Looking for a Bible

LumpyMonkey

I'm llooking for a very good quality King James Version bible.

I'd like a large format, and would like older style text. A reproduction could be nice if the text was easy enough to read. I do want the original 1611 text - not the 1769 Baskerville Birmingham revision as many versions of the 1611 seem to be!
I've a budget of €300. This is something that I'd like to be able to hand down through generations

I've seen beautiful examples online, but the postage is very high due to the weight.

Can anyone offer advice of where to go in Dublin? I've tried Veritas already.

Regards,
LM

homer911

Thats not a typical bible - have you tried the National Bible Society in Dawson Street? http://www.biblesociety.ie/ They could certainly point you in the right direction.

There is "Footprints" in Talbot Street near Connolly Station, (or the one in Dun Laoghaire) but I dont think they would have something of this order either (01-8363764)
http://www.scriptureunion.ie/Literature/index.php

Fanny Cradock

Footprints would probably be happy to order it for you. There might also be site or two on the resources thread.

wolfsbane

LumpyMonkey wrote: »

I'm llooking for a very good quality King James Version bible.

I'd like a large format, and would like older style text. A reproduction could be nice if the text was easy enough to read. I do want the original 1611 text - not the 1769 Baskerville Birmingham revision as many versions of the 1611 seem to be!
I've a budget of €300. This is something that I'd like to be able to hand down through generations

I've seen beautiful examples online, but the postage is very high due to the weight.

Can anyone offer advice of where to go in Dublin? I've tried Veritas already.

Regards,
LM

Try my friend at ICM Books here in Lurgan:
KJV 1611 Edition
http://icmbooksdirect.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=27944

It works out at £18.97 plus £6.00 postage to the ROI = £24.97.

I'm not sure how that works out it Euros. You could ring him on (UK code) 028 3832 1488 or just set up an account on-line.

Enjoy!

Run_to_da_hills

The North is full of them as there are heaps of KJV only churches. It may be worth a trip to Belfast and look around some of the Christian Bookshops as they would have a better range of them.

homer911

At €300 budget I think the OP is looking for something more like a bible typically found on a church lecturn...

chozometroid

I found the real deal on this website:
http://www.greatsite.com/facsimile-reproductions/kingjames-1611.html

It says free shipping, but I'm not sure if it applies to the UK.



The Deluxe Full-Size Limited Edition $749 (522 euros)
Here it is… the "Holy Grail" of book collectors everywhere… the "Bible to end all Bibles"… the First Edition of the beloved 1611 King James Bible. This faithful and exact reproduction of the very first King James Pulpit Bible is indeed a work of art and fine craftsmanship beyond compare. More than a "facsimile", it is a masterpiece.
Measuring the exact size of the original 1611 printing: an enormous 17 ½ inches tall by 12 inches wide by 5 ½ inches thick (including its slipcase), and weighing so much it nearly takes two people to comfortably move it, this is the finest reproduction of the 1611 ever undertaken. Unlike our other facsimiles, this Deluxe Edition is printed on 100% rag cotton linen sheet (not wood-pulp paper), just like the original 1611. We even faithfully reproduced the small quantity of decorative red ink in the prefatory section.

The Regular Edition $249 (174 euros)
Our Regular Edition Facsimile Reproduction of the 1611 First Edition King James Bible measures approximately 11 inches tall by 8.75 inches wide by 3.5 inches thick. The binding is hardcover black bonded leather with gold stamping along the spine and on the front cover. Each page was computer-scanned from the original, and printed on heavy cream paper. There is no other facsimile of the 1611 like this for sale in the world. In a much more manageable "medium-folio" size, rather than the original "giant pulpit folio" size, it remains otherwise an exact photographic duplicate of the very first press run of world's most beloved book.
Our facsimiles are all computer-scanned images from a genuine original, transferred directly to paper to produce an exact likeness of the genuine source material without the slightest alteration of appearance (except for size in this case). This leather-bound edition is a wonderful and affordable display piece for your home, and it is big enough to be a "Family Bible". You will spend hours pouring over the magnificent typography and woodcut designs found in the original 1611.

LumpyMonkey

Thanks Wolfsbane, but I think this printing is the 1769 Baskerville Birmingham wording, not the original 1611 working. i.e. the spellings of many words have been modernised!

In the KJV Genesis should read -
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the Earth. And the earth was without forme, and voyd, and darkenelle was upon the face of the deepe : and the Spirit of God mooved upon the face of the waters"

But very often the supposed 1611 versions are the 1759 reprint with modernised spelling, so Genesis reads -
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the Earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters"

I'd like to get the original version, even though it's more difficult to read.
I always tell myself that at least it's easier to read than Tyndale!!! In his translation Genesis reads as follows -
"In the begynnynge God created heaven and erth. The erth was voyde and emptie ad darcknesse was vpon the depe and the spirite of god moved vpon the water"
I think I'd rather read Ulysses by candlelight !!

