Dublin BJJ Open 2009

inmate2

Dublin BJJ Open 2009
Dublin BJJ Open Sunday the 4th of October.

Team ryano unit 7a kilbarrack ind est Dublin5.
Directions here.
www.teamryano.com

Entry to this tournament is by pre-registration ONLY. Applications received after midnight September 30th will not be processed.

Check ins 10am

If you do not make the weight you will automatically be disqualified from the comp.Rules and weights are as ibjjf.http://www.ibjjf.org/

Liam_B

Great News. Do you know if there will be a youth division?

bella1

there will be if we get enough youths.

wingnut4

hello, is there a female section too or is it person against person rather than gender?

Cheers

inmate2

wingnut4 wrote: »

hello, is there a female section too or is it person against person rather than gender?

Cheers

I think it will go on belt grade not matter what the gender is, all though that might change.:D:D:D

bella1

as with mostcomp we will havea ladies section.
we will see who we have and work from there,all ready we have 2 girls entered a white belt and a blue belt.

wingnut4

make that 3 as im a white belt!

bella1

could stuff good to see more ladies compete.

kerem dino

do you have to post the application forms or can you e mail them to your gmail account?
also is weight with gi or no gi?

thanks

bella1

yes you can email the entry
weigh in with gi on:p

wayne1

This years sponsor is

Black Eagle Martial Arts Equipment:)



http://www.black-eagle.co.uk/

Campbell M

bella1 wrote: »

yes you can email the entry
weigh in with gi on:p

What is the email address we need to send it to?

bella1

the email address is on the entry form on the file on the first post.

Campbell M

Doh!!, Thanks

DubMedic

Have PM'd you there Bella.

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toaldingham

Andy,

How will the purple belt competition work? Is it an aboslute?

Thanks

Ciaran

GBNI

bella1

we will see on the day maybe 2 groups under 80 kgs and over.
we also are doing adults and over 30 so we will see.
we will run the purple belts first.

bella1

entrys coming in fast for this comp ,entry form is on the 1st post
only a week to go .:D

Francis Galvin

we'll be there

Andy,
i sent u a pm


thanks

bella1

guys there will be no entries after next wed so get them in fast.

bella1

entries coming in fast we will do a purple belt division
just open no weight or age.
thanks andy

Liam_B

Andy,
Sent you a PM

bella1

5 purple belts so far should be a good group.

bella1

one day to go ,only entery forms that are fully filled out will be accepted.
no entery on the day and no change of weight.
if you fail the weight your out.
see you all sunday at 10.

colinlaird000

Andy,

Did you get my application ok? I like your clever plan to have us Norn irish get out of bed at a daft time on a sunday to wear us down a bit. clever :P See you Sunday

Killme00

two from IP just submitted

bella1

ye got yours colin.
last day guys
9 purple belts so far should be good

Chris89

Just sent one to the gmail adress.

Chris

bella1

closed see you guys on sunday
first group on will be the purple belts.
be there at 10 to cheak in

bella1

THAKS TO ALL THAT TURNED UP TODAY WE HAD TWICE THE NUMBER WE EXPECTED,BIGGER VENUE NEXT TIME AND AT LEAST 3 OR 4 MATS GOING.
SOME GREAT FIGHTS .
THANKS TO ALL THE GUYS THAT TRAVELED ALONG WAY TO GET HERE.CORK KERRY DONEGAL BELFAST AND THE REST OF THE COUNTRY.

THANKS TO OUR SPONSERS BLACK EAGLE
THE REFS
WAYNE LIAM MICK AND GIT.
PETER KARL AND STEO FOR DOING THE SCORES AND RICHE FOR HELPING OUT WITH THE RUNNING OF THE SHOW.
SOME GREAT CLUBS THERE NOW SO SHOULD BE A GOOD IRISH OPEN LATER THIS YEAR.WE ARE LOOKING FOR A VENUE WITH SEATING.
THANKS TO BARRY OUR MEDIC TO DAY.
CHEERS ANDY

Jason Mc

results?

Campbell M

Ok, here is my review of the event.

The actual fights were very good. The standard of fighters was exceptional (in all belt categories).

The atmosphere around the fights was great.

The refereeing and judging was very well done. Those guys did a great job.

There were some things I think need to be addressed.

