Thanks in AH

Mimikyu

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Hagar

If the thanks were worth anything I'd agree with you, but there not so why go to the effort?

Mimikyu

No

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Pygmalion

I voted no because I find those stupid replies to be amusing in many cases.
AH is one of the only places in which I can see a pun and actually laugh at it, rather than just think how stupid it is.

If you think this measure would reduce these stupid replies then I'm fully against it.

Karl Hungus

No, either get rid of it altogether, or leave it as it is. Disabling it in specific forums is just defeating the purpose. So you can thank someone in the TV forum, but not on After Hours? Ridiculous.

Stark

Stupid replies were a feature of AH long before Thanks was ever a feature.

Nerin

Karl Hungus wrote: »

No, either get rid of it altogether, or leave it as it is. Disabling it in specific forums is just defeating the purpose. So you can thank someone in the TV forum, but not on After Hours? Ridiculous.

I agree.
I use thanks for many reasons:

I agree/+1
That was an interesting post.
Well done User, thanks for that contribution.
You just made me LOL

etc/

Its a pain in the ass when it isnt activated.
Like here on feedback. i would have thanked Caps suggestion because i see what hes saying, but i don t think that is going to be the solution to idiots showing off on AH.
I then would have thanked Karls post because i share his view.

I dont think removing it from AH would stop idiots popping up.
I think removing the idiots heads IRL would stop them.

My name is URL

voted no

If a post is interesting/funny I'll thank it, and that's what others do too

It beats having to reply to posts with LOL or +1

AH is what it is imo, and doesn't pretend to be otherwise

If people didn't like it they wouldn't keep posting in it

dr.bollocko

Ah why can't I thank anyone's fecking posts here?!!!
/rips hair out.

Nevyn

No

The admins disabled it a while back.

waitinforatrain

No. It helps me find the posts worth reading

and also to attempt some decent posts myself. Yes I am a thanks whore.

orestes

Interestingly, when thanks was first rought in it was disabled in AH iirc and brought in there when it was brought up a bunch of times by users who wanted to thank the funny posts. This place really does go in circles sometimes

My name is URL

Maybe there could be a button where members can disable thanks when they're starting a new thread..?

Then people can make threads without worrying about any whoring posts

5starpool

I don't like Man Utd. Can we ban discussion of them from boards too?

This is the thread for suggesting things we want that other won't want, isn't it?

Dudess

Captain Morgan wrote: »

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I think that's something which people believe but isn't actually true. Because...

Stark wrote: »

Stupid replies were a feature of AH long before Thanks was ever a feature.

Precisely.
Damn it, I wanted to thank that!

Nerin

5starpool wrote: »

I don't like Man Utd. Can we ban discussion of them from boards too?

This is the thread for suggesting things we want that other won't want, isn't it?

Someone made a simple suggestion and people are now discussing it and explaining why they are pro or con like adults...

edit- if thanks was still in feedback i would have thanked dudess. :P

AlmightyCushion

Captain Morgan wrote: »

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But after hours was always like that or at least as long as I remember. Threads were always full of people trying to be funny. Thanks hasn't changed that.

Mimikyu

No

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stovelid

I'm surprised that people can see the difference between smart replies designed to garner thanks, those designed to garner laughs and those designed just to wind people up/for the sake of it.

Did people never do it in AH before thanks came in?

Or are people suddenly hanging all their gripes about AH on the thanks function?

tbh

please can we have thanks in the dome please? There's the odd good one.

waitinforatrain

How about a "Hide Thanks" option on User CP?

Sarky

No

It's just Karma and Reputation all over again. The only reason it hasn't blown up like those two features yet (and I do stress yet) is becuse there's no "anti-thanks" to directly upset people. I'd like to see it gone altogether. Spammy +1 posts might increase, but that's what moderators have a delete button for, right?

Sharpshooter

Hagar wrote: »

If the thanks were worth anything I'd agree with you, but there not so why go to the effort?

Pygmalion wrote: »

I voted no because I find those stupid replies to be amusing in many cases.
AH is one of the only places in which I can see a pun and actually laugh at it, rather than just think how stupid it is.

If you think this measure would reduce these stupid replies then I'm fully against it.

Karl Hungus wrote: »

No, either get rid of it altogether, or leave it as it is. Disabling it in specific forums is just defeating the purpose. So you can thank someone in the TV forum, but not on After Hours? Ridiculous.

