Dissidents setting up checkpoints

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The reappearance of paramilitary checkpoints on the streets of Northern Ireland has been branded sinister and unwelcome.

Masked and armed men illegally stopped cars in Meigh village in the once notorious south Armagh, which was known as 'bandit country' during the Troubles.

Police officers on routine patrol in the area - just outside Newry and only miles from the border with the Irish Republic - spotted the suspicious activity.

It is suspected that dissident republicans trying to assert themselves in the predominantly nationalist village were behind the stunt.

Local Assembly member Dominic Bradley, of the nationalist Social Democratic and Labour Party, said the men were handing out propaganda leaflets to motorists.

"This was an attempt by this group to make themselves relevant," he said. "But most of the people in this area have no tolerance for that type of activity - they didn't in the past and they certainly don't now."

The leaflets warned people not to co-operate with police on both sides of the border, the Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI) and the Garda.

It also advised against people speaking with Sinn Fein or MI5 and carried threats against anti-social behavior and drug-dealing, according to Mr Bradley.

"This is an unwelcome development and harks back to a time which most people here have moved on from and want to leave firmly in the past," he said.

"I am confident that people in the area will not allow this type of activity, which was never welcome, to deter them from moving forward into a better future. I would ask anyone who has any information regarding this incident to convey it to the police without delay."

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090822/tuk-dissidents-checkpoints-condemned-f858358.html

Fcuking fools

jumpguy

I almost get the feeling sometimes people just want to start this up again cause they're bored.

mikemac

Setting up a checkpoint to hand out leaflets?
They only need two people and they could distribute hundreds while people were in Sunday morning mass with far less hassle.
And wow, doing this in a nationalist village.

If they are serious why not test themselves with something more ambitious.

netwhizkid

I'd like to see them try this in East Belfast!! :pac:

My name is URL

They were armed at the time, that's just not acceptable today

Something will happen soon I feel, just because a tiny proportion of people scumbags want it to

Biggins

Small dicks trying to be big boys. Unwanted idiots the lot of them.

ejmaztec

Damn, I'd better cancel that MI5 pub-quiz down the Kneecap Inn. (They only cheat anyway, bastards!):eek:

Hagar

If only we could persuade them to wipe-out the clampers.

humberklog

I wonder was it The Metro or The Morning Herald?

994

They really need to get girlfriends.

fintonie

they are a small number but they are trying to step up there activities,
it will be known who they are in there respected areas and if its not pinched now momentum will get young volunteers involved,
that is when the problem will really surface, no brains and following lunacy = innocent people killed or injured, a small visit is required.

ejmaztec

994 wrote: »

They really need to get girlfriends.

Perhaps this is their unique way of finding them, paramilitary checkpoint speed-dating?

tolosenc

This is a real case of people just not thinking. Ní ceapaim.

An Fear Aniar

Scumbags.

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Adamcp898

Idiots.

El Siglo

Check point you say?
Was it anything like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FaDhnkzqTU

mega man

did the psni do anything about it??

El Siglo

mega man wrote: »

did the psni do anything about it??

Gave out their own leaflets, followed by a swift beating the back of one of those armoured cars. Still though, it's a lotter better than getting shot in the knee caps!:D

mega man

still the same old bandit country..somethings never change

Biggins

mega man wrote: »

did the psni do anything about it??

I'm guessing that by the time they got wind of it and arrived on the scene, the brainless gobschites would have scurried down their rat-holes like the rodents they are.
We are already giving them too much publicity as it is or they deserve!

Idiotic, out of date, scum dressed up in nothing and nowhere to go!

genericguy

fcuk them, can we not just forget about northern ireland? let's save up and get all the out-of-work builders and engineers to slap up an electric fence one night.

the problem in norn iron is that there is a market for these fcuks up there, however small it may be. the main thing that bothers me is that these pricks, if you asked them, wouldn't even know why it is that they're fighting.

nlgbbbblth

Hagar wrote: »

If only we could persuade them to wipe-out the clampers.

or at least kneecap the litter louts

thomond2006

I bet those dissidents are all like Forrest Gump.

El Siglo

thomond2006 wrote: »

I bet those dissidents are all like Forrest Gump.

What, they're retarded and have AIDS?

Biggins

El Siglo wrote: »

What, they're retarded and have AIDS?

Probably and yes, it seems they do have helpers!

brummytom

The reappearance of paramilitary checkpoints on the streets of Northern Ireland has been branded sinister and unwelcome.

Ohhh... it's been branded sinister. It's been condemned.
That'll really show them

El Siglo

Biggins wrote: »

Probably and yes, it seems they do have helpers!

