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Any real musicians on this site?

  • 16-08-2009 1:06pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 505 ✭✭✭


    All I read here is whinging posts that there are no drummers out there, so I put up a post offering my services as a drummer and get zero responses, I'm fast coming to the realisation that the music board is a black hole with no one on the other side..............................................


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭whodoo


    couldnt agree more!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Colzed


    Here fukin Here!!



    Bedroom jammers and when push comes to playing or even meeting up.... SLAM! bedroom door locked


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭Rigsby


    Here's your post: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055651081 It's only two days old. Give it a little more time. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭lmahoney79


    i totally agree with this and the fact that there seem to be a lot of people who like the idea of being in a band but never actually do it. I have been on both receiving ends for bands were nothing happened....i advertised for band members, hardly any (if any) bothered to show or learn the tunes. I also answered ads were people were looking for a drummer (im a drummer by the way too!) learnt the tunes then told the auditions were cancelled......jeez!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭srvhead


    Ah sure didn't ya get to play with me Daragh and Niall there now Rob;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 503 ✭✭✭pistonsvox


    im real?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 505 ✭✭✭DerKaiser


    Rigsby wrote: »
    Here's your post: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055651081 It's only two days old. Give it a little more time. :)


    :D It's the 300 odd other posts that I have put up that are really getting me down!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 505 ✭✭✭DerKaiser


    srvhead wrote: »
    Ah sure didn't ya get to play with me Daragh and Niall there now Rob;)

    Ah Jayzuz, how are ya Ger? How's things? Real deal still goin?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 505 ✭✭✭DerKaiser


    pistonsvox wrote: »
    im real?


    You've got my attention, care to add anything to that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 503 ✭✭✭pistonsvox


    im a musician...and do nothing in life other than play music?:pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭srvhead


    Still chuggin' along Rob, not too busy though. Hope ya get sorted. I must e-mail ya some video footage from the gig in Clontarf Castle!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 505 ✭✭✭DerKaiser


    srvhead wrote: »
    Still chuggin' along Rob, not too busy though. Hope ya get sorted. I must e-mail ya some video footage from the gig in Clontarf Castle!!

    No way :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 171 ✭✭srvhead


    WAY!

    I'll dig it off the hard drive. Daragh is charismatic on it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭Guitareaxe


    HI, I'm a real musician I guess! I play professionally and teach guitar privately. Have been viewing the ads here for a while but not much has jumped out at me. I must say, many of the original bands who post with myspace links are not very good in my opinion!

    Anyway allot of the adverts for band vacancies are like "Im playing guitar for 2 years and want to start a band, age between 16 and 19 etc etc"

    Now come on, there is no such thing as a real musician in their teenage years, just a musician in training. If people wanna get some more replies, gotta stop putting the age limits. I'm 25 and wouldnt give a damn what age my band were as long as they were great musicians with the right attitude to work.

    Judging by the fact that the Boards.ie "Instruments" subforum "Playing techniques and theory" sees little action I would say there are not many real muso's on here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭Rigsby


    Guitareaxe wrote: »
    If people wanna get some more replies, gotta stop putting the age limits. I'm 25 and wouldnt give a damn what age my band were as long as they were great musicians with the right attitude to work.

    Great point ! I have often wondered about this. If people are really into the same type music, then age should not matter. If someone is a bit older, so what ? :confused: You are there to make music together, and this should be your common denominator. You dont necessarily have to hang out together if you dont want to, except for practice and gigs.

    The aged rocker, Jeff Beck has an 17 y.o. female bassist in his band. Does n't seem to bother him.

    Here she is in action with the band. I rest my case... ;)


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxczsofejF8


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    Rigsby wrote: »
    Great point ! I have often wondered about this. If people are really into the same type music, then age should not matter. If someone is a bit older, so what ? :confused: You are there to make music together, and this should be your common denominator. You dont necessarily have to hang out together if you dont want to, except for practice and gigs.

    The aged rocker, Jeff Beck has an 17 y.o. female bassist in his band. Does n't seem to bother him.