Nerin wrote: »

I agree.
I use thanks for many reasons:

I agree/+1
That was an interesting post.
Well done User, thanks for that contribution.
You just made me LOL

etc/

Its a pain in the ass when it isnt activated.
Like here on feedback. i would have thanked Caps suggestion because i see what hes saying, but i don t think that is going to be the solution to idiots showing off on AH.
I then would have thanked Karls post because i share his view.

I dont think removing it from AH would stop idiots popping up.
I think removing the idiots heads IRL would stop them.

My name is URL wrote: »

voted no

If a post is interesting/funny I'll thank it, and that's what others do too

It beats having to reply to posts with LOL or +1

AH is what it is imo, and doesn't pretend to be otherwise

If people didn't like it they wouldn't keep posting in it

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Ah why can't I thank anyone's fecking posts here?!!!
/rips hair out.

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

But after hours was always like that or at least as long as I remember. Threads were always full of people trying to be funny. Thanks hasn't changed that.

stovelid wrote: »

I'm surprised that people can see the difference between smart replies designed to garner thanks, those designed to garner laughs and those designed just to wind people up/for the sake of it.

Did people never do it in AH before thanks came in?

Or are people suddenly hanging all their gripes about AH on the thanks function?

Just some of the posts I could have thanked if there was a thank button here.
Thank you all. 0/

Sarky wrote: »

It's just Karma and Reputation all over again. The only reason it hasn't blown up like those two features yet (and I do stress yet) is becuse there's no "anti-thanks" to directly upset people. I'd like to see it gone altogether. Spammy +1 posts might increase, but that's what moderators have a delete button for, right?

Yes, but would you really want to go deleting those posts when they would have been avoided by having a thanks button?

I wouldn't. I have more to be doing with my time.

As for the Mods having a delete button is all very well, but what does a user do in that situation?

You would get "Why did you delete my +1 post, I was only agreeing with said poster?

The thanks button is there imo to allow posters to agree with a post whether it is funny or just that the previous poster said what they were going to say.

I say leave it, it's not causing trouble in forums is it?

AlmightyCushion

I think thanks can actually be quite beneficial to after hours. For example:

User 1: Yore ma!
User 2 (quoting user 1's yore ma post): Not another stupid yore ma post.

User 2 ends up getting a billion thanks and user 1 realises yore ma posts aren't as funny as he/she though they were.

Diabhal Beag

I don't spend hours reading AH so if thanks were stopped then how would people like me be able to find out the better posts over the pointless ones.

javaboy

waitinforatrain wrote: »

How about a "Hide Thanks" option on User CP?

+1 to this and to so many other posts in this thread. It amazes me the things people find to get irritated about. If it's not disable thanks in this forum, it's disable post count in the other. Seriously these e-penis things aren't that big a deal. I think on balance, more people in AH like thanks than don't like it.

FWIW blatant thanks whoring is not allowed in AH and sometimes we even strip a post of thanks just to make a point. As for the smart comments, as said above, they were always there. "Yore ma" for example and all the other stupid tired old memes were stupid, tired and old long before the thanks system came in.

Look at it this way: If the stupid/funny comments and puns weren't contributed something to AH that AH users want, then they wouldn't get many thanks and people would stop doing it. If they are getting thanks, then they're obviously providing something to the AH community that the users want. So what's the problem? Isn't that exactly what the thanks system is about?*

God damn it it's irritating not being able to thank posts in FB.


*Obvious circle-jerkery (you thank mine and I'll thank yours) excepted. If you spot any of that let us know.

Hail 2 Da Chimp

No

I'd like to see an end to all the thanks whoring in AH, as soon as a thread starts there's dozens of posts of people trying to be smart / witty, just to have their post thanked.
Also is it possible to disable bad puns, seems to be rife over there now.

Tar.Aldarion

No they are grand, I can see why it might be turned off in feedback, even if I don't agree with it, but AH, and not other forums, no.

Don't know why it is off in the cuckoos nest btw. Even postcount being off in there doesn't make sense any more, not that I'm saying turn it on, doesn't matter that much, but there are so many fora/threads that are cuckoosnestalikes now.

stovelid

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

I'd like to see an end to all the thanks whoring in AH, as soon as a thread starts there's dozens of posts of people trying to be smart / witty, just to have their post thanked.
Also is it possible to disable bad puns, seems to be rife over there now.