Firstly, the venue. Andy has already stated that a larger/different venue would be required for next time and i am glad to hear it. This venue was really responsible for most of the negative points i have (although I am sure it is a great gym).

There was no toilet (well one but it was broken and had a turd floating around in it all day). Even if it had been working it was not enough for the huge number of people present (about 250 i would guess). Given everyone had to pre-register the numbers that were to attend must have been known. I would have liked to have seen this addressed. Just a couple of portaloos outside could have resolved this.

There was only one very small changing room. When hosting a mixed event I think it is a requirement to have a separate changing room for the girls (and preferably a separate toilet also). This could be addressed by just hanging a couple of sheets in one corner to make a small changing room.

I didnt think there were any showers. Someone later told me they thought there was one in the changing area but since this was being used by men and women a shower wasnt really an option anyway and 200 people cant use one shower. If you are trying to get people from all over the country to an event they need to be able to shower.

It wasn't possible to watch the fights because there wasn't room for everyone around the matted area.

Despite the assertion that if you didnt make weight you would be disqualified I never saw anybody weigh-in (including me).

The order of fights was not known so the fighters never knew when to start warming up. I was up quite early and didn't know until my name was called so didn't get to warm up at all. Given the pre-registration I would have liked to have seen the fight list pinned up somewhere on a wall so people knew when they were on like they do at the MMA league.I understand that this can only be done for the first round of each division due to the knockout system in effect.

One of the guys from my team registered but was missed from his division so had to have a single fight against some random guy instead of actually fighting in his division. If the fight list was posted on the wall this could not have happened as he would have pointed it out.

Overall i enjoyed the event. The fights were great and the refereeing/judging was also.

If you are reading this and thinking that it is a pretty negative review (and i should shut the hell up!) it really isn't. The important stuff was done well (refereeing and judging) but I think it is important to mention the areas where changes are needed so that the next event is even better.

cowzerp

The water went in the whole area so that could not be helped in fairness, it was a bummer but was out of the clubs hands.

i thought the event went well outside this..and lessons will be learned and improved on, feedback is important to help this.

bella1

points taken we had 105 people in the gym competing.
we have run events before and there was no problem.

we had 2 changing rooms ,the ofice was used for the ladies.
the guy that missed his fight (one guy out of 105)was called many times and did not turn upwe gave him another chance with a guy out of hi catagory.

in futher the dublin open will be held in a larger venue and we will have more staff for this.

we let guys cheak there weight at the srart and let guys change weight and some guys were entering in 2 different weights.

the weigh ins were meant to happened at each mat but did not happen,as the 2 guys at each mat were over run with things happening.sorry for this.

we tryed to cover most things
we gave out 5 gis to different fighters,had tea and coffe and some sambos there for guys to use.

we have made contact with the guys that run the kent open which has big numbers,(900 last year ithink) they are going to help us out for the next one
(help the refs and the running of the event)

bjj has really growen in the last few years.
thanks again for all that turned up and hope to see you all again.

thanks for the feed back the next one should be good.

ANDY RYAN BJJ REVOLUTION TEAM IRELAND.

r_obric

i gotta agree with what was posted above, but would like to say that we need more comps in ireland and fair play for putting it on, its obviously a lot of hassle and takes a lot of time to organise, when you compete in the uk the level is very high and regularly competing is the best way to develop, the more comps here the better no matter what the facilities

is it worth doing a rules meeting before the comp starts as well, i saw 2 DQ's where fighters genuienly thought what they were doing was ok,

fighters need to be aware of the rules themselves first and foremost, and maybe its more for first timers, but people have different interpretations of whats ok and whats not and if thats clear beforehand people cant argue

again thanks and looking forward to the next one, i heard that there might be a munster open this side of christmas as well......

Nothingcompares

r_obric wrote: »

is it worth doing a rules meeting before the comp starts as well, i saw 2 DQ's where fighters genuienly thought what they were doing was ok,

Standard rules are used. People should know this:

http://www.ibjjf.org/rules.htm wrote:

FROM ADULT THROUGH SENIOR (BLUE & PURPLE BELT)

MATA LEO WITH FOOT

SLAM FROM THE GUARD

LEG LOCKS

CERVICAL(only without chokes)

BICEPS LOCK

CALF LOCK

SCISSORS TAKEDOWN

HEEL HOOK

wingnut4

It was a good day, alot of really talented fighters and it was great to see other ladies there. I was not aware that there was an area for girls to change! I had to strip off behind the ring! lol

It was a wee bit disorganised as the earlier posted said I think, but you can only learn from it. The main problem was the toilet....man i had to hover over it, haha

Anyways a good day and a great turnout. Well done to everyone!

bella1

thanks once again,the rules should be coverd by your club the first couple of bjj events we ran rules meetings as 99% of guys were white belts.
when you go to the uk they dont do a rules meeting.
the teams who were there were around the bjj scene a long time.
any way we can only get better for the next one.
cheers

Hephaestus

Are the results available anywhere?

