Limerick vs Tipperary Prediction Thread

thomond2006

Who will win and by how much?

Be honest now...

Diabhal Beag

Tipp are going to win by points after a dreadful second half performance and a Limerick comeback.

I really hope Tipp win because they are the only team in Ireland with a chance of beating Killkenny.

Mossy Monk

Tipperary to win by 5 points.

bluedolphin

Draw

Tipp will either crash and burn in the first 10 minutes by a fired up Limerick squad or else batter them to pieces. My heart says Limerick (and I voted that way ) but my head says probably Tipp. There's no chance for Limerick v. Kilkenny if they make it through.

C'mon the boys in green!!

Peadar87

Tipp by about 6 points. Tipp will have too much up front for limerick.

grenache

Tipp to win pulling up. 5 or 6 points in the difference.

premierstone

Tipp by 6-9 that inside forward line of Corbett, Kelly and McGrath scares me and im from Tipp :eek:

soccymonster

Draw

bluedolphin wrote: »

Tipp will either crash and burn in the first 10 minutes by a fired up Limerick squad or else batter them to pieces. My heart says Limerick (and I voted that way ) but my head says probably Tipp. There's no chance for Limerick v. Kilkenny if they make it through.

C'mon the boys in green!!

im thinking the exact same thing as you :P.

Rocky7

I hope it's Tipperary because I can't see Limerick giving Kilkenny a good run for it. I really hope we see a change this year and that Tipp go all the way.

grenache

I know everyone wants Tipp to win because people couldn't see Limerick beating KK, but i couldn't see Tipp taking the Cats either. I know people will point to the league meeting, etc, but everytime KK meet Tipp in the championship in recent years, they just raise their game. Remember the game (2004 i think?) where KK played ping-pong with Cummins' goals? I can see that happening again. Just like Limerick always raise their game for Tipp, KK always raise their game for Tipp too. Tipp are a little ahead of the rest of the posse at the moment no doubt. But the gap to Kilkenny is much bigger. I have no doubt Tipp would give them a good game, but i doubt they would beat them in a final. This KK team are just on a different level to everyone else. So for me, as regards the destination of Liam, its irrelevant who wins tomorrow, as not even Limerick and Tipp put together would beat the Cats.

premierstone

grenache wrote: »

I know everyone wants Tipp to win because people couldn't see Limerick beating KK, but i couldn't see Tipp taking the Cats either. I know people will point to the league meeting, etc, but everytime KK meet Tipp in the championship in recent years, they just raise their game. Remember the game (2004 i think?) where KK played ping-pong with Cummins' goals? I can see that happening again. Just like Limerick always raise their game for Tipp, KK always raise their game for Tipp too. Tipp are a little ahead of the rest of the posse at the moment no doubt. But the gap to Kilkenny is much bigger. I have no doubt Tipp would give them a good game, but i doubt they would beat them in a final. This KK team are just on a different level to everyone else. So for me, as regards the destination of Liam, its irrelevant who wins tomorrow, as not even Limerick and Tipp put together would beat the Cats.

Tipperary's record against KK in championship is excellent and far better than KK's against Tipp

grenache

premierstone wrote: »

Tipperary's record against KK in championship is excellent and far better than KK's against Tipp

Maybe so, but Tipp have yet to beat this particular KK team in the championship. I really dont think past records have any bearing on games. Its all about the here and now. Tipp have an excellent team and could wipe the floor with any team except KK. Right now there is not a team in Ireland capable of beating KK. I honestly think they are that good. Too much quality in too many positions. You keep two or three guys quiet and another couple of forwards will take up the scoring. Not to mention the armour they have on the bench if a player isn't performing.


