Another TNA TV Show?

Machismo Fan

http://www.pwinsider.com/article/40715/more-tna-on-spiketv-in-our-future.html?p=1

TNA is currently negotiating a new deal with SpikeTV. According to a source at SpikeTV, one of the current points being discussed is TNA getting an additional 1-2 hours of original programming
for week.

As reported on PWInsider.com earlier in the week, one pitch was for a "pure" X-Division show. In the past, TNA has discussed an all Knockouts series and graduating the TNA Spin Cycle from an online series to a full weekly series.

TNA currently has two hours for Impact, plus an additional two hours for a Saturday replay.

I'd like to see an extra hour of X-Division matches every week. Give the division a platform to really show what they can do without the "main eventers" always getting in the way.

smilerf

id second that jay lethal daniels creed suicide homicide mcmg etc it'd be class.
lets hope joe doesnt win the title at hard justice

DM_7

An X divison show would be great to watch.

flahavaj

Machismo Fan wrote: »

http://www.pwinsider.com/article/40715/more-tna-on-spiketv-in-our-future.html?p=1



I'd like to see an extra hour of X-Division matches every week. Give the division a platform to really show what they can do without the "main eventers" always getting in the way.

Not a bad idea actually. Bring in a few imports to stop t going stale each week. I'm thinking the likes of Jack Evans, Teddy Hart or a few of the luchadores from AAA, or the Dragon Gate guys when they're over for the DGUSA PPV's. Even the likes of Dragon and El Generico from ROH on a once off basis.

Fozzy

If they were to do an all-X Division show and it ended up getting higher ratings than Impact, can you imagine the reaction of guys like Booker, Steiner, Nash, etc

smilerf

Fozzy wrote: »

If they were to do an all-X Division show and it ended up getting higher ratings than Impact, can you imagine the reaction of guys like Booker, Steiner, Nash, etc

they'd go bananas but if that did happen then maybe tna would start pushing younger stars instead of over the hill overpaid hasbeens

geeky

Fozzy wrote: »

If they were to do an all-X Division show and it ended up getting higher ratings than Impact, can you imagine the reaction of guys like Booker, Steiner, Nash, etc

Trying desperately to find an image of Booker T doing his crazy wide-eyed thing....

They could do an hour-long behind the scenes show, putting Jeremy Borash in the Springer spot. the real life shenanigans there would give most drama on telly a run for its money.

gimmick

That is an interesting point, but in all honesty, I reckon it would be unlikley to out do impact ratings wise. My only basis for saying such is the tried and tested formuals show that its the big men who draw ratings, the smaller guys do not, hence the lack of any sort of decent cruerweight division in WWE.

If they drew, no way would Vince have allowed all that talent he once had, be let go.

With that being said, just because it has not worked in the past does not mean it never will. I would like to see this type of show.

Bubs101

It would never outdraw Impact.

Anyway, the women's segments are the best rated on the show so would they not be far far far more likely to run with a knokcouts only show?

geeky

Bubs101 wrote: »

It would never outdraw Impact.

Anyway, the women's segments are the best rated on the show so would they not be far far far more likely to run with a knokcouts only show?

Your probably right. Ugh, I don't know what it is, but I can't see the appeal. The 'beautiful people' look like total trailer trash, the storylines are much and there just isn't the same degree of athleticism in the matches. Surely people looking for scantily clad women to be running around and grunting get better kicks elsewhere?

Machismo Fan

Bubs101 wrote: »

Anyway, the women's segments are the best rated on the show so would they not be far far far more likely to run with a knokcouts only show?

But then if the Knockouts are taken out of iMPACT! that might cut iMPACT!'s ratings so I'd say if they're to give anybody their own show it'd be the X-Division as that's been treated as a joke for the last two years so it wouldn't really add or take away from iMPACT!'s ratings. It would also give the X-Division a platform to re-establish themselves if they're put out there every week to just do what they do best - wrestle.

Bubs101

Yeah but wrestling doesn't draw ratings. Look at Smackdown. Not that ratings are important anymore but both companies both strive to get great ones. If they do get another show it will almost certainly be the exact same with the exact same stars. What they should do is just port the UK epic (name?) highlights show to promote the wrestling on their PPVs

Machismo Fan

Bubs101 wrote: »

Yeah but wrestling doesn't draw ratings. Look at Smackdown.

I disagree here. Smackdown doesn't get good ratings because it's on a crappy network that nobody watches as it has little other original programming. Smackdown does pretty good ratings considering where it is (especially the 2.0 it got recently).

EdK

Smackdown is on a crap station that isnt going to draw anyway, They have a great wrestling based show most weeks

Snakeblood

gimmick wrote: »

That is an interesting point, but in all honesty, I reckon it would be unlikley to out do impact ratings wise. My only basis for saying such is the tried and tested formuals show that its the big men who draw ratings, the smaller guys do not, hence the lack of any sort of decent cruerweight division in WWE.

If they drew, no way would Vince have allowed all that talent he once had, be let go.

With that being said, just because it has not worked in the past does not mean it never will. I would like to see this type of show.

It's not a tested formula though. Cruiserweights have never been promoted as the main event calibre attraction, apart from Rey Mysterio, possibly, and he drew pretty damn good ratings, even when Khali, Kane, and the Big Show were stepping on him when he was champion. It's more that Vince doesn't believe in them so they don't get pushed, so they don't draw, so there's no point pushing them, so the don't draw, so there's no point pushing them.

Mind you he's running the only really succesful wrestling company so he may well be right in his assessment.

JP Liz

If they do an all-X Division show it would be very good - i'd just hope the wrestlers like Daniels, Lethal, MCGM, Homicide etc would also appear on Impact

Vince135792003

Plus Smackdown is on a horrible day over there.