Pingu

I thought it was ran quite well, fair enough the venue was a little crowded - most events i've been to (judo) halls are always packed out - it's something you deal with, and the water wasn't their fault.

That aside the matches were ran quite seemlessly and the refs were spot on stopping fights before ppl got hurt.

The biggest problems were caused by the competitors from what I could see. Walking across the mats in the middle of fights and sitting too far onto the mats. That's really not the organisers fault, Refs did there best to get the guys off the mats but some ppl just wont listen.

All in all I thought it was a great event, my first BJJ event, got completly out muscled and out classed, but will definately be back. Cheers to Andy & the guys for running it!

toaldingham

Here are a few images from the weekend: http://www.bjj.ie/?p=163

Chris89

I thought the main problem was no notice before your fight, went onto the mat completely cold no warmup.

Other than that i thought it went well given the amount of competitors.

MaeveD

I really enjoyed the day, (well done to our Team Balance guys who were all competing for the first time)

One thing that hasn't been mentioned was the ridiculous sleeve length of one guys jackets, they just about covered his elbows, how did the cheeky feicer get away with it?

Here's looking forward to bigger and better next time

Tim_Murphy

MaeveD wrote: »

One thing that hasn't been mentioned was the ridiculous sleeve length of one guys jackets, they just about covered his elbows, how did the cheeky feicer get away with it?

I have a gi not unlike that. Is that not ok?! :pac:

Killme00

MaeveD wrote: »

One thing that hasn't been mentioned was the ridiculous sleeve length of one guys jackets, they just about covered his elbows, how did the cheeky feicer get away with it?

What division was this in? The only person i seen with short sleevs was a girl who had rolled them up, the ref helped her roll them down for the match though.

MaeveD

Not sure of his weight, maybe middle heavy white belt, camo pants and a white jacket, he fought 3 or 4 times.

Tim, if you say it's ok great...... I'm going out to buy a big scissors

mirwillbeback

Nothingcompares wrote: »

Standard rules are used. People should know this:

Gotta say, as a regular jj trainer, but not in competitions for a few years, I am major surpised that leg locks are not allowed. Am I missing something here ? In the last comp I was in leg locks were legal, but it is a few years ago.

Are calf crushers and the achilles foot lock not allowed? :eek:

I always go for them, can someone clarify

Thanks

Campbell M

It is about having a standard set of rules.

The IBJJF dont allow it for Blue or Purple belts so they are not allowed here either.

It really is better to use a standard rule set as every competition is the same then.

Pingu

Straight Achilles locks were allowed, no other leg locks though.

Roper

Just re: criticisms of the venue.

Firstly Ryano have a great gym that lots of people would kill to have, and it is ideal for small tournaments.

The trouble is that when you take a punt and decide to organise something, you literally don't know how many people will show up. If you do take a stab at it and get a hall and move mats etc. to there, you could end up getting only a handful of competitors and leave yourself out of pocket. People are quite fickle and it only takes one football match to keep half of your competitors at home.

I think things are changing a bit and people seem more willing to compete now though.

Campbell M

Pingu wrote: »

Straight Achilles locks were allowed, no other leg locks though.

are you sure?

List of illegal techniques from http://www.ibjjf.org/rules.htm
FROM ADULT THROUGH SENIOR (BLUE & PURPLE BELT)
MATA LEO WITH FOOT
SLAM FROM THE GUARD
LEG LOCKS
CERVICAL(only without chokes)
BICEPS LOCK
CALF LOCK
SCISSORS TAKEDOWN
HEEL HOOK

In response to Roper i totally understand. Maybe the solution is to have people pay as well as register prior to the event so you know the numbers for sure and can get a venue without risk of being out of pocket. That is certainly how Judo and other sports work. I would be happy enough to do that.