Losing Faith in People and Life

DigiGal

Hi guys, sorry for posting another thread already...

I'm starting to totally lose faith in the human race. After reading some of the threads here people seem to have no empathy at all

There are people giving out about poor people not learning how to type and getting real jobs and degrees
Then People saying if ya can't afford college just don't go, all students are wasters etc etc
I'm not a waster I don't get pissed all the time, I worked really hard to get into college its not my fault I can't afford fees

people giving out about tipping delivery men, people hate poor people,hate rich people hate young people

i don't understand why I should have it held against me for being 18 instead of 34, I'm a good person and try to help everyone out as best i can and be nice. I don't get a society where having a degree is a stigma

People are so self absorbed. People give you nothing but smart arsed replies for everything...climate change (Uh its not real ya hippy)
Finance(uh tax payers pay for your college) work(get a part time job, uh all the people taking my jobs fcuking teenagers) You are stupid
cause you are young(I actually happen to be quite intelligent and hard working)

I mean look at the state of the country, they take money out of healthcare and education, everyone complains about the government but if you try and do anything peole call you a hippy and an activist

i am sick of peole being such cnuts all the time. Yesterday i was walking across the road and I didn't even look where I was going...I don't see the point in being alive if the world is this way

Eve_Dublin

Hey OP....yep, I'm 10 years older than you and I often feel the same but I've come to the conclusion that the cnuts tend to be more vocal about their opinions than those who just get on with their lives and do the best they can. I truly believe there are more good people out there than bad (or at least people who choose to be good and not bad...think we're ALL capable of being a cnut from time to time) and I've managed to surround myself with good people in my life and try my very best to ignore the cnuts. It can be tough sometimes...particularly when the smartarse "haters" insist on venting their ignorant, ill-informed, stupid opinions any chance they get.

PI is a good example. I'd say most people who post on here are good people trying to help someone in trouble. Look through the posts...a vast majority of people here have their heart in the right place, their views might be different to yours but they mean well and were all entitled to a different opinion and just because they differ to your own, it doesn't make them a bad person. It's only a handful that act like complete cnuts but their views stick in your mind more than others because they've riled you up so much, hit a sore spot with their stupidity and ignorance and are not easily ignored, unfortunately.

I've got a temper and find myself rising to the bait easily and it's something I'm training myself to keep in check and teaching myself to get some perpective...these a-holes are only the tiny minority compared to the rest of us (yes..I count myself among the good guys!!)...try and focus on the good in the world and in others and conciously try and not let yourself get caught up in their negativity. I know I sound like a hippy but after a bit of a bad patch in my life, I did some meditation classes, which I use when I'm feeling like you do. I can't tell you how to do it over boards but it's all about concentrating on those you love and those you dislike or even hate and forgiving them and trying to understand that they have their reasons for being the way they are and just accepting them and getting on with life. Maybe you should give it a go if this is really upsetting you. There's a lot to be said for all this hippy-dippy-hoo-ha!

Just try and remember MOST people ARE essentially decent, they're just less vocal about it than those who aren't.

DigiGal

Hey Eve,

I'm glad someone feels the same although i feel i'm a little young to be so cynical and bitter...

there is no shame in being a it of a hippy either

Its so hard to ignore the cnuts when they are you own family, I have to say my grandmother is one of the nastiest, bitchiest people i've ever met. I alwasy thought a fmailky are meant to love each other, my OH's family are so normal and nice to each other all the time, my family do nothing but talk about me cause I dress a bit different,
because I'm going to art college instead of medical school. etc etc...#
maybe I should try meditiation

Eve_Dublin

DigiGal wrote: »

Hey Eve,

I'm glad someone feels the same although i feel i'm a little young to be so cynical and bitter...

there is no shame in being a it of a hippy either

Its so hard to ignore the cnuts when they are you own family, I have to say my grandmother is one of the nastiest, bitchiest people i've ever met. I alwasy thought a fmailky are meant to love each other, my OH's family are so normal and nice to each other all the time, my family do nothing but talk about me cause I dress a bit different,
because I'm going to art college instead of medical school. etc etc...#
maybe I should try meditiation

