Shower enclosure advice please...

Eurorunner

I'm ripping out a bath and replacing with a shower. Need to get a shower enclosure. Only thing is whilst the most suitable enclosure is 1000mm X 700mm, that leaves a gap of 100mm as one of the walls is only 600mm. Do I have to buy some sort of customised enclosure or what is the fix for this?

mazthespark

is it that the gap between two walls is 700mm? could you get a 750mm or 800mm tray and dig some out of the wall? then just fill it back once you have the tray fitted? i know it sounds like hard work but is the best way out of it

Eurorunner

mazthespark wrote: »

is it that the gap between two walls is 700mm? could you get a 750mm or 800mm tray and dig some out of the wall? then just fill it back once you have the tray fitted? i know it sounds like hard work but is the best way out of it

Not quite. Its that the wall at the end doesnt come out far enough. The minimum width enclosure I can get is 700mm (as far as im aware ...although not sure I would want it any narrower anyways) - but the wall only comes out 600mm from the corner.
Otherwise to compensate, I have gone for a rectangular shower - going 1000mm in the other direction. Only issue then is can I get a shower enclosure that caters for this 100mm piece of enclosure that will be needed to meet up with the tiled wall?

mazthespark

could you forget about a shower tray and either 1 build your own or do a wet room style tray and just slope your floor towards a trap in the corner

gorwanvfr

Build a false wall, (Stud wall) that way you can hide all the pipe work inside the new wall save you having to chase out a solid wall.

Joey the lips

You cannot get a shower tray less than 700mm. The 2 most popular tray sizes for a bath removal are 1000x700 or 760 and 800 or 900 Quad

Additionally although its done i would avoid wetrooms upstairs if i were you. People usually use cheap solutions and if you use a dear on it would be cheaper to change your bathroom around to make a bigger tray suit.

Have you looked at actually changing your bathroom around? Sometimes sinple solutions are hard to see when your mind is set on one way.

Hope this helps

mazthespark

is the bathroom upstairs or downstairs? ya i agree with joey. would re arranging be an option to fit it in?

Eurorunner

Joey the lips wrote: »

You cannot get a shower tray less than 700mm

Yes, I didn't think so - and i don;t think I would want that anyways - as it simply wouldnt be functional if it was any narrower than 700mm.

Joey the lips wrote: »

Additionally although its done i would avoid wetrooms upstairs if i were you.

No...thats not an option in this instance.

Joey the lips wrote: »

Have you looked at actually changing your bathroom around? Sometimes sinple solutions are hard to see when your mind is set on one way.

Its a very small bathroom in a semi-d. Can't see any other way to be honest.

gorwanvfr wrote:

Build a false wall, (Stud wall) that way you can hide all the pipe work inside the new wall save you having to chase out a solid wall.

Thanks but thats not really an option either. Space is too tight. The door is just behind it.
@mazthespark: Bathroom is upstairs.

mazthespark

mite be a stupid idea but could u get one made for yourself? or make one in situ. obviously wouldnt look like a normal shower tray but im sure your not the first person to try this. could get one built out of stainless steel or something like that? seen one built somewhere before will see if i can find a pic of one

mazthespark

http://livinghouse.co.uk/acatalog/shower-tray-black-mosaic.jpg
could u build something like that. use a waterproof membrane on the floor and wrapped up the sides of tray and up the wall then tile over?? mitent be suited upstairs maybe tho

Joey the lips

If you could take a couple of pictures I might be able to give you some ideas.

skingtile

you can fit 700 and make up the differance with a piece of clear perspex at the window if the height allows. or you can a D shaped shower, often done with moving the toilet for a total new look bathroom.see pic

Eurorunner

skingtile wrote: »

you can fit 700 and make up the differance with a piece of clear perspex at the window if the height allows.

Hi. Its not a window - but would be a complete length that would be required from top to bottom - theres a shortfall of wall of 140mm.

skingtile wrote: »

you can a D shaped shower, often done with moving the toilet for a total new look bathroom.see pic

Yes - this *might* be a solution. I'm not sure how it would look (the rounded side of it is going to come very close to the existing right angled wall) - and I will have to be very careful in measuring this out accurately as not much space to work with. I will also have to move shower/wiring from one wall to the other - something I will have to discuss with plumber (he's also a sparks so at least thats handy).

skingtile

seems a tricky one, can you post a rough sketch with measurements

Eurorunner

skingtile wrote: »

seems a tricky one, can you post a rough sketch with measurements

Will come back with measurements but for now, heres a pic that gives some idea of the space available.
Currently, shower in bath - set on wall adjacent to the doorway. Bath to come out but a rectangular shower 700x1000 will mean that the shower comes out to the edge of the bath as seen in the photo. Theres no wall at this end to account for the 140mm of shortfall. If I put it in the opposite corner, electrics have to be moved. Also, still have problem as window comes into play within that 700mm width.
Need to get my head around whether that 700*900mm D shaped shower you suggested will fit - and how it will look...

Joey the lips

Would need to see more. Is your window over the toilet?

Eurorunner

Joey the lips wrote: »

Is your window over the toilet?

Yes, thats right. Its directly above it but if i put the shower that end (assuming the wiring can be redone to facilitate this), the cill encroaches on that 700mm width needed for the shower...so I would still have to get some type of 'infill panel' in order to totally enclose it.