    Here she is in action with the band. I rest my case... ;)


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxczsofejF8

    it wouldnt though would it!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 344 ✭✭joeduggan


    pistonsvox wrote: »
    im real?
    im a real musician too. but i dont have to be lookin for any ( drummers) to be in here.!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Drummers in short supply? Funny, I know a lot of drummers, when I'm involved with bands it's actually BASSISTS I find it almost impossible to get hold of...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 344 ✭✭joeduggan


    DerKaiser wrote: »
    All I read here is whinging posts that there are no drummers out there, so I put up a post offering my services as a drummer and get zero responses, I'm fast coming to the realisation that the music board is a black hole with no one on the other side..............................................
    im a real musician and i dont need to be lookin for other musicians to be here. i have a band , have a drummer, etc. so here goes " drummer NOT wanted. must not be between the ages of 20 - 30 . must not like music , especially any music with a melody . also he or she must not have their own gear or transport. anyone not interested?????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭Rigsby


    it wouldnt though would it!!

    Maybe not, though the point still remains. It can work. He, she, the band, and the audience seem to be enjoying themselves. :)

    So why cant other people follow suit ? :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    I've jammed with younger musicians and based on past experience I would set the minimum age at 18 and must be in college or at least have the Leaving Cert finished.

    In my case though, my band members are also drinking buddies so it helps that we're all around the same age :).

    As for DerKaiser's original post maybe there are a surplus of drummers in Dublin but there are stilll feck all available in Galway ;).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 102 ✭✭This is


    there are plenty of sound lads on here, lots of people can second that. we got our drummer on this site.

    maybe the influences and visions of most of the so called "musos" who cant find a band are those of blinkered pipe dreamers.

    define REAL musician?
    thats a dumb statement.
    does this mean you are good on ur instrument?
    or that ur a hippy purest, the real deal?
    or that u played in the worlds greatest cover band?
    or that u really really want to be famous?
    or that you have expensive equipment?

    or that your the most obvious cliched free muso socialite busking in temple bar who has a mum n dad that can let u have free rent in town so you can do music in college n pretend ur poor to people just like you?

    REAL cant be defined.
    musicians come in the form of all angles, characters, influences, shapes, sizes... just have a little patience for god sake!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭fincollins


    DerKaiser wrote: »
    You've got my attention, care to add anything to that?

    Pffft...*fincollins feeds a carrot to DerKaiser's high horse, then gently pats it on the nose saying 'wowww there girl'....:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 344 ✭✭joeduggan


    This is wrote: »
    there are plenty of sound lads on here, lots of people can second that. we got our drummer on this site.

    maybe the influences and visions of most of the so called "musos" who cant find a band are those of blinkered pipe dreamers.

    define REAL musician?
    thats a dumb statement.
    does this mean you are good on ur instrument?
    or that ur a hippy purest, the real deal?
    or that u played in the worlds greatest cover band?
    or that u really really want to be famous?
    or that you have expensive equipment?

    or that your the most obvious cliched free muso socialite busking in temple bar who has a mum n dad that can let u have free rent in town so you can do music in college n pretend ur poor to people just like you?

    REAL cant be defined.
    musicians come in the form of all angles, characters, influences, shapes, sizes... just have a little patience for god sake!!
    definitely one of the best posts ive read since joining boards. class:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28 The Seeker


    We're Looking for a drummer in south dublin area we've been giggin for two years but recently lost our drummer check out youtube/rennieandtheheartburns or myspace.com/rennieandtheheartburns to hear some stuff see what you think


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭raindog.promo


    This is wrote: »
    define REAL musician?

    Drunk / Stoned layabout that can't be replied upon to honour any commitments, finish anything or remember what they were doing the previous day without having to seriously thinking about it for 5 minutes.

    Pretty handy with an instrument and generally good company on a night out.

    Is never on time, except musically.



    :D

    It's all tongue in cheek of course


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 505 ✭✭✭DerKaiser


    This is wrote: »
    there are plenty of sound lads on here, lots of people can second that. we got our drummer on this site.

    maybe the influences and visions of most of the so called "musos" who cant find a band are those of blinkered pipe dreamers.

    define REAL musician?
    thats a dumb statement.
    does this mean you are good on ur instrument?
    or that ur a hippy purest, the real deal?
    or that u played in the worlds greatest cover band?
    or that u really really want to be famous?
    or that you have expensive equipment?

    or that your the most obvious cliched free muso socialite busking in temple bar who has a mum n dad that can let u have free rent in town so you can do music in college n pretend ur poor to people just like you?

    REAL cant be defined.
    musicians come in the form of all angles, characters, influences, shapes, sizes... just have a little patience for god sake!!