Listen, I don't want to patronise you either DigiGirl and I'm not judging you because of your age...you sound like you've got your head screwed on and you sound a bit like me when I was 18. It's funny, I was speaking to my step-mother about this this morning. I was putting a bag together of all my old clothes I wore in my teens for charity (couldn't bare to part with them because of the memories so had them in my parent's attic)...I was a bit like you when I was 18...I wore this massive sheep-skin coat, huge shoes with thick soles and massive, massive flares, nose ring..I think I was going for the indie-hippy-boho look or something. I looked deadly, if I may say so myself but I got such a hard time walking around my hometown (I'm from a small town), my dad completely despaired of me but I carried on wearing the clothes even though I was laughed at constantly. I got my lip pierced but that was the last straw for my dad and I had to take it out...he wished I could just be normal. I was saying to my step-mam that it was no wonder I was laughed at wearing these clothes and I was drawing attention to myself. She said I had some balls to dress like I did and to have the courage to be a little bit original, particularly at that age when you're self-conscious enough as it is...she had a good point.

Once again, I apologise for being patronising but I wouldn't want to be 18 again. It's a tough age for everyone...it's your first proper year of adulthood and the transition is hard to deal with because you still might feel like a child. It's the age I realised (although I suspected it before) that my own family were not perfect and could do no wrong like I thought as a child but they were, in fact, human and very capable of making mistakes and being nasty just like anyone else. I was always arguing with my dad and comparing our relationship to my friends'. I expected perfection from him and was disappointed when he didn't deliver it.

All I can say is the world is not fair OP...I still find it hard to come to terms with that and I'm disgusted on a daily basis how humans carry on (the minority). It's a horrible lesson to learn and hard to accept. You have to learn to throw your family some slack because unlike your friends, you can't choose them....you're stuck with them 'till the day you die (and you will outlive your granny and parents). Life is too short to be wasting your energy disliking people, particularly family. Rise above it, ignore it, do your own thing and even though you can't choose your family, do you best and surround yourself with good friends because you get to choose them.

Give the meditation a go, maybe.

DigiGal

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

Listen, I don't want to patronise you either DigiGirl and I'm not judging you because of your age...you sound like you've got your head screwed on and you sound a bit like me when I was 18. It's funny, I was speaking to my step-mother about this this morning. I was putting a bag together of all my old clothes I wore in my teens for charity (couldn't bare to part with them because of the memories so had them in my parent's attic)...I was a bit like you when I was 18...I wore this massive sheep-skin coat, huge shoes with thick soles and massive, massive flares, nose ring..I think I was going for the indie-hippy-boho look or something. I looked deadly, if I may say so myself but I got such a hard time walking around my hometown (I'm from a small town), my dad completely despaired of me but I carried on wearing the clothes even though I was laughed at constantly. I got my lip pierced but that was the last straw for my dad and I had to take it out...he wished I could just be normal. I was saying to my step-mam that it was no wonder I was laughed at wearing these clothes and I was drawing attention to myself. She said I had some balls to dress like I did and to have the courage to be a little bit original, particularly at that age when you're self-conscious enough as it is...she had a good point.

Once again, I apologise for being patronising but I wouldn't want to be 18 again. It's a tough age for everyone...it's your first proper year of adulthood and the transition is hard to deal with because you still might feel like a child. It's the age I realised (although I suspected it before) that my own family were not perfect and could do no wrong like I thought as a child but they were, in fact, human and very capable of making mistakes and being nasty just like anyone else. I was always arguing with my dad and comparing our relationship to my friends'. I expected perfection from him and was disappointed when he didn't deliver it.

All I can say is the world is not fair OP...I still find it hard to come to terms with that and I'm disgusted on a daily basis how humans carry on (the minority). It's a horrible lesson to learn and hard to accept. You have to learn to throw your family some slack because unlike your friends, you can't choose them....you're stuck with them 'till the day you die (and you will outlive your granny and parents). Life is too short to be wasting your energy disliking people, particularly family. Rise above it, ignore it, do your own thing and even though you can't choose your family, do you best and surround yourself with good friends because you get to choose them.

