Best player in each province?

Spiritoftheseventies

Okay this to get away a bit from us and them. Pick your best football player from each province and one cant be from your own team.

And at end of thread post the best young player at the moment. All counties to be placed in brackets with your entries.

homerjay2005

Gooch is the best player from Munster and has been for 6 years. Picking a player outside of Kerry, would be -


Canty in Munster.
Kavanagh in Ulster.
Meehan in Connacht.
Alan Brogan in Lenister.

Spiritoftheseventies

homerjay2005 wrote: »

Gooch is the best player from Munster and has been for 6 years. Picking a player outside of Kerry, would be -


Canty in Munster.
Kavanagh in Ulster.
Meehan in Connacht.
Alan Brogan in Lenister.

Yes good selection. Michael Meehan a great player. Just cant understand why Galway with the talent they have have underperformed in the last few years. A wonderful football team when they get going.

homerjay2005

bayviewclose wrote: »

Yes good selection. Michael Meehan a great player. Just cant understand why Galway with the talent they have have underperformed in the last few years. A wonderful football team when they get going.

galway are a team i admire, but they dont have the steel to win games hard. lovely ball will get you so far, but they lack the bite needed to win tight games, as we saw against donegal.

Spiritoftheseventies

homerjay2005 wrote: »

galway are a team i admire, but they dont have the steel to win games hard. lovely ball will get you so far, but they lack the bite needed to win tight games, as we saw against donegal.

yes good point. your four top players by the way?

tred

homerjay2005 wrote: »

galway are a team i admire, but they dont have the steel to win games hard. lovely ball will get you so far, but they lack the bite needed to win tight games, as we saw against donegal.

I think galway need to refocus again after this poor season. It was this time last year we saw one of the best games in croke park between galway and kerry. a lot of stick this year given against P Joyce, which was unfair. Were starting to be a little thin on the forward again and rely too much on meehan.
Back to basics. there is a decent squad of players there. Against Donegal,. 2 bad teams on the day as cork showed donegal a week later. The amount of wides again, against donegal was frustrating.

Spiritoftheseventies

tred wrote: »

I think galway need to refocus again after this poor season. It was this time last year we saw one of the best games in croke park between galway and kerry. a lot of stick this year given against P Joyce, which was unfair. Were starting to be a little thin on the forward again and rely too much on meehan.
Back to basics. there is a decent squad of players there. Against Donegal,. 2 bad teams on the day as cork showed donegal a week later. The amount of wides again, against donegal was frustrating.

Sorry got a bit off track here. Not really a discussion about galway. Was just making a point about Meehan in relation to another poster. My fault. Can you submit your top four players. see original post for terms of reference.

Lemlin

bayviewclose wrote: »

Okay this to get away a bit from us and them. Pick your best football player from each province and one cant be from your own team.

And at end of thread post the best young player at the moment. All counties to be placed in brackets with your entries.

It's usually a good idea to give your own selection when starting a thread like this....

brandon_flowers

Graham Canty - Munster
Michael Meehan - Connacht
Aaron Kernan - Ulster
Dermot Earley - Leinster

Young Player - Michael Murphy

WinstonSmith

brandon_flowers wrote: »

Graham Canty - Munster
Michael Meehan - Connacht
Aaron Kernan - Ulster
Dermot Earley - Leinster

Young Player - Michael Murphy

Disagree certainly with Aaron Kernan. He was hyped up a lot when he first arrived on the scene, to the point where he is now considered to be better than he actually is. One should especially consider that he was far from being even Armagh's best player this last couple of years. Of Course, Meehan is one of the best in Munster, but the question is very general and it is hard to tell how good one player is against another. For example, Michael Meehan mightn't get near me if he was playing corner back and I corner forward, but that most certainly should not suggest that I am a better footballer than him. With this in mind I would pick the following players for their all round talent and versatility:

Declan O'Sullivan (Kerry)
Sean Cavanagh (Tyrone)
Alan Dillon (Mayo)
Dermot Earley (Kildare)

Lemlin

I'm basing this on this year's championship alone (other years are not in contention)....

Sean Cavanagh (Tyrone)
Graham Canty (Cork)
Trevor Mortimer (Mayo)
Dermot Earley (Kildare)

Young player would have to be Micheal Murphy (Donegal).

phil

WinstonSmith wrote: »

For example, Michael Meehan mightn't get near me if he was playing corner back and I corner forward, but that most certainly should not suggest that I am a better footballer than him.