    Very good on my instruments, apart from that none of the above,

    Maybe our experiences have differed, I've met one or two great guys through here, but the majority are timewasters and if you actually read around you'll see others are of that opinion

    As for high horse, not a bit of it, just someone replying and actually turning up to a jam would do me

    Now, off to bed you two, school in the morning....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 505 ✭✭✭DerKaiser


    The Seeker wrote: »
    We're Looking for a drummer in south dublin area we've been giggin for two years but recently lost our drummer check out youtube/rennieandtheheartburns or myspace.com/rennieandtheheartburns to hear some stuff see what you think

    Thanks for the interest :) Unfortunately not my kind of sound, looking for more classic rock kind of thing, cheers though and best of luck in your search


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 768 ✭✭✭Jelly 292


    Ive met lots of good musicians here and a few pretenders.

    Such is life.

    Ive met serious players to if thats what supposed to be lacking.

    A lot of lurkers here.

    still a fooking great rescourse, worth the hassle.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭kimnjess


    DerKaiser wrote: »
    Now, off to bed you two, school in the morning....


    :pac::pac::pac::pac:...excellent!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭Black Thorn


    what styles do you play?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 505 ✭✭✭DerKaiser


    I can play most styles, from metal to jazz

    I won't play indie/post pop/new wave, U2, Oasis or the F@*king ting tings

    I would like to play in a big band, doing catchy but proggy rock tunes, with keys, strings, the works, but I'm open to most types of music,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 deadmanshand08


    im a guitarist in a covers band we recently lost our drummer so were lookin 1.
    doin stuff from led zep to radiohead to thin lizzy to muse. just so you know were not exactly ameteurs heres a link.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tOTat9AnW0

    get back 2 me if your interested. cheers!
    note:(i couldn upload the band doin a song because the sound quality of the camera isnt great when all the instruments are together)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,715 ✭✭✭Nalced_irl


    Guitareaxe wrote: »
    I'm 25 and wouldnt give a damn what age my band were as long as they were great musicians with the right attitude to work.

    I hear ya. Im currently in a band with 3 guys around 36 years old, im 27 and another is 21. Age doesnt matter once they can play and are committed to being the best they can be.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 greenandwhite


    DerKaiser wrote: »
    I won't play indie/post pop/new wave, U2, Oasis or the F@*king ting tings

    U2 & Oasis are the 2 biggest and best bands on planet earth right now (not opinion FACT) to lump the ting tings in there with those 2 shows your lack of knowledge of that particular genre, I suggest you go to The Mezz, theres always some pretentious blues ****e 27 minute guitar solo rubbish on in there you might find the perfect band to play your fret **** with. You did yourself out of a paying gig with this thread. :cool:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭Guitareaxe


    U2 & Oasis are the 2 biggest and best bands on planet earth right now (not opinion FACT) to lump the ting tings in there with those 2 shows your lack of knowledge of that particular genre, I suggest you go to The Mezz, theres always some pretentious blues ****e 27 minute guitar solo rubbish on in there you might find the perfect band to play your fret **** with. You did yourself out of a paying gig with this thread. :cool:

    Little harsh don't ya think. He expresses his personal taste in music and this is your response. Usually people who accuse others of fret w***ing are those who cannot play a solo to save there lives and know about as much music theory as bands like the ting tings :cool: I think it's envy.

    By the way the biggest current bands on the planet by sales are AC/DC and The Rolling Stones - 200 million plus records sold each. U2 are around the 150 million mark, and Oasis have just tipped 50 million. get your facts correct before making such statements.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 505 ✭✭✭DerKaiser


    U2 & Oasis are the 2 biggest and best bands on planet earth right now (not opinion FACT) to lump the ting tings in there with those 2 shows your lack of knowledge of that particular genre, I suggest you go to The Mezz, theres always some pretentious blues ****e 27 minute guitar solo rubbish on in there you might find the perfect band to play your fret **** with. You did yourself out of a paying gig with this thread. :cool:

    Cholera was big once too, U2 and Oasis being big bands only highlights how vapid the majority of people actually are, and like Guitaraxe said, people who use the term 'fretwank' are people that are usually incapable of stringing 4 chords together, I hate punk, I hate new wave, I hate indie pop, learn the 4th fookin chord you mediochre twats! The stage is a hallowth place were ineptitude does not belong! And when I go to the mezz all I get is some shoite, vacuous covers band playing U2, Oasis, REM, YAWN!!!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭Guitareaxe


    This is wrote: »
    there are plenty of sound lads on here, lots of people can second that. we got our drummer on this site.

    maybe the influences and visions of most of the so called "musos" who cant find a band are those of blinkered pipe dreamers.

    define REAL musician?
    thats a dumb statement.
    does this mean you are good on ur instrument?
    or that ur a hippy purest, the real deal?
    or that u played in the worlds greatest cover band?
    or that u really really want to be famous?
    or that you have expensive equipment?

    or that your the most obvious cliched free muso socialite busking in temple bar who has a mum n dad that can let u have free rent in town so you can do music in college n pretend ur poor to people just like you?

