Danny Riordan any good?

tbaymusicman

Apparently he played for connacht 37 time's and he is only 24 is he one for the future??Why i ask is he is making his debut against sale tomorrow:D

Bradley!!!:mad:

siltirocker

tbaymusicman wrote: »

Apparently he played for connacht 37 time's and he is only 24 is he one for the future??Why i ask is he is making his debut against sale tomorrow

I mean no insult in this, (you might just be a fan of the past year or two), but i find it shockin' that next to no Munster fans i have spoken to know who the fcek Riordan is, he was in the fcekin' Six Nations squad two/three years back and was being heralded as the next Dempsey/Murphy.

Last year he was plagued by injury and any time he did make an appearance he was sh1te, but alot of that could have been down to lack of confidence (Thank you Michael Bradley) as he has showed amazing potential when he was 21/22. As i said intially when he was signed he's a bit like Connacht's very own Jeremy Staunton.

tbaymusicman

What Bradley Shouldn't of let him go or what

tbaymusicman

siltirocker wrote: »

I mean no insult in this, (you might just be a fan of the past year or two),

No fan for years just have only got back into it lately:(

siltirocker

tbaymusicman wrote: »

siltirocker wrote: »

I mean no insult in this, (you might just be a fan of the past year or two),

No fan for years just have only got back into it lately:(

Thanks for not taking me up the wrong way!;)



Michael Bradley is a bad coach thats why.

He did a good job when he took Ireland to NZ.Maybe he just has **** players,I dont think they help.

Amazotheamazing

Bradley is a poor coach and it shows in players like Riordan. His game has never improved after he broke through, which is a pity, because he has as much talent as many of the guys who've made it to Int level recently.

tbaymusicman

Avery Faithful Pennon wrote: »

He did a good job when he took Ireland to NZ.Maybe he just has **** players,I dont think they help.

What bad players dont help?,dam someone should tell my other team newcastle that:o:o

SpAcEd OuT

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

Bradley is a poor coach and it shows in players like Riordan. His game has never improved after he broke through, which is a pity, because he has as much talent as many of the guys who've made it to Int level recently.

If thats the case then Kidney is a bad coach because of Kieran Lewis.

I'm afraid its not that simple, Bradley could be a very good coach but at the end of the day Jake White could be at Connacht and they'd probably still be as poor.

Amazotheamazing

SpAcEd OuT wrote: »

If thats the case then Kidney is a bad coach because of Kieran Lewis.

I'm afraid its not that simple, Bradley could be a very good coach but at the end of the day Jake White could be at Connacht and they'd probably still be as poor.

Please list the players Bradley has improved as their coach? Guys like Wynne and Gannon have gone backwards under him. Even Carr and keatley looked jaded by the end of last season.

Amazotheamazing

Amazotheamazing wrote: »

Please list the players Bradley has improved as their coach? Guys like Wynne and Gannon have gone backwards under him. Even Carr and keatley looked jaded by the end of last season.

To use a football analogy,do you think benitez develops young talent as good as wenger?
No he doesnt,Bradley probably has some very good things to add and maybe developing players isnt one of them,I think he is treated way too harshly,look at the players he has,they are utter ****e.

I bet you if you put him in charge of Leinster or Munster he would do very well,he is clearly capable as he has shown coaching Ireland.

Robbo

Avery Faithful Pennon wrote: »

I bet you if you put him in charge of Leinster or Munster he would do very well,he is clearly capable as he has shown coaching Ireland.

I bet that if his father-in-law put a shotgun to his jaffas and told him they were on the line, along with his job if he didn't start producing at Connacht, you'd see a marked improvement. The man probably has the safest job in the country.

Regarding Danny, if he can regain any of the potential he showed 3 years ago, he'll flourish at Munster. I see he's starting on the wing which is probably his best position with the way the game has gone.

danthefan

You can blame whatever you like on Bradley, in fact it seems to be a fairly stock response these days, but the fact is Riordan got released by Connacht. That is not good.

Re:Danthefan.Bradley also released James Downey a few years back and he's done alright for himself since.Danny is lucky to have got himself out of Connacht.He now has a chance to resurrect his career with Munster.

Also he has given a promotion to Troy Nathan.Let's just say this fellas commitment to his profession is questionable and even if he was willing to work he has precious little to offer.

Ireland didn't win either of the games on that tour ye are talking about and anyone who compares the Ireland A performances with Bradley in charge in comparison to Kidney would quickly see the difference.The performances on the 2008 tour were ok but all the soundings coming out was that Kidney was selecting the squad and Bradley was merely presiding over the training sessions.Also after a disastrous year for all parties it was a case of saving face a bit so I'm sure everyone was rejuvenated by any change of coach after 7 years of Eddie.

In fairness to him he did a good job for 2 years at Connacht but its been all downhill since.He has a reasonable standard of player to work with.There is no Dan Carter in there and the back up in a lot of positions is next to non-existent but there is the nucleus of a good competitive 19/20 man squad.Wilkinson,Cronin,Browne,Farley(who has since left),Muldoon,O'Connor,McCarthy,Murphy,Keatley,Carr,Matthews,Ta'auso etc. are all good players and others like Morris,Rigney,Bibo,Duffy etc. are well capable of doing a job.

Certainly the team we had was better than the 20 point total we accumulated over the season.