Yeh, sure didn't Martin Ferris help two of them when they were leaving prison.

S-Murph

genericguy wrote: »

the main thing that bothers me is that these pricks, if you asked them, wouldn't even know why it is that they're fighting.

Why do you say that?

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

I'm not going to comment on this issue... i'm afraid... :eek:

fintonie

grow up boys, this **** will keep going as long there is a prick who thinks heees god.
it wont happen and when it needs to be stopped the real men will take care of the situation,
there has been many attempts to try to fuuck up peace or an agreement to let the people live in peace,
it will become 32 time is not of the essence it will happen anyone who tries to stop it at this stage will be null en void

Rebelheart

More interesting in that British "news" bulletin is the comment about the "once notorious south Armagh"

"Notorious" indeed. Such quality impartial journalism.

Edit. Better quality reporting: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/0822/breaking45.htm

FlutterinBantam

Hagar wrote: »

If only we could persuade them to wipe-out the clampers.

And let every fcuker go into town centres and block up parking spaces for the day so the casual visitor can't park anywhere.???

Bit of sense man.

DamoDLK

Rebelheart wrote: »

More interesting in that British "news" bulletin is the comment about the "once notorious south Armagh"

"Notorious" indeed. Such quality impartial journalism.

Edit. Better quality reporting: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/0822/breaking45.htm

"Notorious" = Fair Comment in this case tbh.

fintonie

on reflection after 24 cans, 3 bottles of wine, 1 bottle of black bush and half a bottle of vodka (I couldn't find anything else)

there needs to be anarchy, people have jobs to do and there needs to be someone there to give them work that is there main purpose.

doctors, solicitors, police, army, fire service, auto manufactures, ditch diggers, pizza takeaways, firework manufacturers, fertilizer manufacturers, prison officers, clerks, judges, juries, council workers,furneral homes, florest, the amount of work created by these people should not be brushed aside, the knee making industry has hit an all time low over the last ten years, where is the sense in that.

i'm sure there are many more I have not mentioned.

Adamisconfused

mega man wrote: »

did the psni do anything about it??

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/8216231.stm

"Police said a patrol witnessed the men stopping vehicles in the Meigh area near Newry on Friday evening.

A PSNI spokesperson said the patrol pulled back to allow the situation to be fully evaluated."


Wow! Just wow.
Why would the PSNI admit to this cowardice? It's surreal.

Biggins

Adamisconfused wrote: »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/8216231.stm

"Police said a patrol witnessed the men stopping vehicles in the Meigh area near Newry on Friday evening.

A PSNI spokesperson said the patrol pulled back to allow the situation to be fully evaluated."


Wow! Just wow.
Why would the PSNI admit to this cowardice? It's surreal.

Get a grip and stop trying to slander the PSNI!

ONLY an idiots would go up to a bunch of brainless masked scumbags with sub-machine guns and ask the equivalent of "What are you doing here lads!"
If these scum even had half a brain, they would have had lookouts/spotters a distance off too.
The police would know this and if they didn't they would have at least to stand back and assess if this was the case, assess what type of military hardware were they facing, assess what equipment is needed in order to tackle the scum and what methods are best used and from what direction should they approach, in order to deal with the situation, etc.

If one is crazy enough (as a police person) to go wandering up to these lads without first using the head, you'd deserve to get your ass blown off!
Have a bit of kop-on. This was a first incident of this kind for some time.
The legal authorities in the form of police are not going to go blundering in like brainless idiots.
Jeeze... the all too quick to slag mentality of some people!

The PSNI wear a uniform, you can see their faces, you can get their number and station, etc.
The REAL cowardice is from these unwanted scumbags cowering behind their masks on dark night roads, then scurrying away into the fields like rats.
Yea, they are the real cowards! Fcuk off the lot of them! SCUM!!!

fintonie

scum is a very lose terminology there is history here,

I do want to see peace but ranting and using scum as a word to banter just dont fix the problem,

what is there reasons why do they feel the need to cause upset,

I would think there is at least one person within there midst thinking the right thing.

Adamisconfused

Biggins wrote: »

Get a grip and stop trying to slander the PSNI!

ONLY an idiots would go up to a bunch of brainless masked scumbags with sub-machine guns and ask the equivalent of "What are you doing here lads!"
If these scum even had half a brain, they would have had lookouts/spotters a distance off too.
The police would know this and if they didn't they would have at least to stand back and access if this was the case, assess what type of military hardware were they facing, assess what equipment is needed in order to tackle the scum and what methods are best used and from what direction should they approach, in order to deal with the situation, etc.