Rjd2

Machismo Fan wrote: »

I disagree here. Smackdown doesn't get good ratings because it's on a crappy network that nobody watches as it has little other original programming. Smackdown does pretty good ratings considering where it is (especially the 2.0 it got recently).

Its on a network where its the only original content, everything else is repeats and of course the friday night slot is ridiculous. It could do better maybe if Cena was on their but even then It would probably be another .2 or .3 which would be nice but the WWE can live without it.

Bubs101

Machismo Fan wrote: »

I disagree here. Smackdown doesn't get good ratings because it's on a crappy network that nobody watches as it has little other original programming. Smackdown does pretty good ratings considering where it is (especially the 2.0 it got recently).

I don't have the exact figures but after Smackdown moved it did much much better than that. Then it dipped and dipped

gimmick

Machismo Fan wrote: »

I disagree here. Smackdown doesn't get good ratings because it's on a crappy network that nobody watches as it has little other original programming. Smackdown does pretty good ratings considering where it is (especially the 2.0 it got recently).

But is it not arguable that SD i son a crappy network because it has tended to consistently draw poor ratings? So we have a level of chicken and egg going on here.

As for it being on a bad day, I do not really see how. Friday is a good day for kids, and that is the demographic Vince is after nowadays.

Machismo Fan

Bubs101 wrote: »

I don't have the exact figures but after Smackdown moved it did much much better than that. Then it dipped and dipped

But they didn't really drop off until March when My Network TV cut all original programming in February. It stayed strong for about two weeks before plummeting and I'd say the network had a lot to do with that.

Rjd2

Machismo Fan wrote: »

But they didn't really drop off until March when My Network TV cut all original programming in February. It stayed strong for about two weeks before plummeting and I'd say the network had a lot to do with that.

Gimmick their is still a big audience out their who are in the late teens and early 20's who still watch wrestling who may want to do other things on a friday night. They also stick the episodes up on Hulu and promoted that quite hard on the website, not really the actions of a company panicking over the ratings is it?

The issue with the network is spot on as stated by MF, I recall the show when the ratings went through the floor was an episode where their was little wrestling and heaily promo orientated like Raw.

Cena, Hunter, Orton, Edge and Batista the companies biggest stars dominated the show but it drew a 1.6 which was shocking, now if they cannot draw on that show what can?

SD is never going to be the ratings monster that Raw is and I think its very harsh to expect it to be doing huge numbers when you are on a dreadful network, without Edge and Taker and on a graveyard shift trying to draw fans who may be burned out by a wrestling heavy week with the likes of Raw, SD,ECW and Tna.

Vince135792003

gimmick wrote: »

As for it being on a bad day, I do not really see how. Friday is a good day for kids, and that is the demographic Vince is after nowadays.

The shows strongest demographic for an episode 2 weeks ago was males 35 to 49 followed by males 18 to 34 according to the observer. One would think that if they moved the show to another weekday, the rating in these demographics would rise as Friday night is a night when more people go out.

Machismo Fan

http://www.pwinsider.com/article/40763/new-tnaspiketv-deal-reached.html?p=1

TNA Knockout Awesome Kong posted on her twitter account that TNA and SpikeTV have reached a new three year TV deal. We haven't independently confirmed that as of this writing, but I know negotiations had been closing in the last week.

Fozzy

TNA and Spike sent out a press release about the new deal and there will be a new show featuring "the biggest names in TNA". It will be one hour long and there will be ten of them. I'm guessing before PPVs, and it sounds like it could be the same as the Epics program over here

Machismo Fan

http://www.pwinsider.com/article/40771/tna-and-spiketv-officially-announce-new-television-agreement-series-of-tna-specials-included.html?p=1

SPIKE TV AND TNA WRESTLING EXTEND PARTNERSHIP THROUGH 2012

Deal Includes New Weekly Installments Of “TNA: iMPACT!” And The Addition Of New Original Series Of Specials

Spike TV and Total Nonstop Action (TNA) Wrestling have agreed to a new, three-year extension of their partnership, it was announced jointly today by Kevin Kay, President, Spike TV and Dixie Carter, President of TNA Entertainment.

The deal, which begins October 1, 2009, includes three new years of TNA’s weekly “iMPACT!” show as well as the addition of a new original series of one-hour specials. Each special (title TBD) will feature the biggest personalities and highlight some the greatest and awe-inspiring bouts in the history of TNA, many of them never before seen on basic cable. TNA Entertainment will produce 10 one-hour installments.

“TNA: iMPACT!” is coming off its highest-rated and most-watched quarter on Spike TV. During 2Q09, more than 1.8 million viewers on average tuned in to “TNA: iMPACT!” on Spike each week. Overall, “TNA: iMPACT!” saw an impressive 31% overall growth compared to YAGO, with double digit increases in the key demographics of M18-49 (+33%) and P18-49 (+40).*

“With the tremendous success and record ratings we have achieved over the past three years, we are very happy to continue to have Spike TV as TNA Wrestling’s partner,” said Carter. “We are excited to continue our relationship with the fantastic team that has supported TNA from the very beginning, and look forward to even greater success with all of our TNA programming on Spike TV.”

“TNA Wrestling has consistently delivered strong ratings in key male demographics and has continually grown its weekly audience. In the past year alone, “iMPACT!" has seen a remarkable increase of 30% in overall growth," said Kay. “We are excited to not only continue but also expand our relationship with the world’s fastest growing wrestling organization.”

Cross The Line to TNA Wrestling, the most innovative experience in professional wrestling today. Watch "TNA iMPACT!" every Thursday night (9:00-11:00 PM, ET/PT) only on Spike TV. TNA Entertainment, LLC is a privately held company headquartered in Nashville, Tenn.

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