Thanks Chozometroid for the suggested site. I've looked at them before, and they're my backup if I can't find anything here. The postage & duty will be high. Is there VAT on bibles by the way?
Everyone should have a look at their site to see the magnificent original bibles. How these old tomes have been treasured and survived is a testament to the value of the word of God.

It's probably true that there'd be more selection up north, but a Lollard like me finds it's terrible to think that one can't buy a particular printing of the bible in 2009 because it was requested by King James.

I thought we'd all grown up.

chozometroid

Not meaning to go off-topic, but I bought the 1560 Geneva Bible from amazon a while back, and it reads much like the original 1611 KJV with the Elizabethan Old English letters.
The Geneva Bible's NT is based mostly on Tyndale's version. The Old Testament was translated directly from the Hebew. What's interesting are the marginal notes by the Protestant reformers.

PDN

LumpyMonkey wrote: »

It's probably true that there'd be more selection up north, but a Lollard like me finds it's terrible to think that one can't buy a particular printing of the bible in 2009 because it was requested by King James.

I thought we'd all grown up.

I think you're misunderstanding why it's more available up north. It's nothing to do with anyone liking King James. It's because a particular subsection of Christianity exists up there which persists, in the face of good biblical scholarship and common sense, in insisting that the only correct Bible transation is the King James Version and that all other English translations are satanic counterfeits. Thankfully such a view does not afflict any significant number of Christians in the South.

Therefore you are much more likely to find a wide range of KJV's in the North than in the South.

Manach

Not quite KJV, but it looks pretty.
http://www.amazon.com/Douay-Rheims-C.../dp/1905574444

wolfsbane

LumpyMonkey wrote: »

Thanks Wolfsbane, but I think this printing is the 1769 Baskerville Birmingham wording, not the original 1611 working. i.e. the spellings of many words have been modernised!

In the KJV Genesis should read -
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the Earth. And the earth was without forme, and voyd, and darkenelle was upon the face of the deepe : and the Spirit of God mooved upon the face of the waters"

But very often the supposed 1611 versions are the 1759 reprint with modernised spelling, so Genesis reads -
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the Earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters"

I'd like to get the original version, even though it's more difficult to read.
I always tell myself that at least it's easier to read than Tyndale!!! In his translation Genesis reads as follows -
"In the begynnynge God created heaven and erth. The erth was voyde and emptie ad darcknesse was vpon the depe and the spirite of god moved vpon the water"
I think I'd rather read Ulysses by candlelight !!

Thanks Chozometroid for the suggested site. I've looked at them before, and they're my backup if I can't find anything here. The postage & duty will be high. Is there VAT on bibles by the way?
Everyone should have a look at their site to see the magnificent original bibles. How these old tomes have been treasured and survived is a testament to the value of the word of God.

It's probably true that there'd be more selection up north, but a Lollard like me finds it's terrible to think that one can't buy a particular printing of the bible in 2009 because it was requested by King James.

I thought we'd all grown up.

I checked the Amazon reviews and found this:
BOOK REVIEW:
This 1611 Edition of the King James Version of the Bible is just like the modern edition but with old spelling and some things that are not found in the modern edition. As a comparison, these are the openings of the book of Matthew between the two editions:

(BEGIN COMPARISON)

--Modern Edition--

THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO MATTHEW

1 THE book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

--1611 Edition--

THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO S.Matthew

C H A P. I.

1 The genealogie of Christ from Abraham to Ioseph. 18 Hee was conceiued by the holy Ghost, and borne of the Virgin Mary when she was espoused to Ioseph. 19 The Angel satisfieth the misdeeming thoughts of Ioseph, and interpreteth the names of Christ.

T H E booke of the * generation of Iesus Christ , the sonne of Dauid, the sonne of Abraham.

(END COMPARISON)

Here are some pros and cons for this 1611 Edition:

--Pros--

- In addition to the Old Testament and the New Testament, the Apochrypha is also in here
- The old spelling, punctuation, and grammar is in this edition
- The text is set at modern type, so it can be read easily
- There are some footnotes at the sides
- The Bible is in hardcover.

--Cons--

- The pages are too thin; it seems like they can be wrinkled very easily
- The words are small
- The words of Jesus Christ are not in red letters--this is NOT a Red Letter Edition
- Quotes are opened with star symbol (i.e. *) but no * symbol is used to close the quote; this might make it hard for some readers, like myself, to know where one particular quote ends
- This edition is expensive; I recommend getting it through Amazon.com,...

Overall, I recommend this Edition--what a great reprint!

It seems to be what you require - but why don't you ring ICM Books and ask them about the spelling, etc?

Soul Winner

Best post I've read in ages, top drawer, take a bow chozometroid...

chozometroid wrote: »

Not meaning to go off-topic, but I bought the 1560 Geneva Bible from amazon a while back, and it reads much like the original 1611 KJV with the Elizabethan Old English letters.
The Geneva Bible's NT is based mostly on Tyndale's version. The Old Testament was translated directly from the Hebew. What's interesting are the marginal notes by the Protestant reformers.

stesh

There are a few in a box in my shed that you can have. I was only going to be getting rid of them.