If one is crazy enough (as a police person) to go wandering up to these lads without first using the head, you'd deserve to get your ass blown off!
Have a bit of kop-on. This was a first incident of this kind for some time.
The legal authorities in the form of police are not going to go blundering in like brainless idiots.
Jeeze... the all too quick to slag mentality of some people!

The PSNI wear a uniform, you can see their faces, you can get their number and station, etc.
The REAL cowardice is from these unwanted scumbags cowering behind their masks on dark night roads, then scurrying away into the fields like rats.
Yea, they are the real cowards! Fcuk off the lot of them! SCUM!!!

What is the police force for?

Where did they go and why didn’t they come back with reinforcements?
It’s cowardice; pure and simple. They ran away. The dissidents walked into a bar and handed out leaflets before setting up a checkpoint outside. Plenty of time to seal the border and get people in to deal with criminals.
If these people are a threat to the community then how can you say that the police did the right thing by not dealing with the situation and simply leaving the community in the hands of people you even call scum? What do you think would have happened twenty years ago if an IRA checkpoint was found?
Slander? :rolleyes:
If they can’t do their job then they’re failures. It’s as simple as that. I’d be angry beyond belief if the Gardaí had not tried to respond in some way if these people were south of the border. I’m not talking about the first few to spot the dissidents. I’m referring to getting people in who could do the job. Even if they got away, I'd be happy that something was being done.
In this case, it seems the PSNI did nothing except reverse up the road and speed away from the people they're meant to be arresting.


EDIT: Also, this is not the first incident in a long time. From politics.ie, I've read of two more IRA checkpoints in Fermanagh in recent months. Surely, the police must have protocols to deal with these situations. If not, then they’re incompetent and not the guardians of society I once thought.

My name is URL

fintonie wrote: »

scum is a very lose terminology there is history here,

I do want to see peace but ranting and using scum as a word to banter just dont fix the problem,

what is there reasons why do they feel the need to cause upset,

I would think there is at least one person within there midst thinking the right thing.

Hell, of all the groups of people that get called scum here, these guys deserve the title.

They think they can undermine the dedication of most republicans and the work that has gone into securing a peaceful life for people on both sides of the border. That's more than scummy

I'm all for an integrated Ireland but what's the point in resorting to these tactics to achieve it?

There'll always be one group that sinks to a deeper level of intimidating people to get what they want if this behavior is allowed to continue

fintonie

My name is URL wrote: »

Hell, of all the groups of people that get called scum here, these guys deserve the title.

They think they can undermine the dedication of most republicans and the work that has gone into securing a peaceful life for people on both sides of the border. That's more than scummy

I'm all for an integrated Ireland but what's the point in resorting to these tactics to achieve it?

There will always be one group that sinks to a deeper level of intimidating people to get what they want if this behavior is allowed to continue

so when the IRA were using these tactics it was ok (I say this in the best possible way) it is not sorted yet a reminder of what was and what could be is importent,

do you think its time to hope and belive in what is an all Ireland state or are you happy with it as it stands.

upthedub

Biggins wrote: »

Small dicks trying to be big boys. Unwanted idiots the lot of them.

Do you no them personally????

netwhizkid wrote: »

I'd like to see them try this in East Belfast!! :pac:

Why what you "think" would happen??

My name is URL

fintonie wrote: »

so when the IRA were using these tactics it was ok (I say this in the best possible way) it is not sorted yet a reminder of what was and what could be is importent,

do you think its time to hope and belive in what is an all Ireland state or are you happy with it as it stands.

We're a lot better of now than we were in the 70's, imo

There's a fine line between illegal checkpoints and armed patrols on the border, surely you don't want to go back to the dark days..?

History is what it is, it's how we deal with the future that's going to matter

Kalashnikov_Kid

Adamisconfused wrote: »

What is the police force for?

Where did they go and why didn’t they come back with reinforcements?
It’s cowardice; pure and simple. They ran away. The dissidents walked into a bar and handed out leaflets before setting up a checkpoint outside. Plenty of time to seal the border and get people in to deal with criminals.
If these people are a threat to the community then how can you say that the police did the right thing by not dealing with the situation and simply leaving the community in the hands of people you even call scum? What do you think would have happened twenty years ago if an IRA checkpoint was found?
Slander? :rolleyes:
If they can’t do their job then they’re failures. It’s as simple as that. I’d be angry beyond belief if the Gardaí had not tried to respond in some way if these people were south of the border. I’m not talking about the first few to spot the dissidents. I’m referring to getting people in who could do the job. Even if they got away, I'd be happy that something was being done.
In this case, it seems the PSNI did nothing except reverse up the road and speed away from the people they're meant to be arresting.