I was working down in Clonmel a couple of weeks back and got talking to a Kilkenny man. Said he'd been at a training session the previous week and that something strange had happened. Cody, who was reffing the ''training game'', blew the whistle for a free. All the players were like 'whats going on here, he never blows during a match, for anything!'. Once at the start and once at the finish is when they mostly hear any whistle. He lets the 30 players get stuck in, and doesn't like to interrupt them for anything. I mean if the intensity of KK training sessions if this much, is it any wonder they're going for 4 in a row?! Dont think you'd see this kind of thing in any other county. Its scary just thinking about it :eek:

premierstone

grenache wrote: »

Maybe so, but Tipp have yet to beat this particular KK team in the championship. I really dont think past records have any bearing on games. Its all about the here and now. Tipp have an excellent team and could wipe the floor with any team except KK. Right now there is not a team in Ireland capable of beating KK. I honestly think they are that good. Too much quality in too many positions. You keep two or three guys quiet and another couple of forwards will take up the scoring. Not to mention the armour they have on the bench if a player isn't performing.


I was working down in Clonmel a couple of weeks back and got talking to a Kilkenny man. Said he'd been at a training session the previous week and that something strange had happened. Cody, who was reffing the ''training game'', blew the whistle for a free. All the players were like 'whats going on here, he never blows during a match, for anything!'. Once at the start and once at the finish is when they mostly hear any whistle. He lets the 30 players get stuck in, and doesn't like to interrupt them for anything. I mean if the intensity of KK training sessions if this much, is it any wonder they're going for 4 in a row?! Dont think you'd see this kind of thing in any other county. Its scary just thinking about it :eek:

They havent played each other so you coulod say the same about KK

grenache

premierstone wrote: »

They havent played each other so you coulod say the same about KK

2002 semi final and 2004 (i think) quarter final. Ok a lot of the current tipp team wasn't around then but you still had the likes of cummins, corbett, kelly and curran on the tipp team. And the KK still have most of their team from then. Not forgetting that Tipp were AI champions in '01 and went into the '02 semi final with realistic ambitions of beating KK. The 02 game was very nip and tuck, fantastic end to end hurling. KK won by 2 points i think. And 04 was a landslide victory for KK, where Tipp would have been beaten by much more if it were not for the heroics of Brendan Cummins. So there is history (or sort of) between these groups of players.

Alfie Boon

Draw

premierstone wrote: »

Tipperary's record against KK in championship is excellent and far better than KK's against Tipp

The old chestnut that Tipp people cling to like a set of rosary beads.
3 all irelands in 38 years and one of them against antrim!!!
I hope that ye do make it through to the final because you will find something waiting for ye boys,the like of which Tipp has never seen before;)

ADTR

Draw

Limerick by 2.

dartbhoy

Time for Tipp to play for the 70 minutes and show that they'll be worthy opponents for the cats,Tipp to win by 9 points.

O.A.P

Iv voted Tip I think they are the better team but Id like to see Limerick win. I would be surprised if any of them can beat the cats.

sparkydee

Alfie Boon wrote: »

The old chestnut that Tipp people cling to like a set of rosary beads.
3 all irelands in 38 years and one of them against antrim!!!
I hope that ye do make it through to the final because you will find something waiting for ye boys,the like of which Tipp has never seen before;)

Ha! I think tipp will do it they got caught last year against waterford and i don't think they'll want that again.
So what if we won against antrim they got there on merit. We still have a much better record than limerick;)

MickTipp

i actually cant believe that Limerick have gotten so many votes! tipp are by far the better team and they will show that tomorow, its not of matter of whether tipp will win but its a matter of how much they will win by! thats my honest opinion anyway

grenache

MickTipp wrote: »

its not of matter of whether tipp will win but its a matter of how much they will win by! thats my honest opinion anyway

Hmmmm, confident aren't we. I remember Tipp fans being as confident last year and against Wex in '07. I do think Tipp will win, but i wouldn't be that dismissive of Limerick. No better team to throw a spanner in the works

Carol_1985

Draw

Limerick by 5 points.

grenache

Carol_1985 wrote: »

Limerick by 5 points.

I wish i had your optimism

Shan75

Draw

Limerick to win by 3 points.

Stevecw

Tipp by 4, after leading by about 10 with 10 mins to go!

