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Turbo Unit Required for Bmw x5 - Advice Please

  • 10-08-2009 3:48pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,418 ✭✭✭


    I need to source a turbo unit for a BMW x5 ,

    I was Quoted €2300 From the Garage for the Part Inc Vat and i am trying to see if i can beat this Price

    Any help appreciated

    Neill


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,418 ✭✭✭BIG-SLICK-POKER


    any help would be really appreciated


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,234 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,418 ✭✭✭BIG-SLICK-POKER


    kbannon wrote: »

    Thanks , Do u know if there is any irish Companies Also?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,234 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    www.traynors.co.uk maybe

    I don't know about otto (www.otto.ie) or gsf (www.gsfcarparts.com)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,418 ✭✭✭BIG-SLICK-POKER


    kbannon wrote: »
    www.traynors.co.uk maybe

    I don't know about otto (www.otto.ie) or gsf (www.gsfcarparts.com)


    Thanks for the Info

    I am not an expert at this just want to make sure i am ordering the correct one if i do order it , Surely i can beat that price they gave

    The Jeep is a 03 x5 3.0L DIESEL E53 Series


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭mick.fr


    Thanks for the Info

    I am not an expert at this just want to make sure i am ordering the correct one if i do order it , Surely i can beat that price they gave

    The Jeep is a 03 x5 3.0L DIESEL E53 Series

    Hold on mate.
    Did you get the car diagnosed by a mechanic as suggested in your previous post?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Just ellaborate on the qoute, is it the part only? Or fitting too? Is it a new part? Recon? Broken from a vehicle?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭Crosshair


    Try Tom Cooney in Portlaoise, think its 087 2512218, hey will have one on the shelf, you will need all the numbers off the existing unit, price will be well under what you're quoting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭paddy2008


    www.fyfesdirect.co.uk
    They are based in newry!We in the trade use them every day!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,418 ✭✭✭BIG-SLICK-POKER


    mick.fr wrote: »
    Hold on mate.
    Did you get the car diagnosed by a mechanic as suggested in your previous post?


    Yes Turbo Charger went Bang


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,418 ✭✭✭BIG-SLICK-POKER


    EnterNow wrote: »
    Just ellaborate on the qoute, is it the part only? Or fitting too? Is it a new part? Recon? Broken from a vehicle?


    Total Bill will be €2950 Including Fitting of the Turbo and the Exhaust will need blowing out with the Oil that was Burnt off .also need to Flush out the oil and Condenser


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Yes Turbo Charger went Bang

    ...they usually need help to go BANG - you need to determine that before you fork out for another one........

    ...mind you, would have been cheaper to buy a petrol one at that rate........;)

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,613 ✭✭✭Lord Nikon


    When was the last oil change?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,974 ✭✭✭mick.fr


    I hope you realise you are being rapped for a turbo change @ 3k mate.
    for 3k you can get a complete refurbished engine, including turbo.
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-X5-3-0-TURBO-DIESEL-E53-2003-2007-ENGINE-SUPPLY-FIT_W0QQitemZ120456312258QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_localservices_car_vehicle_GL?hash=item1c0bc175c2&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14


    A turbo from a breaker with a warranty will probably be around 200-400 quids.
    Let say 2-3 hours fitting, you end up at 600 quids top.

    Anyways...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭Bearcat


    bmw 3.0 turbo's are widely known to let go if the inlet manifold breather filter not changed and circa 50k the inlet manifold and egr not de coked....they cake up with carbon if not cleaned....a filthy job. result of not preventative maint is back pressure over time on the turbo and bang.:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 650 ✭✭✭blackiebest


    Interesting thread, OP make sure you update us with the full price you end up paying, at the moment we have a circa 2.3k difference from top to bottom price wise (almost 400%:confused:). That only happens in this country!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,418 ✭✭✭BIG-SLICK-POKER


    mick.fr wrote: »
    I hope you realise you are being rapped for a turbo change @ 3k mate.
    for 3k you can get a complete refurbished engine, including turbo.
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-X5-3-0-TURBO-DIESEL-E53-2003-2007-ENGINE-SUPPLY-FIT_W0QQitemZ120456312258QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_localservices_car_vehicle_GL?hash=item1c0bc175c2&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14


    A turbo from a breaker with a warranty will probably be around 200-400 quids.
    Let say 2-3 hours fitting, you end up at 600 quids top.