    REAL cant be defined.
    musicians come in the form of all angles, characters, influences, shapes, sizes... just have a little patience for god sake!!

    Real musician to me means someone who is experienced and can play their instrument, who know at least the general idea of music theory and can play for longer then 30 seconds without screwing the song up, oh and an ability to improvise is a bonus.

    For instance there is plenty of guitarists I know but I would only class some of them as musicians, as in they can perform music. quite simply because the rest of them cannot, they know a few riffs and licks but they couldnt perform anything without messing it up after 30 seconds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭raindog.promo


    Well, there's the gloves off.............


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭rachel_123


    Guitareaxe wrote: »
    Real musician to me means someone who is experienced and can play their instrument, who know at least the general idea of music theory and can play for longer then 30 seconds without screwing the song up, oh and an ability to improvise is a bonus.

    For instance there is plenty of guitarists I know but I would only class some of them as musicians, as in they can perform music. quite simply because the rest of them cannot, they know a few riffs and licks but they couldnt perform anything without messing it up after 30 seconds.


    would you consider a singer a real musician? I can read and write music notation, I can harmonise, I generally dont mess up, and I improvise all the time . oh and I can play my vocals damn well might I add!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 505 ✭✭✭DerKaiser


    Of course a vocalist is a real musician. A good one, not Bono :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭Rigsby


    rachel_123 wrote: »
    would you consider a singer a real musician? I can read and write music notation, I can harmonise, I generally dont mess up, and I improvise all the time . oh and I can play my vocals damn well might I add!

    In that case I'd consider you a musician, though there is the other type of "singer", i.e. the one you hear singing out of tune on a saturday night karaoke night. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭rachel_123


    Rigsby wrote: »
    In that case I'd consider you a musician, though there is the other type of "singer", i.e. the one you hear singing out of tune on a saturday night karaoke night. :D


    haha ah yes that , or the type that makes it big by simply singing other peoples music. im not saying these people are not talented - because frankly, a couple of them truly are - but i wouldn't call them musicians. more" performers".

    :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 need_a_singer


    I'm new to boards.ie and I'm not sure how to start a new topic yet, so apologies for piggy backing on this topic. Anyway, to the point. We (3 musicians) are looking for a singer to complete an original band. Any style of singer is welcome. We had been playing full time with a band for the last 3 years but things unfortunately sometimes do go sour and we're no longer involved with out singer. We've been writing and practicing a lot of new music for the last few months. We're very active and dedicated, rehearsing 5 days a week. This dedication is not a definite requirement for a potential singer as we understand that not everyone, who has a strong interest in music performance, has as much free time as we are lucky to have; so don't let that put you off. Anyway if you are interested in talking to us or know of someone who might be interested, we can be contacted on 087-6386908. We are based in Gorey in north Wexford. If you want to hear some of the music we've written, give us a ring on the number above and we can arrange something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭Guitareaxe


    rachel_123 wrote: »
    would you consider a singer a real musician? I can read and write music notation, I can harmonise, I generally dont mess up, and I improvise all the time . oh and I can play my vocals damn well might I add!

    Yeah of course, you qualify ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭Rigsby


    I'm new to boards.ie and I'm not sure how to start a new topic yet, so apologies for piggy backing on this topic. Anyway, to the point. We (3 musicians) are looking for a singer to complete an original band. Any style of singer is welcome. We had been playing full time with a band for the last 3 years but things unfortunately sometimes do go sour and we're no longer involved with out singer. We've been writing and practicing a lot of new music for the last few months. We're very active and dedicated, rehearsing 5 days a week. This dedication is not a definite requirement for a potential singer as we understand that not everyone, who has a strong interest in music performance, has as much free time as we are lucky to have; so don't let that put you off. Anyway if you are interested in talking to us or know of someone who might be interested, we can be contacted on 087-6386908. We are based in Gorey in north Wexford. If you want to hear some of the music we've written, give us a ring on the number above and we can arrange something.



    Hi, and welcome to "boards". :) At the bottom left hand corner of the forum you'll see "New Thread". This is where you start your own thread. Also, it's not advised to post mobile or private numbers. If you want to contact someone personally, then use the P.M. (private message) system. It might be a good idea to read the "Stickys" (kind of "rules") at the top of the forum.