RHunce

Tipp by 4, from a limerick man :rolleyes:

conno16

tipp will wipe out limerick in the first half
this will prob be one sided
12 point win for the premier county
limerick should have been out of the championship in july
a weak weak semi final

another year without a challenge for kilkenny
IMO cork are the only county in ireland with the potential to stop this run over the course of the next 2 / 3 years

Mushy

conno16 wrote: »

tipp will wipe out limerick in the first half
this will prob be one sided
12 point win for the premier county
limerick should have been out of the championship in july
a weak weak semi final

another year without a challenge for kilkenny
IMO cork are the only county in ireland with the potential to stop this run over the course of the next 2 / 3 years

KK would steamroll the current Cork team. Tipp are a bit ahead of anyone else in challenging KK, and we'll hopefully see how close that is on the biggest stage in 3 weeks.

LeoB

I actually think this Tipp team is slightly over rated but they should have enough to edge past Limerick. I think Tipp will be happy to reach the final and maybe next year they could realistically set their sights on All Ireland

We are all writing Limerick off. They might misfire and annoy their supporters with their erratic displays but if the real Limerick turn up we could have a right good game. The Limerick players wont be suprised if they win either will Justin McCarthy.

Tipp by 5

conno16

Mushy wrote: »

KK would steamroll the current Cork team. Tipp are a bit ahead of anyone else in challenging KK, and we'll hopefully see how close that is on the biggest stage in 3 weeks.

my point relates to the next 2/3 years
clearly cork are rebuilding
i think they have the raw material to knock kk of their perch over the course of the next season or two
need to get rid of sean og and that keeper tho amongst others

davy fitz back with clare next year will prob make an impression as well

Mushy

conno16 wrote: »

my point relates to the next 2/3 years
clearly cork are rebuilding
i think they have the raw material to knock kk of their perch over the course of the next season or two
need to get rid of sean og and that keeper tho amongst others

davy fitz back with clare next year will prob make an impression as well

Re-building takes many years. It'll be at least that long before they challenge for Munster let alone a KK team of this standard on an All-Ireland level.

enniscorthy

will defo be brill no matter what the outcome would have to say TIPP

DDC1990

Tipp, by 4.

Orizio

conno16 wrote: »

my point relates to the next 2/3 years
clearly cork are rebuilding
i think they have the raw material to knock kk of their perch over the course of the next season or two
need to get rid of sean og and that keeper tho amongst others

davy fitz back with clare next year will prob make an impression as well

Nonsense. We have no 'raw material', we haven't won a All-Ireland underage in Hurling for eight years, while Sean Og is the one veteran that, along with Ben O'Connor, is actually playing well.

Cork will not win another All-Ireland in Hurling for at least 5+ years. Thats being generous, and based on considerable underage success that probably won't happen.

ADTR

Draw

Looks like game over already.

Queen-Mise

ADTR wrote: »

Looks like game over already.

Tipperary have the habit of taking the foot off the pedal - they did it with Cork & Clare.

And Limerick after their half time will come out a different team and open a can of whoop ass.

I can never trust Tipp winning till I hear the final whistle.

Come on Tipp.

Orizio

It really says much about the quality of hurling over the pasat few years that a team as bad and limited as Limerick can repeatedly get into All-Ireland semi finals.

Queen-Mise

Orizio wrote: »

It really says much about the quality of hurling over the pasat few years that a team as bad and limited as Limerick can repeatedly get into All-Ireland semi finals.

Is that not the faults of the back door system though?

Orizio

Queen-Mise wrote: »

Is that not the faults of the back door system though?

No, its because there are is one 1 great team in the country, 3 good ones and a load of ****e underneath. No system could change that.

Daysha

Orizio wrote: »

No, its because there are is one 1 great team in the country, 3 good ones and a load of ****e underneath. No system could change that.

...and it's because of the current system that that those 4 good teams didn't reach the AI semis.

Orizio

Daysha wrote: »

...and it's because of the current system that that those 4 good teams didn't reach the AI semis.