Joey the lips

Why dont you look at bringing the wall nearest me out another 100mm. This can be done with glass blocks to improve the look then you can put a 1200 x 700 shower tray in or you can put a 1000 x 700 shower tray and still be left with a bit of space for a cabinet,

I also think the D shapped shower would be a great idea here as mentioned above. This is 1000mm across and avaibale from

www.imageshowers.ie

skingtile

you actually have three options, least expensive easiest, if you have some spare tiles or can get them, fix 2 4 by 2 to end wall, cover in wbp ply and you will have enough wall for enclosure of c
hoosing ,would recommend offset quad, left hand opening 800 by 1000 or 1200 pic, sorry this is right hand ope but you get the drift

Joey the lips

skingtile wrote: »

you actually have three options, least expensive easiest, if you have some spare tiles or can get them, fix 2 4 by 2 to end wall, cover in wbp ply and you will have enough wall for enclosure of c
hoosing ,would recommend offset quad, left hand opening 800 by 1000 or 1200 pic, sorry this is right hand ope but you get the drift

+1 like this option aswell.

jaggiebunnet

sorry for the thread hijack but if you get any recommendations for someone to do this (i am in cork area) could you pass them on as I am looking at something similar. cheers.

skingtile

if you are consiering a total makeover can recommend, please state extent of project.
www.bathroombliss.info

Eurorunner

jaggiebunnet wrote: »

sorry for the thread hijack but if you get any recommendations for someone to do this (i am in cork area) could you pass them on as I am looking at something similar. cheers.

@jaggie: sorry but other side of country so can't help you out.

I think I've found a solution that will save me going to the bother of altering the wall. Have found this circular corner unit. Just waiting to hear back from them as regards at what point enclosure meets wall on either side. If i'm lucky, will not have to move shower either.
Have not been able to source a similar product strangely...

Joey the lips

Eurorunner wrote: »

@jaggie: sorry but other side of country so can't help you out.

I think I've found a solution that will save me going to the bother of altering the wall. Have found this circular corner unit. Just waiting to hear back from them as regards at what point enclosure meets wall on either side. If i'm lucky, will not have to move shower either.
Have not been able to source a similar product strangely...

Yes but they are a min of 800 out from the wall. Vogue bathrooms does an expensive version of them in ireland. Have a look at them I dont think that will do. The D shapped one is the only way bar a wall

Eurorunner

Joey the lips wrote: »

Yes but they are a min of 800 out from the wall. Vogue bathrooms does an expensive version of them in ireland. Have a look at them I dont think that will do. The D shapped one is the only way bar a wall

I really hope they curve in further than that. They are 850 out each direction - at the apex of the curve. It looks like they curve in much more...waiting from two different suppliers for confirmation.
If it doesn't, its a shame. There must be many more people living in boxes where space is tight like this. Can't afford the complication, expense or time with messing with the wall tbh.

Joey the lips

Eurorunner wrote: »

I really hope they curve in further than that. They are 850 out each direction - at the apex of the curve. It looks like they curve in much more...waiting from two different suppliers for confirmation.
If it doesn't, its a shame. There must be many more people living in boxes where space is tight like this. Can't afford the complication, expense or time with messing with the wall tbh.

For the price of one of these doors and trays you would have paid for a wall extension and shower tray and door

skingtile

that would work as curvature starts 600 from corner, looks lovely but dont drop the soap, they are a little tight, would suggest you locate one on display and stand inside it

Eurorunner

skingtile wrote: »

that would work as curvature starts 600 from corner

Is that for definite??...need 550 to swing it!

skingtile wrote: »

looks lovely but dont drop the soap, they are a little tight, would suggest you locate one on display and stand inside it

I'd imagine so but it does fix the problem. I guess it will have to be an obesity-free house!

skingtile

definitly starts 600, ,go bigger, go green, save water and energy , shower together

Joey the lips

That unit wont work. Go look at vogues unit on display in blanchardstown its the exact same dimensions.

Eurorunner

Joey the lips wrote: »

That unit wont work. Go look at vogues unit on display in blanchardstown its the exact same dimensions.

Ok, can't make that work. I think the only other option is to centre a D shaped enclosure (similar to the one skingtile suggested earlier) along the wall where the bath is right now.

Wheres the best value to be had for this type of enclosure?

Joey the lips

Eurorunner wrote: »

Ok, can't make that work. I think the only other option is to centre a D shaped enclosure (similar to the one skingtile suggested earlier) along the wall where the bath is right now.

Wheres the best value to be had for this type of enclosure?

na you have 2 options because the D shapped option works out at 1000 euro with the tray. Its available from

www.imageshowers.ie


I would seriously think of builing that wall out the 4 inces think about it. All it would involve is secueing a decent bit of 2 x 4 or slightly bigger. it only has to be level because you can tile over it.

Eurorunner

Joey the lips wrote: »

na you have 2 options because the D shapped option works out at 1000 euro with the tray. Its available from
www.imageshowers.net

The one that skingtile linked to on the first page of the thread should workout at about €550 delivered...unless theres something wrong with it??

Joey the lips wrote: »

I would seriously think of builing that wall out the 4 inces think about it. All it would involve is secueing a decent bit of 2 x 4 or slightly bigger. it only has to be level because you can tile over it.

May not be clear from the photo but its adjacent to the doorway. Would have a piece of tiled wall jutting out alongside the door - i cant see that looking well?
The other thing is that I wouldn't be handy enough to do this myself and I don't want to have to get another tradesman involved (which I would have to do).
I thought that I would be losing space using the D shaped unit but the more I think about it, the more I think its a good use of space. Theres little left over anyways each side when its slotted in - and its in its own space between toilet and washbasin. With what I was trying to achieve before, there would have been little space between wb & shower.

Eurorunner

Thanks to everyone for their input here. Particularly skingtile for suggesting the d-shaped enclosure. I got one of these off ebay for €284 delivered. Has worked out well. Proper shower now with more space freed up. Heres a pic prior to regrouting. Got caught out a bit with tiles - although I ordered up exactly the same, they were a different tone to the originals.