EDIT: Also, this is not the first incident in a long time. From politics.ie, I've read of two more IRA checkpoints in Fermanagh in recent months. Surely, the police must have protocols to deal with these situations. If not, then they’re incompetent and not the guardians of society I once thought.

Ever see the Gardai storm Moyross? No me neither. I'm not condoning what the dissidents are doing, but the RUC/PSNI have struggled to control what goes on in South Armagh for decades, so they are obviously going to be a bit selective in how to approach this, especially when many members of the 'community' would be somewhat more sympathetic to republicans rather than the PSNI, so dont just expect blanket arrests (rightly or wrongly) to be made at a whim.

upthedub

Illegal???

Its similar to the brittish setting up checkpoints in iraq isnt it??Or what is the difference...?

brummytom

upthedub wrote: »

Illegal???

Its similar to the brittish setting up checkpoints in iraq isnt it??Or what is the difference...?

No. Whether you think that war was illegal or not (it was), it's still sanctioned by official bodies.

Illegal checkpoints on the border by a few morons in a wooly hat with eyeholes is nowhere near the same thing.

upthedub

brummytom wrote: »

No. Whether you think that war was illegal or not (it was), it's still sanctioned by official bodies.

Illegal checkpoints on the border by a few morons in a wooly hat with eyeholes is nowhere near the same thing.

Morons..:rolleyes:

Maybe there sick of the brittish sticking there noses in everywere and want to show them a few lessons...;)

fintonie

My name is URL wrote: »

We're a lot better of now than we were in the 70's, imo

There's a fine line between illegal checkpoints and armed patrols on the border, surely you don't want to go back to the dark days..?

History is what it is, it's how we deal with the future that's going to matter

history creates the future, to disconcert the past is keeping us in the present but your entitled to your opinion as much of a killer it may be

brummytom

upthedub wrote: »

Morons..:rolleyes:

Maybe there sick of the brittish sticking there noses in everywere and want to show them a few lessons...;)

Yes, Morons. Not 'Freedom Fighters', Morons.

You can read through my post history, I've made it quite clear that I would have been on the side of the republicans/IRA during the 'troubles', don't presume just because I'm British by birth that I support or condone the actions this government carried out during that time.

But that was the past, Northern Ireland is a hell of a lot better off now. Sure, there's still high tensions in certain areas (my best mates uncle was beaten to within an inch of his life in Belfast a few weeks ago purely for being Catholic) but it's still nowhere near on a par with what it was.
There, from what I gather from relations up there, is barely any British presence remains.

People who want to drag the place back into war don't deserve respect, support or oxygen.

fintonie

brummytom wrote: »

Yes, Morons. Not 'Freedom Fighters', Morons.

You can read through my post history, I've made it quite clear that I would have been on the side of the republicans/IRA during the 'troubles', don't presume just because I'm British by birth that I support or condone the actions this government carried out during that time.

But that was the past, Northern Ireland is a hell of a lot better off now. Sure, there's still high tensions in certain areas (my best mates uncle was beaten to within an inch of his life in Belfast a few weeks ago purely for being Catholic) but it's still nowhere near on a par with what it was.
There, from what I gather from relations up there, is barely any British presence remains.

you were lucky he is still alive, have you got an answer to the end.
People who want to drag the place back into war don't deserve respect, support or oxygen.

Biggins

Kalashnikov_Kid wrote: »

Ever see the Gardai storm Moyross? No me neither. I'm not condoning what the dissidents are doing, but the RUC/PSNI have struggled to control what goes on in South Armagh for decades, so they are obviously going to be a bit selective in how to approach this, especially when many members of the 'community' would be somewhat more sympathetic to republicans rather than the PSNI, so dont just expect blanket arrests (rightly or wrongly) to be made at a whim.

Yep but sadly some clearly don't get that. They are still living in the dark ages of thinking and doing things. Didn't work for them then and its not working for them now.
The people of Ireland don't want them or want anything to do with them.
They can run around like face covered rats all they want in the dark. The only people they are really fooling is themselves and clearly, with they operating in the dark, that's as far as their foresight and intelligence can extent to. Just not far enough to see the light, any light of intelligence!
The IRA was supposedly the best terrorist army in Ireland at the time - and even they (the vast majority of their members/units) kopped themselves on and saw what was working, what wasn't and what the people supported and didn't!

These scurrying rats will get as far as they have gotten already, dark country land and hedgerows.
Their actions are just laughable and they are the biggest sad joke of all!

fintonie

it will happen all Ireland get used to it snap