What? Replace Galway with Limerick and the 4 best teams in the country would have gotten there.

Limerick had a lucky run in, that happens in the best though competition. This whole debate about structure just masks the real problem of a lack of competition and a lack of quality.

CR 7

Anybody guess the right score?

MickTipp

grenache wrote: »

Hmmmm, confident aren't we. I remember Tipp fans being as confident last year and against Wex in '07. I do think Tipp will win, but i wouldn't be that dismissive of Limerick. No better team to throw a spanner in the works

:P:P:P:P

LeoB

I tought Limerick would put a better show. Really disappointed with the match. Are Tipp that good or Limerick that bad. In all honesty a bit of both. Limerick for me played like headless chickens. The amount of ball they just handed over to Tipp stunned me, time after time hard ball won in defense was just cleared upfield to the free Tipp player. If an U/12 done what some Limerick players did I would kick their ass. The only thing I can think of is the players frooze. Simple catchs dropped, 5 yard hand passes missed, mis-hitting the ball, 2players contesting the one ball.

It did leave me wondering, How would Dublin have fared today against Tipp?

Do you experts on the small ball think Tipp will beat Kilkenny? I will go for Kilkenny to edge home by 4 points. I hear Cody is already planning for the final with a slight change in his practice matchs. He is giving free's.
I think the choice of ref for the final will be very important and Brian Cody knows that

Alfie Boon

Alfie Boon wrote: »

The old chestnut that Tipp people cling to like a set of rosary beads.
3 all irelands in 38 years and one of them against antrim!!!
I hope that ye do make it through to the final because you will find something waiting for ye boys,the like of which Tipp has never seen before;)

You accuse us of living off our record against kk yet you are still hinting at the beatings ye gave us in 02 and 03 and that league game back in march,, which will be very different from this years final in my opinion. i admit kk are a superb team and could give us a toasting but tipp are capable of playing some of the classiest hurling in Ireland and even the most ardent kk fan would give us a serious chance of doing a number on ye.

btw its not our fault we beat antrim in 89. they beat offaly in AI semi who won leinster that year. kilkenny didn't even get to the leinster final in 1989.

sparkydee

Deleted User wrote: »

You accuse us of living off our record against kk yet you are still hinting at the beatings ye gave us in 02 and 03 and that league game back in march,, which will be very different from this years final in my opinion. i admit kk are a superb team and could give us a toasting but tipp are capable of playing some of the classiest hurling in Ireland and even the most ardent kk fan would give us a serious chance of doing a number on ye.

btw its not our fault we beat antrim in 89. they beat offaly in AI semi who won leinster that year. kilkenny didn't even get to the leinster final in 1989.

+1

grenache

Limerick's lack of quality all over the park was the main reason for their poor showing. But i would agree that the tactics employed were all wrong and that they did resemble headless chickens. The Limerick half back line was well on top in the first 15 mins, but quite often they could not find their men in the forwards. This is as much to do with the forwards not showing for the ball as it is with the half backs poor striking. Putting Paul Browne as a third midfielder was a disaster, he did not touch the ball once! The only place for him is corner forward where he can use his pace. He's too light for midfield. All the time Paul Curran as the free man for Tipp, was clearing every ball in sight, giving Tipp forwards an unlimited supply of ball. Limerick needed to go man to man with them if they were to have any chance. That said, even if Limerick did play with 6 forwards, it would not have mattered. Tipp backs were outstanding. Special mention for Declan Fanning, brilliant yet again. But the rest weren't bad either. Pauraic Maher didn't give Paudie McNamara one ball and Limerick's main points man James Ryan was subdued all day by Brendan Maher. Tipp have 6 excellent scoring forwards, they're not carrying any passengers unlike Limerick *cough* Shaughnessy *cough*. It really was a combination of Tipp's brilliance and Limerick's poor hurling that led to the end result. I dont think Limerick are 24 points a worse them, however we are certainly many miles behind Tipp when it comes to the basics of the game.