    Anyways...

    They are Charging me for 12 Hours Work ? Thats the Turbo Change and all the rest that comes with it that i dont know.

    I am still sourcing at the moment . They have said that if i can get that part that they will fit it but wont Guarantee if it is not an original


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,418 ✭✭✭BIG-SLICK-POKER


    Crosshair wrote: »
    Try Tom Cooney in Portlaoise, think its 087 2512218, hey will have one on the shelf, you will need all the numbers off the existing unit, price will be well under what you're quoting.



    Lovely Man called him there baffled by how i got his number on teh internet
    lol

    Quoted me €900+ Vat for the Part

    Bolands Waterford - Same Part €1900+ Vat

    Traynors Belfast - £300 Second Hand (None in Stock)


    No wonder Car Garage like BMW are struggling they deserve to go bust ripping off customers like that how can they Charge an extra €1000 for the same gerret Part


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    Main dealers will always be the dearest option. But then again, and Im open to correction on this, but afaik there is a 24 month warranty with part sales through BMW.

    The man you rang - his price is competetive, but did he ellaborate on the part? Is it used/overhauled/broken from an existing car? Warranty on it? Im simply saying that before you go ahead and purchase a critical part like a turbo unit, then have it physically installed in the car - be sure the same thing isnt going to happen again in 5/6 months time. Verify its the correct turbo, verify its past usage if any, do you gave a warranty with it, will the garage warrant labour if it fails again?

    For what you would have saved, you could have to do the whole thing again - particularly if the garage wont warrant the self supplied part if it fais to be genuine. Just be sure to be certain, before you dive in to what sounds like a good deal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Mr.Diagnostic


    BMW don’t make the Turbos they fit. The unit the OP has sourced from Portlaoise will be a new unit that is identical to the one a dealer would supply except it wil not come in a BMW box.

    I would be amazed if any garage would give the OP a warranty on a part they did not supply. Why would they?

    The labour price the OP got seems pretty good too. There is a lot of work involved in this job.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Useless Factoid: Garrett turbo's, or parts thereof, are made in Waterford.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭gofaster_s13


    False economy to fit 2nd hand or reconned turbos to BMW's, not sure if its still the case but BMW had an agreement with Garrett not to supply turbos to the aftermarket(common with manufacturers to have this kind of agreement for the first few years of a models life) and that the units been sold by parts/turbo dealers were in fact the returned surcharged units reconned by a company contracted to garrett to overhaul them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    False economy to fit 2nd hand or reconned turbos to BMW's, not sure if its still the case but BMW had an agreement with Garrett not to supply turbos to the aftermarket(common with manufacturers to have this kind of agreement for the first few years of a models life) and that the units been sold by parts/turbo dealers were in fact the returned surcharged units reconned by a company contracted to garrett to overhaul them.

    That's just a money-thing, it's nothing to do with whether they're good or bad - it's just to keep all the parts going through official channels.....

    ........which means they can be re-cond (sic).......and still be o.k.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 942 ✭✭✭gofaster_s13


    Its a brand thing, an attempt to keep the fitting of certain componants in-house to ensure the fitting of the parts is done in accordance to manufacturers instructions to try and maintain BMW's perceived image of reliability, there is a lot more to fitting a turbo than just taking off the old one and fitting the new one(which is what tends to happen if you bring it to a non-franchised garage)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭bcmf


    Have you though of getting the Turbo rebuilt as its gotta come out regradless. I have a number of a place that does it. Pm if interested.Got my Turbo for Paj done there and it was perfect.


    And no I have no vested interest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,209 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    Sent my turbo to Turbo Technics in the UK as the seals were on their way out. They did a total overhaul and went through all details with me on the phone - very impressed with their service


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 HighMan


    Check out Assured Performance. They are in the golden pages. They are good guys and really know their stuff. You will get a brand new turbo there for alot less than the main dealers. I would advise against putting a second hand turbo into a car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,418 ✭✭✭BIG-SLICK-POKER


    HighMan wrote: »
    Check out Assured Performance. They are in the golden pages. They are good guys and really know their stuff. You will get a brand new turbo there for alot less than the main dealers. I would advise against putting a second hand turbo into a car.


    Nice one have it down to €850 now Inc Vat for it with these

    Thanks dont think i will beat this

    Neill


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