a christians review of the GOD Delusion

Vampireskiss

http://www.jesustheevidence.com/godreview.html

Sonderval

However, with Jesus, we’re on firmer ground. There is hard evidence – evidence that we are capable of understanding - indicating that He is the Son of God

I'd like to see that 'hard' evidence.

Ickle Magoo

Oh dear. The lack of substantial counter-argument against the "rational evidence" that Jesus is the son of God moved him from agnosticism to Christianity?

Clearly, if Jesus is the Son of God, then there is a God.

Can't argue with that kind of logic. :pac:

Zombrex

http://www.jesustheevidence.com/whatsin.html
Introduction

* Contemporary historians (including the majority of non-Scientologist historians) nearly all agree that a teacher and holy man called L. Ron Hubbard lived in 20th Century America, collected a band of followers and published a number of books on his religion around 1950AD.

* We have clear evidence that within a few years of (AD 1950 to 1980), communities of Scientologists had become established throughout America and Western Europe – despite hostility and persecution from the local authorities and the non-Scientologist they lived amongst.

* Historians can tell us that all types of persons became Scientologists. This wasn’t a faith restricted to one ethnic group or social class. Jews, Greeks, Romans, Syrians, Ethiopians, Egyptians, the rich, the poor, men, women, slaves and the free became Scientologists at this time.

* We have clear evidence that by AD1953, there was a Scientologist community in America that was large to gain offical status as a religion from the State

* What did these early Scientologists believe about Scientology? We have good evidence that these Scientologists believed that Xenu was the Empire of the Universe and who place the souls of people on Earth and blew them up, and their thetans escaped into the bodies of later humans.

* Scientologist beliefs developed and modified in the decades following Hubbard. However, belief in the thetan and what it meant has remained a constant

Historians know that “something happened” in America around AD1950 to convince Scientologists that Hubbard had access to the truth about the human spirit. This “something” caused the birth of Scientology and caused it to spread like wildfire through America and Europe. This “something” caused all types of people to become Scientologists - despite extreme hostility and persecution from those they lived amongst. This “something” caused Scientology to grow - despite almost continual persecution for the first 30 years of its existence.




.... convinced yet :pac:

Rev Hellfire

Sonderval wrote: »

I'd like to see that 'hard' evidence.

All the evidence you need is in the bible...

Pompey Magnus

Wicknight wrote: »

.... convinced yet :pac:

Well played.

This “something” caused the birth of Christianity and caused it to spread like wildfire through the Eastern Roman Empire.

Wildfire? It has been shown that Christianity is likely to have grown at about the same rate in its first few hundred years as the Mormon Church has grown in the 20th century, averaging an increase in believers of about 40% every decade (so a Christian community with 10 members in 90 AD would have had 14 members in 100 AD). I doubt many would consider the Morman faith to be spreading "like wildfire". Christianity only really took off when it became politically and financially advantageous to convert to it.

5uspect

Rev Hellfire wrote: »

All the evidence you need is in the bible...

Which one?

Rev Hellfire

5uspect wrote: »

Which one?

The green one.