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The 'Only Built 4 Cuban Linx II - Raekwon' Thread
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25-08-2009 7:07pm#1
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some snippets of the album:
House of Flying Daggers is defo on the album, not sure about the first one, i think that was off a mixtape
and a dre produced track:
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Points as I listen...
*deletes the Papa Wu *****
Meth truly kills House Of Flying Daggers.
'Sonny's Missing' and 'Pyrex Vision' slow things down a bit too much, decent tracks.
'Cold Outside' is nice, particurly the sung vocals.
'Black Mozart nicely produced, Deck and Rae kill it.
Ghost kills 'Gihad', nicely produced all the way so far.
'New Wu', such a god damn banger. Meth still got the nicest flow.
'Penitentiary' pretty meh. Ditto for 'baggin' crack'. 'Surgical Gloves' a little better.
'Broken Safety' is alright as well, Styles nicest. 'Canal Street' has another nice beat, but album middle suffering from lack of Wu guests.
Like the feeling and sentiment to 'Ason Jones'.
'Have Mercy', Beanie nice but beat and hook forgettable.
'10 Bricks' still nice.
'Fat Lady Sings' is nice but too short. 'Catalina' is pretty nice as well, but the drums in particular sound out of place
'We Will Rob You' nice beat, Rae kills it, GZA pretty mediocre, Masta Killa's verse just seems random. Weak hook, where is the Slick Rick verse?
'About Me', I'm assuming this is a Dre beat, nice enough, Busta isn't as annoying as usual, thankfully restrained. The beat sounds a little out of place again, Dre can and needed to do darker stuff than this.
'The Mean Streets', decent beat, Deck again stands out, messy hook though.
'Kiss The Ring', nice up beat way to close the album, definitely one of the superior beats.
Conclusion: Too long, pretty top heavy, Dre's stuff sounds a little off, in need of more Wu features particurly in the pretty meh middle third. Rae stands out when he tells stories (as usual). Take about half a dozen songs out, add bonus and leak tracks, tweak sequencing a bit and there is areally dope album here. As it stands, its a 4/5, about what I expected.
cheers man, looking forward to this now. I've heard reports that it is quite the good album.
I'll give my opinion tomorrow after i've given it a couple of listens.
oh and welcome back Makaveli
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I'll be buying this as well, Cuban Linx 1 sits proudly in my CD collection and there is no reason why II cant join it! Listened to this album a few times today.
So here's my run through of the album.....
Return of the North Star - i really like how this starts, if my memory is correct, it's the last couple of seconds from Cuban Linx 1. It then evolves into it's a new take on the beat. Other than that there are sone more ramblings from Papa Wu. The beat that comes in through the end is also one that Atmosphere samples for Say Hey There.
House Of Flying Daggers - This is the best Wu song I have heard in a long long time. Excellent higher octane beat and excellent lyrics. It reminds me alot of the sound from The W, Triumph springs to mind. Ghosty kills it
Sonny's Missing - nice little song, nice little story, well delivered and well told. Just when the beat starts to go stale the song ends.
Pyrex Vision - A song about cooking, really like this, shows Rae's versatiliy but probably not a song that is needed on the album.
Cold Outside - i absolutely love how rae and ghosty's vocals compliment the singing on this......or is it the other way around. Banger.
Black Mozart - Deck is back to nearly his best on this track. RZA was pretty much pointless to have on this. Nice song though
Gihad - not bad at all, Ghostie is on fire. Nice beat, the chanting really makes it special
New Wu - This song is great....appart from the gunshot noises. Method Man can be so good at times, this is one of those times. I think it all depends on the production and context of the song.
Penitentiary - When this song starts off i immediately think that is has the best production, best lyrics, best concept by far on the album. The back and forth is brilliant between rae and ghost, but it is damaged by the hook and the production gets a tad annoying. It should have been chopped or evolved. But it's a short song so its not so bad overall on the annoyance levels.
Baggin Crack - Another nice little story and nice bouncy beat, no complaints on this one
Surgical Gloves - gunshots - WHY????????? anyway, dont like the beat on this song at all, very annoying
Broken Safety - I'm never normally a fan of Jada or Styles, but they fit this song perfectly, and at midway point on the album they bring some fresh sound to the album that gets you more attentive. The beat is great, it has one of them old school, battle break noises throughout which i love (sounds like yo, yo yo, yo yo yo). And the kung fu noises at the end are great
Canal Street - Its alright, i like the semi acapella part midway through the song
Ason Jones - This is how tribute songs should be written. The word beautiful comes to mind.
Have Mercy - Uses the same sample from the first track, Rae's hook is pretty bad but Blue Rasberry suits this song alot
10 Bricks - Love it, Donna is great, Rae is great, ghost is great
Fat Lady Sings - dope dope dope, short short short
Catalina - dont like the singing on this at all, the drums are those carribean drums, i like them but the song seems out of place on this album.
We Will Rob You - Rick does the intro and the hook on the song, no verse.....but the song is excellent, GZA is super on this, even Masta Killa is good.
About Me - Finally, a decent beat from Dre!! But he can do much better.
Like this song though, Busta actually compliments this song well.
Mean Streets - Sounds like it should be on a Ghostface album, not this. This is one that couldd have been left on the chopping room floor
Kiss The Ring - Not a bad song, and ends a bit abruptly.
Overall it has elements of Cuban Linx 1 and has moved forward onto new pastures. But i think that it has taken some of the wrong elements with it. The abrupt end, the cohession between songs is not the same through the entire album, the track listing should be re-ordered. It has a really strong start, decent middle and an ending that should come sooner.
But it is still a really good album, one of the better ones this year. One thing i like is the short snappy songs, they dont hang around replaying the same loop over and over like some albums. The songs dont fit the 3 verse 3 hook format like most songs these days
On a kind of related note, i was watching and old Herbie movie the other day, you know the ones where Herbie is the VW Beetle that comes to life, anyway, there is a character called Mr. Wu and his company is called Tang Wu 0 -
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