I miss the old pre-thanks AH.

Always so full of incisive social commentary, intelligent debate and serious issues.

No puns; no jokes.

It was the golden AH era for me until thanks ruined it all.

Dudess

The above post is why we need thanks here.

H2DC, the very same stuff was happening before the thanks system - when the reward was "+1", "LOL", "LMAO", "ROFL" and/or a row of ":D".

ibarelycare

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

Also is it possible to disable bad puns, seems to be rife over there now.

Ah you gotta love the puns! Sharpshooter's post count would be about 86 if it wasn't for the puns!

Hail 2 Da Chimp

No

Dudess wrote: »

H2DC, the very same stuff was happening before the thanks system - when the reward was "+1", "LOL", "LMAO", "ROFL" and/or a row of ":D".

I know what AH was like before the thanks system was around but my point is, the thanks system hasn't improved AH and in my opinion has made the problem worse.
Do you remember what Feedback was like WITH the thanks system?
Some smart effective modding and no thanks system seems to have straightened it out!

ibarelycare wrote: »

Ah you gotta love the puns!

NO I DON'T!!! AAAHhhhhHHHhhhhh :pac:

stovelid

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

Do you remember what Feedback was like WITH the thanks system?
Some smart effective modding and no thanks system seems to have straightened it out!

Why blame the thanks on that?

I think it was far more to do with cracking down on the lol-cats and gang-ups?

The help-desk has also removed a lot of the contentious type of feedback threads.

Hail 2 Da Chimp

No

stovelid wrote: »

Why blame the thanks on that?

I think it was far more to do with cracking down on the lol-cats and gang-ups?

The help-desk has also removed a lot of the contentious type of feedback threads.

From that perspective I'd almost put the thanks on par with lol-cats.
As soon as a new thread starts, someone pipes in with a smart-arse answer just for the sake of getting thanks, there was a spate of these type of posts in feedback (even after the lol-cat clean up and extra moderation).

Basically, as long as the thanks system is in AH, people will always jump into new threads and try to get the first smart-arsed reply, which leaves the first page of a potentially good thread a total mess. I believe the thanks system encourages this type of posting / spamming.

stovelid

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

From that perspective I'd almost put the thanks on par with lol-cats.
As soon as a new thread starts, someone pipes in with a smart-arse answer just for the sake of getting thanks, there was a spate of these type of posts in feedback (even after the lol-cat clean up and extra moderation).

Basically, as long as the thanks system is in AH, people will always jump into new threads and try to get the first smart-arsed reply, which leaves the first page of a potentially good thread a total mess. I believe the thanks system encourages this type of posting / spamming.

For what it's worth, I like the no-thanks rule in Feedback.

I still don't really see the issue in AH.

For me, smart-arse replies, puns and levity have always been the hallmark of AH. I also don't think that kind of humour kills off discussion. There's plenty of examples of discussion surviving.

Nerin

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

From that perspective I'd almost put the thanks on par with lol-cats.
As soon as a new thread starts, someone pipes in with a smart-arse answer just for the sake of getting thanks, there was a spate of these type of posts in feedback (even after the lol-cat clean up and extra moderation).

Basically, as long as the thanks system is in AH, people will always jump into new threads and try to get the first smart-arsed reply, which leaves the first page of a potentially good thread a total mess. I believe the thanks system encourages this type of posting / spamming.

Hmmm,i kinda see why you think that,but then why doesn't it happen on every forum?
Ah is the more laidback place on boards. Feedback used to be more relaxed too.
Feedback got less relaxed,and thanks was still here,and it worked. Thanks only disappeared from feedback a while after the crack down.

So how does it appear to me?
Well,if we go by the logic that thanks encourages people to be smart assed twats,then why isn't every forum on boards that has thanks on it like that?

I'll let someone else work that out

Captain Darling

tbh wrote: »

please can we have thanks in the dome please? There's the odd good one.

+1

It would be very interesting to see how that'd pan out.

K-9

stovelid wrote: »

I miss the old pre-thanks AH.

Always so full of incisive social commentary, intelligent debate and serious issues.

No puns; no jokes.

