont sell provocative tshirts, leave the past in the past and get votes.

labour supporter!

Taxipete29

Diarmuid wrote: »

I have to say I think it's irrelevant if they can continue and do the job we are paying them for.

However taking one look at the performance of the Irish political class over the past 30-40 years it's pretty clear that they can't do one job properly, not to mention two. Bertie is the ultimate poster boy for this incompetance.

I have to say I disagree with this statement. In think Bertie and co were extremely good at what they did. They looked after their friends, feathered their own nests, kept themselves in power and convinced people we were one of the richest countries in the world. Job well done imo.

As for the op. You say its not about a socialist having two jobs yet the title of your thread is " Another mock socialist double jobbing". Which is it as your contridicting yourself??

Sleepy

Tbh, I know I'm going to sound like a naieve idealist here but my main problem here is the corruption of the fourth estate. How free and balanced is the media if it's journalists and broadcasters are not only party members but actually elected officials? Did we not learn anything about the dangers of a gagged media during the investigations into Haughey's affairs?

Diarmuid

Taxipete29 wrote: »

I have to say I disagree with this statement. In think Bertie and co were extremely good at what they did. They looked after their friends, feathered their own nests, kept themselves in power and convinced people we were one of the richest countries in the world. Job well done imo.

I know what you are saying, but I don't think that was part of his job description.

Taxipete29

Diarmuid wrote: »

I know what you are saying, but I don't think that was part of his job description.

Agreed

MrMicra

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Lads,look ,get a bit real, it's all about trousering as much dosh as you can.

When you drill down ,as we say in management, that's what comes out.

That's the way I see they operate anyway.

That's right FFlutterin Bantam they're all the same. Except they aren't Fianna Failure are vastly more corrupt and dishonest than any other party.