    Hope you dont mind me giving you this friendly advice. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭sunnyside


    This is wrote: »
    define REAL musician?

    REAL cant be defined.
    musicians come in the form of all angles, characters, influences, shapes, sizes... just have a little patience for god sake!!

    I would define a real musician as someone who earns a living from playing music. Be that as singer/frontman in a band or as a keyboard/guitar player/drummer. A person who is on a payroll for playing music. If it doesn't pay bills you are not a musician. You are a person who plays music as a hobby. A wannabe musician. Of course that hobby might become a job at some point. That's wher lots of them started.

    Musicians are usually closer to 30 than 18. Many of them learned to play things like tin whistles and accordians when they were really young, went to fleadh ceoils and other events which many of the people on here calling themselves musicians would look down on. Such events and instruments are probably not what they do now but they grew up immersed in some form of music. It's a liifestyle a lot of them grew up with. Most of them are not people who decided to learn guitar at 16/17 because it was fashionable/attracts girls.
    Guitareaxe wrote: »
    Real musician to me means someone who is experienced and can play their instrument, who know at least the general idea of music theory and can play for longer then 30 seconds without screwing the song up, oh and an ability to improvise is a bonus.

    .

    30 seconds:eek:A real musician can keep it going for 2 and a half hours for a performance. Probably why most of them are closer to 30 than 18, it takes years of experience to do that. That's where the tin whistles and accordians learned when they were 5 years old gives them an advantage.


    Being on stage is a glamerous job. The lifestyle involved requires hard work and a messed up body clock for all the late nights.

    Generally real musicians avoid alcohol. Usually they will be driving home from their gigs.

    I'm not a musician but I do know a few:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,457 ✭✭✭Rigsby


    sunnyside wrote: »
    I would define a real musician as someone who earns a living from playing music. Be that as singer/frontman in a band or as a keyboard/guitar player/drummer. A person who is on a payroll for playing music. If it doesn't pay bills you are not a musician. You are a person who plays music as a hobby. A wannabe musician. Of course that hobby might become a job at some point. That's wher lots of them started.

    Musicians are usually closer to 30 than 18. Many of them learned to play things like tin whistles and accordians when they were really young, went to fleadh ceoils and other events which many of the people on here calling themselves musicians would look down on. Such events and instruments are probably not what they do now but they grew up immersed in some form of music. It's a liifestyle a lot of them grew up with. Most of them are not people who decided to learn guitar at 16/17 because it was fashionable/attracts girls.



    30 seconds:eek:A real musician can keep it going for 2 and a half hours for a performance. Probably why most of them are closer to 30 than 18, it takes years of experience to do that. That's where the tin whistles and accordians learned when they were 5 years old gives them an advantage.


    Being on stage is a glamerous job. The lifestyle involved requires hard work and a messed up body clock for all the late nights.

    Generally real musicians avoid alcohol. Usually they will be driving home from their gigs.

    I'm not a musician but I do know a few:)


    This is a very general and loose definition of a "musician" IMO. My personal idea would be anyone that can express themselves proficiently on their instrument in any genre. Age and money are neither here nor there. If they are making a living from music they are professional musicians, but being paid does not make them musicians IMO. There are lots of prodigies that can tick all these boxes before the age of 18 years.


    There are lots of great musicians around the world that would not know what a fleadh ceoil was...... oh wait..... there are not musicians, are they ? :p:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭sunnyside


    Rigsby wrote: »
    If they are making a living from music they are professional musicians, but being paid does not make them musicians

    But to say "I'm a musician" makes it a job description. "I like to play music in my spare time" is a hobby.

    "I'm a musician" shouldn't mean "I'm unemployed but I'd like to work at playing music/singing" That's stretching the truth.

    Being able to play music for 30 seconds without making a mistake doesn't make you a musician. Just like knowing a few sentences of French doesn't make you a french speaker. If you are taking flying lessons you can't describe yourself as a pilot.

    A musician should be able to play music or sing competently for 2-3 hours. It can't be somebody who knows 2 songs or can play for 5 minutes.

    Some musicians would have a music degree.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭setanta74


    Rigsby wrote: »
    My personal idea would be anyone that can express themselves proficiently on their instrument in any genre. Age and money are neither here nor there. If they are making a living from music they are professional musicians, but being paid does not make them musicians IMO.

    I agree with that. Very good definition of "musician" right there .


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