Ik Multimedia Ampeg SVX

SeanHurley

Anyone using this? If so is it any good. I have a few D.I.'d bass tracks that I want to treat. I don't have access to a decent amp at the minute and I have been looking at this as a possible useful tool. Is there anything better out there for bass?

i57dwun4yb1pt8

you could always try the pod xt with the bass packs , its pretty damn good for creating a di amp sim .

and i know someone who is selling one , with bass packs installed already

* ACHOOOOooooooooooooooo *

SeanHurley

I actually have one of those with the bass packs hmmm maybe that is the route to go. I see that you can get pod farm for like $49 or something if you have a pod xt hmm might be worth looking into.

It was just that I have heard some good things about this ampeg yoke and wondering has onyone here used it.

Thanks dude

Seziertisch

SeanHurley wrote: »

Anyone using this? If so is it any good. I have a few D.I.'d bass tracks that I want to treat. I don't have access to a decent amp at the minute and I have been looking at this as a possible useful tool. Is there anything better out there for bass?

Don't you have a Hiwatt guitar amp? The custom Hiwatts seem to get a lot of love as bass amps as well. It seems that a lot of bass sounds you hear on records are a combo of DI and amp. It might be an idea to get a phase alteration plug (like the Little Labs one on the UAD, although there are other similar ones out there) and use that to get the 2 signals phase coherent.

i57dwun4yb1pt8

actually i tried my bass thorugh my mesa f 50 last night , and it sounded pretty damn good

SeanHurley

Seziertisch wrote: »

Don't you have a Hiwatt guitar amp? The custom Hiwatts seem to get a lot of love as bass amps as well. It seems that a lot of bass sounds you hear on records are a combo of DI and amp. It might be an idea to get a phase alteration plug (like the Little Labs one on the UAD, although there are other similar ones out there) and use that to get the 2 signals phase coherent.

I do have a HiWatt indeed, unfortunately I only got it in May and by June it was giving some trouble with wiring. It is currently being "looked after" by X-Music. waiting to hear back from them, it seems to be taking ages to sort out:mad:

I have that little labs plug for the UAD, very useful little thing indeed.

PaulBrewer

What might be a plan if your core bass sound is pretty tight is make a clone of the track and distort that a bit and mix it to your original.

That should give it a bit of 'hair' but not make the lower octaves too wooly. Maybe even Hi-Pass the FX track and Lo-Pass the original.

Seziertisch

The thing you are looking for with an amped bass track is some pushed air to combine with your DI (which should have the punch and detail). Get a blend of the two of going and eq/compress to taste. It might also be worth trying to reamp through an overdriven guitar amp so that you have bit of crunch to add to the sound. A lot of times a bit of dirt blended with the clean is what can really get the bass to punch through in a rock recording. In terms of low end any EL34/6l6 amp will have plenty. The amp doesn't have to be crazy loud either.

SeanHurley

PaulBrewer wrote: »

What might be a plan if your core bass sound is pretty tight is make a clone of the track and distort that a bit and mix it to your original.

That should give it a bit of 'hair' but not make the lower octaves too wooly. Maybe even Hi-Pass the FX track and Lo-Pass the original.

Ok so my problem is this, I recorded a Gibson T-Bird direct down in Joe's place. It sounds great, there is just too much of it so I was notching out bits and compressing but I always seem to get an overly boomy sound (especially after compression) this is were I am probably showing my niavity as an engineer. I am never happy with my low end it always seems unpredictable - certain notes jump out or else it swamps the whole tune.

I thought that maybe getting a tighter sound using an amp might help. Have ya any suggestions?

PaulBrewer

Seziertisch wrote: »

The thing you are looking for with an amped bass track is some pushed air to combine with your DI (which should have the punch and detail). Get a blend of the two of going and eq/compress to taste. It might also be worth trying to reamp through an overdriven guitar amp so that you have bit of crunch to add to the sound. A lot of times a bit of dirt blended with the clean is what can really get the bass to punch through in a rock recording. In terms of low end any EL34/6l6 amp will have plenty. The amp doesn't have to be crazy loud either.

..... and fools seldom differ.

PaulBrewer

SeanHurley wrote: »

Ok so my problem is this, I recorded a Gibson T-Bird direct down in Joe's place. It sounds great, there is just too much of it so I was notching out bits and compressing but I always seem to get an overly boomy sound (especially after compression) this is were I am probably showing my niavity as an engineer. I am never happy with my low end it always seems unpredictable - certain notes jump out or else it swamps the whole tune.

I thought that maybe getting a tighter sound using an amp might help. Have ya any suggestions?

What you're describing could be your room too ....

SeanHurley

PaulBrewer wrote: »

What you're describing could be your room too ....

You know what you are probably right, plus as well I am just getting used to the TB2s - I actually have a bass end now ha ha.

I suppose I will just need to test mixes on loads of systems for a bit until I get used to the speakers.

What way would you normally process a D.I.'d bass track. Bear in mind I have no reamp box.

PaulBrewer

SeanHurley wrote: »

You know what you are probably right, plus as well I am just getting used to the TB2s - I actually have a bass end now ha ha.

I suppose I will just need to test mixes on loads of systems for a bit until I get used to the speakers.

What way would you normally process a D.I.'d bass track. Bear in mind I have no reamp box.

Exactly ! ... and the ole PMCs wouldn't be particularly large down the bottom.

Normally you'll see/hear by the waveform how consistent the notes are volume wise - if they are pretty even a bit of compression may be all you need.

bedbugs

Ampeg SVX is awesome. I use it even on bass lines recorded through an amp. It's meaty and gorgeous.

trackmixstudio

Fender P Bass to phoenix audio di.
Bit of eq and lots of compression with urs channel strip pro does it for me.
A quality di makes ALL the difference.
The Phoenix sounds FAR FAR better than my bss di into focusrite isa pre.
I find bass amp sims to be very boomy, boosting the frequencies that I would normally take out. there is much less low frequency on the bass guitar than you think on most records. It's all about locking with the kick.
Try sidechain compressing the bass using the kick as sidechain. Fast attack and fast release with about 2db reduction. The bass will now leave room for the kick and fill the low end between them. You will be able to have the bass louder in the mix without cluttering the low end.
I have a warwick tubepath 5 head and 2 4x10 cabs in the studio and have not used them for recording in years.