Give the meditation a go, maybe.

I'm afraid my parents and brother have all passed away, I'm not actually related to my grandparents at all, they were stuck looking after me and aren't very happy about it, i've pretty much looked after myself the whole time anyway.
You aren't being patronising

Eve_Dublin

DigiGal wrote: »

I'm afraid my parents and brother have all passed away, I'm not actually related to my grandparents at all, they were stuck looking after me and aren't very happy about it, i've pretty much looked after myself the whole time anyway.
You aren't being patronising

Ah God OP...I'm really sorry to hear that. That's tough for anyone to have to deal with. I'm really not sure what to say to you only I think your a credit to yourself for being a good, kind, intelligent, sensitive person. I'm not sure how I would've turned out in your circumstances. It's no wonder you see the world as you do....you've had it tougher than most, much tougher than me by a long, long shot. I suppose it's easier for me to tell you to accept the world is not a fair place...you know only too well. Respect to you for being as strong as you are. Look after yourself, hun.

RandolphEsq

DigiGal wrote: »

Hi guys, sorry for posting another thread already...

I'm starting to totally lose faith in the human race. After reading some of the threads here people seem to have no empathy at all

There are people giving out about poor people not learning how to type and getting real jobs and degrees
Then People saying if ya can't afford college just don't go, all students are wasters etc etc
I'm not a waster I don't get pissed all the time, I worked really hard to get into college its not my fault I can't afford fees

people giving out about tipping delivery men, people hate poor people,hate rich people hate young people

i don't understand why I should have it held against me for being 18 instead of 34, I'm a good person and try to help everyone out as best i can and be nice. I don't get a society where having a degree is a stigma

People are so self absorbed. People give you nothing but smart arsed replies for everything...climate change (Uh its not real ya hippy)
Finance(uh tax payers pay for your college) work(get a part time job, uh all the people taking my jobs fcuking teenagers) You are stupid
cause you are young(I actually happen to be quite intelligent and hard working)

I mean look at the state of the country, they take money out of healthcare and education, everyone complains about the government but if you try and do anything peole call you a hippy and an activist

i am sick of peole being such cnuts all the time. Yesterday i was walking across the road and I didn't even look where I was going...I don't see the point in being alive if the world is this way

Just forget trying to change the world, but never let it change you. Always stay as you are and immerse yourself in 'distractions' to the harsh realities of life e.g.writing, procrastinating, reading, making music, talking and laughing with people you get on with, cooking, loving, playing sport, travelling, meeting new people. Life is a tragedy, but living shouldn't have to be

JonathanAnon

I wouldnt judge the world by the postings you see on a web forum. Immature people feel powerful and brave because of the anonymity and tend to say whatever they want. So I would take postings with a pinch of salt.

Regarding people in other areas of like, there are lot of bad people and good people, you just have to disassociate yourself from people you dont like and move out of the circles they operate in so that you dont have to deal with them. There's enough cnuts out there to piss you off for every day of the week if you indulge them.

NickNolte

It's a big, bad world out there. You just have to roll with the punches unfortunately. You'll meet plenty of dickheads along the way. The trick is that, if you're a good person, you don't let them change that by becoming bitter and angry. By all means pass judgement but don't allow it to effect the way you interact with others.

The world is generally a good place though. If you're serious about not caring about getting hit by a car when crossing the road then I would suggest there's a deeper issue at the core of this thread then just 'nasty people'.

As for certain posters who see themselves as 'one of the good guys' and who look down their noses at others who's opinions they don't agree with (be they positive or negative)... don't fall into that trap either, OP. It's just self perpetuating egotism masquerading as decency. You'll be defined by your actions and interactions... not by how 'nice' you think you are.

Ickle Magoo

DigiGal wrote: »

Hi guys, sorry for posting another thread already...