You're certainly not a better manager than he is if you play him corner back. I hear Declan O'Sullivan is crap in goals, so he probably shouldn't make your list.

Galway play in Connaught btw

For me:

Ulster: Stephen O'Neill
Connaught: Eamon O'Hara would have been there up to two years ago, but now I'm joining the Meehan brigade, O'Hara's not quite as good as he was.
Munster: Colm Cooper (the lads gifted, not many players I'd pay to go and see playing, he's one of them)
Leinster: Bernard Brogan

flahavaj

bayviewclose wrote: »

yes good point. your four top players by the way?

:rolleyes:

brandon_flowers

WinstonSmith wrote: »

Disagree certainly with Aaron Kernan. He was hyped up a lot when he first arrived on the scene, to the point where he is now considered to be better than he actually is. One should especially consider that he was far from being even Armagh's best player this last couple of years. Of Course, Meehan is one of the best in Munster, but the question is very general and it is hard to tell how good one player is against another. For example, Michael Meehan mightn't get near me if he was playing corner back and I corner forward, but that most certainly should not suggest that I am a better footballer than him. With this in mind I would pick the following players for their all round talent and versatility:

Declan O'Sullivan (Kerry)
Sean Cavanagh (Tyrone)
Alan Dillon (Mayo)
Dermot Earley (Kildare)

You make a very valid point about how hard it is to tell how good one player is against another and then criticise Aaron Kernan who is probably the most versatile footballer in the country. He can play in every position from 2-15 very comfortably and is probably only second to Tomas O Se at wing back in the country. I'd disagree with you on Alan Dillon, because he wouldnt get on the Kerry, Cork or Tyrone team and Aaron Kernan would destroy him too.

See its all opinion!

NickJagger

thats a tough question

WinstonSmith

phil wrote: »

Galway play in Connaught btw

I never said they were from anywhere else!

WinstonSmith

brandon_flowers wrote: »

See its all opinion!

true.

PhosphoricAcid

Leinster-Dermot Earley,Johny Doyle,Padraig Clancy,Alan&Bernard Brogan,Cian Ward,Anthony Moyles,Joe Sheridan,Tommy Walsh,
Connaught-Aidan O Shea,Ronan Mc Garritty,Alan Dillon,Micheal Meehan,Nicky&Padraig Joyce,Donie Shine,Trevor Mortimer,Eamon O Shea,Finian Hanley
Munster-Gooch,Dara & Tomas O Se,Anthony Lynch,Pearse O Neil,A Murphy,D O Sulivan,'Graham Canty,Kieran Donaghy,
Ulster-Aidan O Rourke,Karl Lacey,Colm Mc Fadden,Micheal Murphy,Dooher,Sean Cavanagh,Phillip Jordan,T Mc Guigan,S O Neil,McMenamin,Tommy Freeman,Benny Coulter,That tall midfeilder for Antrim

Btw i know its suppose to be best player i decided to pick all the top class players..wouldnt it be great if the Railway cup became popular again?

Spiritoftheseventies

PhosphoricAcid wrote: »

Leinster-Dermot Earley,Johny Doyle,Padraig Clancy,Alan&Bernard Brogan,Cian Ward,Anthony Moyles,Joe Sheridan,Tommy Walsh,
Connaught-Aidan O Shea,Ronan Mc Garritty,Alan Dillon,Micheal Meehan,Nicky&Padraig Joyce,Donie Shine,Trevor Mortimer,Eamon O Shea,Finian Hanley
Munster-Gooch,Dara & Tomas O Se,Anthony Lynch,Pearse O Neil,A Murphy,D O Sulivan,'Graham Canty,Kieran Donaghy,
Ulster-Aidan O Rourke,Karl Lacey,Colm Mc Fadden,Micheal Murphy,Dooher,Sean Cavanagh,Phillip Jordan,T Mc Guigan,S O Neil,McMenamin,Tommy Freeman,Benny Coulter,That tall midfeilder for Antrim

Btw i know its suppose to be best player i decided to pick all the top class players..wouldnt it be great if the Railway cup became popular again?

Tommy Walsh in Leinster. Which county.

cruiserweight

bayviewclose wrote: »

Tommy Walsh in Leinster. Which county.

Your selection is?

Lemlin

cruiserweight wrote: »

Your selection is?

I've already pointed this out Cruiser. Bayview starts a thread and doesn't even put his own list.

Spiritoftheseventies

Lemlin wrote: »

I've already pointed this out Cruiser. Bayview starts a thread and doesn't even put his own list.

Sorry was just wondering which county Tommy Walsh was from when you put him in Leinster. Wasn't sure if you meant to put in for Kerry. Wasnt taking a swipe there.
But for the record
Connacht-Micheal Meehan
Munster-Colm Cooper
Ulster - Sean Cavanagh
Leinster- Donal Kingston (Laois) (I know he is a bit obscure but I think he is one of the best underage talents to have come out of Leinster for a while. Of the current bunch Cian Ward and Joe Sheridan outside of my own county and Johnny Doyle from Kildare. But again I think if Kingston is played in right position he could be the man to watch.

Young Player- Michael Murphy (Donegal)

DDC1990

I presume its Tom Walsh of Carlowicklow fame.
Super player IMO.

Anywayto avoid controversy i'll put my selection down... (from Kerry by the way)

Munster: A.Lynch (Cork) Serious talent.
Ulster: S. Cavanagh (Tyrone) See above.
Connacht: Tough one... Last year i would have gone for Meehan, but he wasn't up to it this year: P.Gardener (Mayo) Had a decent year from wing back.
Leinster: This year B.Brogan by a country mile. Cluxton would come into it as well as Dermot Early.

Young Player has to go to: Mike McCarthy (Kerry) What a debut season from the youngster... covered Croker like a greyhound, and brought the Youth and Speed that Kerry vitally needed into our season.

If not then Michael Murphy (Donegal) or Aiden O'Shea (Mayo)

grenache

DDC1990 wrote: »

Young Player has to go to: Mike McCarthy (Kerry) What a debut season from the youngster... covered Croker like a greyhound, and brought the Youth and Speed that Kerry vitally needed into our season.

Ok, am i reading that right?? This is the same Mike McCarthy, who is easily 30 years of age and came out of inter-county retirement to come back into the Kerry set-up?


For what its worth, here's my selection:


Munster: Anthony Lynch (Corcaigh)


Connaught: Michael Meehan (Gaillimh)


Leinster: Joe Sheridan (An Mhí)


Ulster: Brian Dooher (Tír Eoghain)


Young Player: Tommy Walsh (Ciarrai)

DDC1990

grenache wrote: »

Ok, am i reading that right?? This is the same Mike McCarthy, who is easily 30 years of age and came out of inter-county retirement to come back into the Kerry set-up?


For what its worth, here's my selection:


Munster: Anthony Lynch (Corcaigh)


Connaught: Michael Meehan (Gaillimh)


Leinster: Joe Sheridan (An Mhí)


Ulster: Brian Dooher (Tír Eoghain)


Young Player: Tommy Walsh (Ciarrai)

Yes grenache... it was a little spot of humour to lighten this edgey thread up. I appologise.


Also Dooher??? Are you serious!!!

busbybhoy

Ulster - Sean Kavanagh

Leinster - Dermot Early

Munster - Anthony Lynch

Connaught - Trevor Mortimer

Young Player - Michael Murphy or Aidan Kilcoyne (Cant believe he hasnt been mentioned before this)

grenache

DDC1990 wrote: »

Yes grenache... it was a little spot of humour to lighten this edgey thread up. I appologise.


Also Dooher??? Are you serious!!!

Deadly. As a Kerryman you should know how good a player he is Without him, Tyrone wouldn't have won Sam last year nor Ulster this year. He's such a vital component of the team. Covers acres of ground and stops opposition half backs from getting forward. Can take his own scores or set up others. The complete footballer. You could play him anywhere on the field and he'd do a job for you. Notice how many posters included him on their team of the decade.

grenache

WinstonSmith wrote: »

I never said they were from anywhere else!

I think you said Meehan was 'one of the best in Munster'.

DDC1990

grenache wrote: »

Deadly. As a Kerryman you should know how good a player he is Without him, Tyrone wouldn't have won Sam last year nor Ulster this year. He's such a vital component of the team. Covers acres of ground and stops opposition half backs from getting forward. Can take his own scores or set up others. The complete footballer. You could play him anywhere on the field and he'd do a job for you. Notice how many posters included him on their team of the decade.

Meh... I'd have Galvin before him anyday. And its true that Tyrone wouldn't have won Sam without him last year, but only for his shocking acting in getting not 1 but 2 Westmeath players sent off with only a point or 2 seperating the teams.
Cavanagh is a far better all round player, and a far better role model to anyone who wants to play the game. He plays the game with measured passion, but also with a smile on his face, and is one of only a few Tyronies i admire, along with Mickey Harte, for his sheer brilliance as a manager and Stephen O'Neill for his awesome footballing skills.

Dooher and Ryan McM, however I have no time for at all and wouldn't have either next nor near a team of the Decade.

I realise this is all off topic but... Meh!

Lemlin

bayviewclose wrote: »

Sorry was just wondering which county Tommy Walsh was from when you put him in Leinster. Wasn't sure if you meant to put in for Kerry. Wasnt taking a swipe there.
But for the record
Connacht-Micheal Meehan
Munster-Colm Cooper
Ulster - Sean Cavanagh
Leinster- Donal Kingston (Laois) (I know he is a bit obscure but I think he is one of the best underage talents to have come out of Leinster for a while. Of the current bunch Cian Ward and Joe Sheridan outside of my own county and Johnny Doyle from Kildare. But again I think if Kingston is played in right position he could be the man to watch.

Young Player- Michael Murphy (Donegal)

I didn't put Tommy Walsh anywhere. He wasn't on my list. I just wondered why you started a thread and then didn't give your own opinion.

Mullers78

Now here's a question, of all the great players from each Province, whow many of them would make the current Kerry team going on Kerrys last game against Dublin?

corny

Leinster- Barry Cahill

Munster- Gooch Cooper (when he has his game face on)

Ulster- Sean Cavanagh (Phillip Jordan and Davy Harte would push him close though)

Connacht- All of the Galway forwards are overrated so i'll go for Alan Dillon.

corny

Mullers78 wrote: »

Now here's a question, of all the great players from each Province, whow many of them would make the current Kerry team going on Kerrys last game against Dublin?

You could say the same thing about the Tyrone side that thrashed Dublin last year. They played far better than Kerry and at least Dublin put up slight resistance last year. But in answer to your question more than half if not two thirds.

Mullers78

But Kerry are the aristocrate of the game, I'm not a Kerry man at all but they have represented in how many all irelands in the last decade

Lemlin

Mullers78 wrote: »

But Kerry are the aristocrate of the game, I'm not a Kerry man at all but they have represented in how many all irelands in the last decade

Yet they have never beaten Tyrone this decade and lost to them last year in what was billed as the title match to see who was the team of the decade.

DDC1990

And Tyrone havn't beaten Wicklow this decade... So what? That shouldn't be how a team of the decade should be picked.

Its overall success rate.

Kerry have been in 9 out of 9 Semi finals this decade.
They have won 6 out of 8.
They have won 4 All Irelands.

We have also won Munster and League Titles.
Find me a Team (Besides Killkenny) who's record comes close to this and i'll accept they are team of the decade.

Actually the fact that people believe that Tyrone are team of the decade... for beating Kerry... well that just cements the fact that Kerry are the benchmark and thus... the best team... Logic! :P

Spiritoftheseventies

DDC1990 wrote: »

And Tyrone havn't beaten Wicklow this decade... So what? That shouldn't be how a team of the decade should be picked.

Its overall success rate.

Kerry have been in 9 out of 9 Semi finals this decade.
They have won 6 out of 8.
They have won 4 All Irelands.

We have also won Munster and League Titles.
Find me a Team (Besides Killkenny) who's record comes close to this and i'll accept they are team of the decade.

Actually the fact that people believe that Tyrone are team of the decade... for beating Kerry... well that just cements the fact that Kerry are the benchmark and thus... the best team... Logic! :P

Back to the topic. Can last three posters if they havent already submitted their top four please do so now.

DDC1990

bayviewclose wrote: »

Back to the topic. Can last three posters if they havent already submitted their top four please do so now.

Have already... and I appologize for the Off Topicness... But LC results tomorrow so im stressed!

smashey

Guys, keep on topic please. Don't let this excellent thread get bogged down in Tyrone v Kerry v Dublin arguements.

LeoB

Like these threads but because Kery, Tyrone, Dublin Galway are always in big games does not mean they have the best players.

Leinster Tony Hannon Wicklow What a year

Connacht, Eamonn O'Hara or David(?) Kelly from Sligo both on limited team with limited possession yet both have been very good

Munster, Canty Cork

Ulster, close call between Ronan Clarke, Sean Kavenagh and Davy Harte but I will go with Harte.

Agree with D.D.C 1990 about Brian Dooher. Wonderful player but dont like his tactics. If any team beat Tyrone this year its vital the ref is not Pat McEnaney or Joe McQuillen

Spiritoftheseventies

Lemlin wrote: »

I didn't put Tommy Walsh anywhere. He wasn't on my list. I just wondered why you started a thread and then didn't give your own opinion.

Sorry Lemlin, that was a response to another post about Walsh. Someone had put Tommy Walsh in Leinster and i just needed to clarify if he had put in wrong province. Another poster subsequently cleared up for me. Have put up my own players since in meantime. Any way posters I will be putting up a poll on friday on contributions posted

newmills

DDC1990 wrote: »

Dooher and Ryan McM, however I have no time for at all and wouldn't have either next nor near a team of the Decade.

I realise this is all off topic but... Meh!

Yeah;) The man is a machine - he scored one of the great points in last years final and not once did a kerry man get the better of him that day.

To stay on topic

Ulster - Stephen O'Neill - near the goal and it's almost a guaranteed score

Munster - Colm Cooper - as above

Connaught - Micheal Meehan - lovely footballer

Leinster - Stephen Cluxton - probably the best keeper in gaa at the moment

Shnakey Nagan

Munster - Gooch without a doubt (Honourable mention to Donaghy for causing havoc and making every manager in the country consider the "big full forward" option all over again.

Ulster - Sean Cavanagh - Speed, power, passion, skill, accuracy and still pretty young. Possibly the most complete footballer of the modern era.

Connacht - Michael Meehan on his day, a real goal machine. Captained his club to an all-ireland at the age of what 20, 21??

Leinster - Johnny Doyle is very underrated but a great finisher. And no I'm not a Kildare man.

Best young player to me is Tommy Walsh. Have played against him and he's frightening. Hope he doesnt go to the AFL although I doubt he will.

DDC1990

newmills wrote: »

Yeah;) The man is a machine - he scored one of the great points in last years final and not once did a kerry man get the better of him that day.

To stay on topic

Ulster - Stephen O'Neill - near the goal and it's almost a guaranteed score

Munster - Colm Cooper - as above

Connaught - Micheal Meehan - lovely footballer

Leinster - Stephen Cluxton - probably the best keeper in gaa at the moment

I'll agree with you on one point... His point against Kerry was Sublime... I applauded it at the All Ireland even though I hate the man. Not as a good as Maurice Fitz's in Thurles but it was class. But I still wouldn't put him before Galvin.

newmills

DDC1990 wrote: »

I'll agree with you on one point... His point against Kerry was Sublime... I applauded it at the All Ireland even though I hate the man. Not as a good as Maurice Fitz's in Thurles but it was class. But I still wouldn't put him before Galvin.

Jesus, relax the beans!! Bit much to actually hate another player. My work mate is from the same parish as dooher and says he is a very modest, unassuming lad - maybe he tries to win at all costs but when you are driving home after the all ireland final with a losers medal in your arse pocket perhaps you might have tried anything to win!!;)

mrgaa1

Connaught: Michael Meehan
Leinster: Stephen Cluxton
Munster: Gooch Cooper / Daniel Goulding
Ulster: Sean Cavanagh / Ronan Clarke

DDC1990

@newmill: PM sent as not to take this off topic again.

MfMan

Shnakey Nagan wrote: »

Munster - Gooch without a doubt (Honourable mention to Donaghy for causing havoc and making every manager in the country consider the "big full forward" option all over again.

Ulster - Sean Cavanagh - Speed, power, passion, skill, accuracy and still pretty young. Possibly the most complete footballer of the modern era.

Connacht - Michael Meehan on his day, a real goal machine. Captained his club to an all-ireland at the age of what 20, 21??

Leinster - Johnny Doyle is very underrated but a great finisher. And no I'm not a Kildare man.

Best young player to me is Tommy Walsh. Have played against him and he's frightening. Hope he doesnt go to the AFL although I doubt he will.

No, Michael didn't captain Caltra that day, think it was his brother Enda. He does have his off days but is probably the classiest player in COnnacht. Not sure who said all Galway forwards are overrated but Meehan definitely isn't - Mayo certainly don't have anyone in his league.

rossie1977

munster - colm cooper
ulster - sean cavanagh (best player in ireland for me atm)
leinster - matty forde (surprised no-one has mentioned him so far, he is still alive :P)
connaught - michael meehan

smashey

DDC1990 wrote: »

@newmill: PM sent as not to take this off topic again.

Leave the modding to us please.

Infraction given.

DDC1990

??? Just to clarify... I didn't say... keep the thread on topic... I only said i replied to his post by PM as my post would have been Off Topic... Is self Modding not allowed either?