Basically I'd take it that Bradley was told by Dad in law that he was going to be stationed in Connacht for 2 years and if he made a decent fist of that a bigger job would be lined up for him.He publically committed to trying to get the Munster job a few years back and once Declan Kidney pushed himself into the frame Bradley was beaten.Therefore he said he'd stay with Connacht.Its been all downhill since.

As was pointed out he just doesn't have the hunger for the job any longer
and he is quickly becoming somewhat of a hate figure around these parts for not stepping aside when its obvious a fresh start is needed for all parties.

Liam Sammon stepped down from the Galway football job last night when he could have gone another year but he knew he'd lost the dressing room and the supporters and stepped down for the sake of Galway football.This concept is alien to Bradley.He could resurrect his career as an assistant coach at another side or as a specialist coach at another side.

Bradley has lost all self respect and all respect from players and supporters by holding on to the Connacht job when its obvious the job doesn't hold any hopes of success for either party.

[Jackass]

Bradley has done a decent job with Keatley and Carr imo. Gavin Duffy is good also, but the thing is, Connacht have a respectable team...I mean I don't think Bradley is a great coach, I think for the squad he had last season, he should have done a lot better, they showed a bit of form in the European Shield thing, but ML was shocking, but then they were able to up it for Leinster and Munster....the players are there, the talent to get good results and do well in competitions is there...

I think if Connacht still stay rooted to the bottom of the Magners this season he should finally go....whatever you say about his coaching ability, one thing is absolute fact, the Connacht squad has gotten significantly better over the last couple of years, and the Connacht performances have made absolutely no progress what so ever.

QF / SF of the shield used to be the norm back when Bradley took over, they even finished above bottom spot in the ML!!!! :eek:

Now they are the whipping boys of the league...a whopping 13 points off the pace last season from second from last Dragons, and a good cup run that had desterted them for the last couple of years, and along with the inter-pro wins, only served to show the talent and capability of the team, I just don't think it's structured in any way whatsoever or there is a massively ineffective game plan and from set pieces etc. in the ML, you sometimes have to wonder what they've been doing on the training pitch all week...

leeroybrown

Connacht's ongoing woes aside (renewed my season ticket during the week), Danny was a serious prospect three seasons ago. He was starting at fullback regularly, offered a genuine counter-attack threat from deep and was at the root of a lot of the better attacking play during the season. He was never the greatest under a high ball and the changes in the refereeing of the tackle area probably mean that he's better suited to wing play now. He's had injury problems over the last couple of years and has never recaptured the form or confidence he had beforehand.

Hopefully he can regain some of that form and confidence elsewhere because he looked like he had a brilliant future ahead of him when I used to watch him regularly at the Sportsground.

2040

I'm getting enthusiastic about his time at Munster now.

Amabokke

tbaymusicman wrote: »

Apparently he played for connacht 37 time's and he is only 24 is he one for the future??Why i ask is he is making his debut against sale tomorrow:D

At 24 he should've cemented his place and made a name for himself to be considered any good.

siltirocker

Bradley has let go of Flannery, Reddan, now Riordan yet offers a pro contract to supporters whipping boy Troy Nathan.

Connacht - technically getting worse every season since he took over.

leeroybrown

Amabokke wrote: »

At 24 he should've cemented his place and made a name for himself to be considered any good.

You've got a point but it's not quite as clear cut as that. He had one great season three years ago but the two since then have involved a lot of injuries and positional changes. The only time I remember him being fit enough to play regularly since then was at the very end of this season at which point his confidence seemed to be completely shot. Given the potential he had in his underage and early-professional career definitely worth a shot given that it won't exactly be an expensive contract. As long as they can get him fit that is...

siltirocker wrote: »

Bradley has let go of Flannery, Reddan, now Riordan yet offers a pro contract to supporters whipping boy Troy Nathan.

I don't often defend Bradley but I will say that he won't exactly have had a huge amount of choice when it came to Flannery and Reddan. Given the small number of development contracts that Connacht have I wouldn't expect us to be churning out stars but you can make up a decent list of players who were expected to make the grade but didn't do so under him. Troy goes without saying...

siltirocker

leeroybrown wrote: »

I don't often defend Bradley but I will say that he won't exactly have had a huge amount of choice when it came to Flannery and Reddan. Given the small number of development contracts that Connacht have I wouldn't expect us to be churning out stars but you can make up a decent list of players who were expected to make the grade but didn't do so under him. Troy goes without saying...

As far as my memory serves me Flannery and Reddan were released under Bradley and picked up by Munster ala Riordan. Reddan wasn't offered a full time pro contract after his 2 year development one and the same with Flannery (same summer too if im not mistaken).

leeroybrown

I always had the impression that the lack of contract offer in each case was on the basis of the IRFU wanting the players to go to Munster rather than Bradley wanting to release them. I'm open to correction if it's not the case though.

Robbo

siltirocker wrote: »

Bradley has let go of Flannery, Reddan, now Riordan yet offers a pro contract to supporters whipping boy Troy Nathan.

Connacht - technically getting worse every season since he took over.

There's a lot of satisfied publicans and ladies in Karma that won't have a bad word said against Troy...

siltirocker

Robbo wrote: »

There's a lot of satisfied publicans and ladies in Karma that won't have a bad word said against Troy...

Ha ha!:pac: So i've heard off a few!