I'm starting to totally lose faith in the human race. After reading some of the threads here people seem to have no empathy at all

There are people giving out about poor people not learning how to type and getting real jobs and degrees
Then People saying if ya can't afford college just don't go, all students are wasters etc etc
I'm not a waster I don't get pissed all the time, I worked really hard to get into college its not my fault I can't afford fees

people giving out about tipping delivery men, people hate poor people,hate rich people hate young people

i don't understand why I should have it held against me for being 18 instead of 34, I'm a good person and try to help everyone out as best i can and be nice. I don't get a society where having a degree is a stigma

People are so self absorbed. People give you nothing but smart arsed replies for everything...climate change (Uh its not real ya hippy)
Finance(uh tax payers pay for your college) work(get a part time job, uh all the people taking my jobs fcuking teenagers) You are stupid
cause you are young(I actually happen to be quite intelligent and hard working)

I mean look at the state of the country, they take money out of healthcare and education, everyone complains about the government but if you try and do anything peole call you a hippy and an activist

i am sick of peole being such cnuts all the time. Yesterday i was walking across the road and I didn't even look where I was going...I don't see the point in being alive if the world is this way

People tend to base their views on their own experiences. You consider yourself a good person and so do they. The only difference is they have had different experiences than you have and that has moulded their view of others in a particular field or demographic.

I'd take with a pinch of salt anyone who uses the word "hate" to describe anyone or anything they don't know. I'd also assume that when people say "students" or "hippies" they have a very narrow definition of the world in which everything must be easily compartmentalised as black or white - and dismiss it.

Depressingly, there are millions of people in the world with all manner of racist, homophobic, sectarian, irrational, begrudging, etc, etc, etc views and one of the best reasons to look when you cross the road is to ensure there is one more of us than them in the world.

Overheal

DigiGal wrote: »

Hi guys, sorry for posting another thread already...

I'm starting to totally lose faith in the human race. After reading some of the threads here people seem to have no empathy at all

There are people giving out about poor people not learning how to type and getting real jobs and degrees
Then People saying if ya can't afford college just don't go, all students are wasters etc etc
I'm not a waster I don't get pissed all the time, I worked really hard to get into college its not my fault I can't afford fees

people giving out about tipping delivery men, people hate poor people,hate rich people hate young people

i don't understand why I should have it held against me for being 18 instead of 34, I'm a good person and try to help everyone out as best i can and be nice. I don't get a society where having a degree is a stigma

People are so self absorbed. People give you nothing but smart arsed replies for everything...climate change (Uh its not real ya hippy)
Finance(uh tax payers pay for your college) work(get a part time job, uh all the people taking my jobs fcuking teenagers) You are stupid
cause you are young(I actually happen to be quite intelligent and hard working)

I mean look at the state of the country, they take money out of healthcare and education, everyone complains about the government but if you try and do anything peole call you a hippy and an activist

i am sick of peole being such cnuts all the time. Yesterday i was walking across the road and I didn't even look where I was going...I don't see the point in being alive if the world is this way

Friend HEllo! and welcome to your 1/4 life crisis.

Most of us were empathetic and loving when we were 18 odd. Where the hell do you think me name comes from?

You'll realise soon enough though, you cant win every battle. If you walked through Dublin tomorrow, you'd probably be able to tick off a thousand different scenarios in which you could be helpful and really make someones day. From that, you'll begin to understand why people pick their battles.

I'll agree with you in one key area though: the average person I've noticed over the years, really doesnt give a damn. The most someone will do is report something in AH. We will gripe about it for a while. Complain how [your, but sometimes my] gov't is corrupt and yet nobody seems to want to do anything about it. etc.

The other thing you have to understand, is we're not all serious. I love the phrase God Damn Hippie. Doesnt mean I never smoked. But then again, I never chained myself to a tree neither. I do have the sandals though...

Truth of the matter is most people are compassionate when it matters. And we face those situations from time to time. Maybe you pull over to help someone change their tyre, Or a complete stranger bandages you up after you take a spill cycling down their road (thats happened to me). Just because someone's an asshole most of the time doesnt make them an asshole all of the time. Bouncers might be douches but what you didnt see was that girl he protected from that total prick, or the 2 kids he goes home to.

I've got but one pair of eyes and the world is vast indeed.