It was the golden AH era for me until thanks ruined it all.

Damn, No thanks button.

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

From that perspective I'd almost put the thanks on par with lol-cats.
As soon as a new thread starts, someone pipes in with a smart-arse answer just for the sake of getting thanks, there was a spate of these type of posts in feedback (even after the lol-cat clean up and extra moderation).

Basically, as long as the thanks system is in AH, people will always jump into new threads and try to get the first smart-arsed reply, which leaves the first page of a potentially good thread a total mess. I believe the thanks system encourages this type of posting / spamming.

So, no thanks button is going to stop or reduce this? It is AH, it isn't a serious forum for discussion with strict rules like Politics. If a topic is worthy of debate, after a few pages the smart replies filter out.

stovelid

The real issue here, as ever, is the constant campaign of current months to cleanse AH of non-serious/'offensive' content and turn it into a politics/humanities-lite forum, albeit one with a bigger footfall and where you don't have to back up your assertions.

Mr. Presentable

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Ah why can't I thank anyone's fecking posts here?!!!
/rips hair out.

Thanks

Terry

5starpool wrote: »

I don't like Man Utd. Can we ban discussion of them from boards too?

This is the thread for suggesting things we want that other won't want, isn't it?

Well we have banned discussion of that team from AH. I'm sure you and your fellow mods could come up with a similar rule for the forums you mod.

Sarky wrote: »

It's just Karma and Reputation all over again. The only reason it hasn't blown up like those two features yet (and I do stress yet) is becuse there's no "anti-thanks" to directly upset people. I'd like to see it gone altogether. Spammy +1 posts might increase, but that's what moderators have a delete button for, right?

Right.
And sort of wrong.

I personally do not like the thanks thingy in AH.
It has already been stated that it just increases really ****ing retarded replies.
I mean it has always had retarded posts, but the thanks thingy just increased that ten fold.*

Some people seem to mistake AH as boards version of /b/ or something awful. It is not. It never was and it never will be.
It's my belief that the thanks thingy just brought more of the juvenile crap from those forum to AH. If anything, they belong in tCN. The thing about tCN is that it doesn't have thanks or post count +1, so you get the post whores and the thanks whores and the post/thanks whore all converging in AH and trying to be funny. The thing is, they rarely are.

I don't think I can state clearly enough that AH is not there for the lulz (or whatever the meme of the day is). It's a general discussion forum. It's for stuff that doesn't belong anywhere else on boards.
Yes, there is plenty of room for lighthearted discussion, but that doesn't mean turning a thread about 500 people losing their jobs into a punfest.

On the other hand, it seems that most people want that, so what's a man to do?

*estimation. I haven't counted them.

Bonavox

No

I voted yes because I believe it would cut down on silly replies. Thanks is for constructive and helpful replies, not for funny posts

jumpguy

I think it has a lot of bad points but alot of good too, which I think outweighs the bad.

kumate_champ07

Pygmalion wrote: »

If you think this measure would reduce these stupid replies then I'm fully against it.

Im fully against your ma, right now.

Stark

Bono Vox wrote: »

I voted yes because I believe it would cut down on silly replies. Thanks is for constructive and helpful replies, not for funny posts

What's wrong with the latter? I come to boards for a good laugh as much as anything else, especially in the social forums.

meditraitor

Thanks is not a problem in after hours, its the serious business gobsheens trying to stop the lighthearted nonsense that makes after hours such a cool forum.

My advise to those who dont like Thanks/Yor Ma/ penis/gee references/ shit talk, taxi driver bashing threads is to bugger off back to the humanities or god fobid_ economics forum.

I think there should be an automatic ban for anyone who compalins about after hours :P
On a serios note, why is there two sticking out tongue smilies?

Mimikyu

No

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Terry

Stark wrote: »

What's wrong with the latter? I come to boards for a good laugh as much as anything else, especially in the social forums.

AH is about as social as O'Connell street on a Saturday night.

thomond2006

Terry wrote: »

AH is about as social as O'Connell street on a Saturday night.

That post is a good example of why there should be thanks in Feedback.

Hank Scorpio

No

My name is URL wrote: »

Maybe there could be a button where members can disable thanks when they're starting a new thread..?

Then people can make threads without worrying about any whoring posts

:pac:

My name is URL

nuxxx wrote: »

:pac: