Pugalier Cherry Apple Eye

ambrannigan

We got a pugalier 8 days ago and he had a small cherry eye.

We brought him to the vet after 24hours and were given eye drops to apply 3-4 times a day. This was extreemly difficult to apply as he is 9 weeks old and squirmish. The vet also tried to push it back in but it did not stay. Since the vet visit, it has gotten bigger and redder and he is obviously in discomfort. Doesnt seem to be able close his eye probarly when sleeping and paws at it sometimes.

We brought him for a second visit on Friday and the vet suggested waiting for 2 months until he could get it removed. I dont want to put him at risk by having an operation at such a young age but I dont think its fair to wait 2 months when the poor little boy is in pain or discomfort?

We have a 6 month old cavalier and they play all day long which im sure aggitates his eye even more. Whilst trying to clean out the eye i noticed little spots of blood on the tissue which has to be a bad sign that it isnt healing. What should we do?

peasant

What's a cherry eye ?

twinkie

I've a female bulldog who had cherry eye since she was about 5months old. She never had any discomfort or pain with the cherry eye. She never even pawed at it so we waited until she was about 9months old and had her neutered and the cherry eye stitched in at the same time.
The vet said it just looked bad but didn't affect her in any way.

ambrannigan

He seems to be in discomfort with it especially when going for a nap. It gets quite gunky thoughout the day so i have to wipe it out but he is so riggly and Im afraid i am hurting him. Just not sure if he is too young for an operation?

ambrannigan

peasant wrote: »

What's a cherry eye ?

google 'canine cherry eye' and look at the images

Toulouse

If you're not happy then go back to your vet or get a second opinion.

ambrannigan

Yes I got a second opinion. Two vets in the same clinic said different things. Will try another vet clinic today

looserock

ambrannigan wrote: »

Yes I got a second opinion. Two vets in the same clinic said different things. Will try another vet clinic today

This is so common, you just have to find a vet you have confidence in and even then don't take everything he says as gospel.

laceyl

As a cherry eye is not life threatening at all, I would say you will find it hard to get a vet to operate on such a young dog. If I was you I wouldnt want them operating on him so youg anyway, the risks of anesthetic are higher with puppies, while still not incredibly high, theres no point risking his life for a cherry eye.

To make him more comfortable now, why dont you ask your vet for an elizabethian collar and put it on him while he is playing and whenever you are not able to watch him, to prevent him rubbing at it. Be very gently cleaning it so as not to agitate it any more, and in a few days the redness etc should settle down and when that happens he probably wont notice it anymore. good luck with him!

lil'bug

i had a dog who had this problem (her name was Cherry ) and we had it removed hope fully when he is a little bit bigger the vet will remove it
i'd get the vet to give your pup a good look over as well as cavaliers can have heart complaints and pugs have a lot of breathing problems (don't mean to scare you)

Clare Bear

lil'bug wrote: »

i'd get the vet to give your pup a good look over as well as cavaliers can have heart complaints and pugs have a lot of breathing problems (don't mean to scare you)

Pugaliers usually have those problems cancelled out though.

lil'bug

Clare Bear wrote: »

Pugaliers usually have those problems cancelled out though.

HOW?????
i had a cross breed andof a cavalier and another breed and i lost him to an enlarged heart

Clare Bear

Look it up. Cross breeds can sometimes cancel out the parents problems. I had a pugalier (had to give him back unfortunately due to my boyfriend being allergic to him) and as a Vet nurse have seen many cross breeds who don't display the same problems that their parents (pug breathing problems, cavalier heart problems) have. Not all though obviously as in your case.

B'witched

Clare Bear wrote: »

Pugaliers usually have those problems cancelled out though.

It does not cancel out the problems by cross breeding, just makes them twice as bad.:mad:

By breeding 2 different breeds with serious health problems together, you are twice as likely to have a pup with both health problems relating to each breed. :eek: It takes years of selective breeding by people who study the genetics of each breeding dog to make any difference

andreac

A lot of the time these cross breeds inherit both health problems of each breed so you end up with double the health problems.

lil'bug

B'witched wrote: »

It does not cancel out the problems by cross breeding, just makes them twice as bad.:mad:

By breeding 2 different breeds with serious health problems together, you are twice as likely to have a pup with both health problems relating to each breed. :eek:

thank you

Clare Bear

Yes I said not all. I've dealt with many pugaliers and they've all been completely healthy with no heart or eye or skin etc problems. I'm yet to work on a pugalier that has had any problems so from my own experience it has been cancelled out. I'm sure there's many that it is twice as bad in though, hence doing your research before you get one.

Anyway cherry eye if it is not hurting your dog can often not do any harm. It doesn't look pretty obviously but unless it is actually hurting them I would leave it unless you really don't want them to have it. OP you said the dog is having discomfort with it, what age is the dog? If it's only a young pup it probably would be best to wait a few months before operating on it. Unless it is in a lot of pain then I would suggest going to a different vet who would hopefully operate on it sooner.

ambrannigan

Clare Bear wrote: »

Yes I said not all. I've dealt with many pugaliers and they've all been completely healthy with no heart or eye or skin etc problems. I'm yet to work on a pugalier that has had any problems so from my own experience it has been cancelled out. I'm sure there's many that it is twice as bad in though, hence doing your research before you get one.

Anyway cherry eye if it is not hurting your dog can often not do any harm. It doesn't look pretty obviously but unless it is actually hurting them I would leave it unless you really don't want them to have it. OP you said the dog is having discomfort with it, what age is the dog? If it's only a young pup it probably would be best to wait a few months before operating on it. Unless it is in a lot of pain then I would suggest going to a different vet who would hopefully operate on it sooner.

He's about 9 weeks or so old, the vet has said he can have it done now. They were going to wait till he is nutered but that is another 4 months and too long to wait if he is in discomfort and he seems to be. I can live with the visuals of it but I'd hate to think he is suffering . . .

Clare Bear

ambrannigan wrote: »

He's about 9 weeks or so old, the vet has said he can have it done now. They were going to wait till he is nutered but that is another 4 months and too long to wait if he is in discomfort and he seems to be. I can live with the visuals of it but I'd hate to think he is suffering . . .

I'd get it done now in that case, it would be horrible to leave him suffer any longer I agree. If your Vet is willing to do it now I'd go with that, another four months of discomfort really wouldn't be fair. Best of luck with it

Ruby Soho

Get it done now if the vet is willing to do it. Cherry eye, while usually innocuous and just a cosmetic problem, can lead to corneal ulceration and keratoconjunctivis sicca (dry eye), I would be concerned about it causing too much inflammation and discomfort if its rubbing off the cornea. Its a really simple and quick procedure, just get it over with I reckon!

Molberts

ambrannigan wrote: »

Yes I got a second opinion. Two vets in the same clinic said different things. Will try another vet clinic today

Sorry to hear about your pups eye. If youre looking for another opinion, Michael Woods in Primrose hill vets in Dun Laoghaire is an eye specialist