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By Ballot or by Gun Our Day Will Come

  • 17-08-2009 9:21am
    #1
    b12mearse
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    Does anyone know where this quote came from and what was meant by it??


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  • #2
    Biggins
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    b12mearse wrote: »
    Does anyone know where this quote came from and what was meant by it??

    Would have though the meaning was obvious and its a republican quote.
    One of many. For example: http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~sinnfein/Deafhocail.html

    I also believe "Rage against the machine" later used the term at one stage.


  • #3
    Ostrom
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    b12mearse wrote: »
    Does anyone know where this quote came from and what was meant by it??

    It meant they would seek mandate either by concensus through election, or by force. I dont know when it may have started.


  • #4
    walrusgumble
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,062 ✭✭✭walrusgumble


    b12mearse wrote: »
    Does anyone know where this quote came from and what was meant by it??


    meant, its very clear, those who wish to achieve their aims/goals will do it by any means available to them, (either violence or by political representation)

    Bobby Sands and Danny Morrison have referred to these comments in their work / speeches


  • #5
    Joey the lips
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    The famous republician quote is not this one but rather this one!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armalite_and_ballot_box_strategy


    The quote you usually refere to is usually associated with american politics and actually has its origins in the civil war in america


  • #6
    thelastditch
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    b12mearse wrote: »
    Does anyone know where this quote came from and what was meant by it??

    Was it Adolph Hitler or some other Nazi?


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  • #7
    FTA69
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    At a Sinn Féin Ard Fheis in the late 1980s Danny Morrison made a speech containing the line "who here will really object if with a ballot in one hand an armalite in the other, we take power in Ireland?". This was used as a tagline for the strategy of the Provisionals at that time, "the armalite and the ballot box" which I assumed was juxtaposed with "our day will come" to create the phrase you're alluding to, which was a common graffiti slogan back in the day.


  • #8
    mega man
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    thelastditch wrote: »
    Was it Adolph Hitler or some other Nazi?

    ya your're right, it was probably margaret thatcher


  • #9
    stovelid
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    I think you mean the Danny Morrison quote.

    I can go look to confirm but it was something like who will object if we something? with an Armalite in one hand and a ballot paper in the other.

    edit:

    Who here really believes we can win the war through the ballot box? But will anyone here object if, with a ballot paper in this hand and an Armalite in the other, we take power in Ireland?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armalite_and_ballot_box_strategy


  • #10
    thelastditch
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    stovelid wrote: »
    I think you mean the Danny Morrison quote.

    I can go look to confirm but it was something like who will object if we something? with an Armalite in one hand and a ballot paper in the other.

    edit:

    Who here really believes we can win the war through the ballot box? But will anyone here object if, with a ballot paper in this hand and an Armalite in the other, we take power in Ireland?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armalite_and_ballot_box_strategy

    Yes, not only fascistic, but ludicrously ambitious and unrealistic. I wonder if 'Danny Boy' ever regretted his bravado when he was rotting in jail?


  • #11
    FTA69
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    thelastditch wrote: »
    Yes, not only fascistic, but ludicrously ambitious and unrealistic. I wonder if 'Danny Boy' ever regretted his bravado when he was rotting in jail?

    People seem to have a hard-on for the word "fascist" these days, it's fairly irritating to be honest, especially when it is used in a context that has nothing to do with fascism. I wouldn't have said that Morrison was "rotting" in jail either, he didn't do a massive stretch as far as I know, and conditions in Long Kesh by the 1990s were vastly improved on what they were.


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  • #12
    Gruffalo
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    thelastditch wrote: »
    Yes, not only fascistic, but ludicrously ambitious and unrealistic. I wonder if 'Danny Boy' ever regretted his bravado when he was rotting in jail?

    I doubt Danny ever wasted his time on regrets.


  • #13
    Gruffalo
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    FTA69 wrote: »
    People seem to have a hard-on for the word "fascist" these days, it's fairly irritating to be honest, especially when it is used in a context that has nothing to do with fascism. I wouldn't have said that Morrison was "rotting" in jail either, he didn't do a massive stretch as far as I know, and conditions in Long Kesh by the 1990s were vastly improved on what they were.

    Well said and I concur with your signature also.


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