Your World 15

Size=everything

So going on form this year alone in the HC, Lions and Tri Nations heres my top 15


1.Tendai Mtawarira
2.Du Plessiss
3.Smit
4.Botha
5.Matfield
6.Elsom
7.McCaw
8.Heaslip
9.Du Preez
10.Steyn
11.Sivavtu
12.Roberts
13.O'Driscoll
14.Habanna
15.Rob Kearney

danthefan

Forgive my ignorance but who is your openside?

Size=everything

danthefan wrote: »

Forgive my ignorance but who is your openside?

[Jackass]

Not really going to put a team together, but ommisions from above, I'd have players like Gitteau at 10, JDV at 12, Hernandez at 15, Parresi at 8...

Kearney and Heaslip may be a bit biased...both top notch players, both potential to be the best in the world in their positions, but I don't think either of them are. YET! (although Kearney never ceases to amaze when he pulls on his big performances...they're nothing short of spectacular how he commands the full back role, and Heaslip is getting better and better and is certainly at the head table of 8's at the moment)

Hyperbullet

15. Byrne
14. Pietersen
13. O' Driscoll
12.de Villiers
11.Habana
10.Hernandez
9. du Preez
8. Parisse
7. McCaw
6. Elsom
5. Matfield
4. O Connell
3. John Smit
2. du Plessis
1. Mtawarira

Yes I put Parisse and Lee Byrne in there because you cant ignore 6 nations performances in 2009, and I slotted in Hernandez because he is an awesome outhalf.

tbaymusicman

1. Tony Woodcock
2. Keven Mealamu
3. Carl Hayman /The bull
4. Bakkies Botha
5. Victor Matfield/Paul o connell
6. Jerry Collins
7. Richie McCaw
8. Pierre Spies
9. George Gregan was class:D couldn't think of a better 9
10. Daniel Carter
11. Bryan Habana
12. Matt Giteau
13. Brian O’Driscoll
14.Joe Rokocoko /Tommy bowe?
15. Rob Kearney

danthefan

tbaymusicman wrote: »

1. Tony Woodcock
6. Jerry Collins
9. George Gregan
10. Daniel Carter
14.Joe Rokocoko

Wow.

Size=everything

[Jackass] wrote: »

Not really going to put a team together, but ommisions from above, I'd have players like Gitteau at 10, JDV at 12, Hernandez at 15, Parresi at 8...

Kearney and Heaslip may be a bit biased...both top notch players, both potential to be the best in the world in their positions, but I don't think either of them are. YET! (although Kearney never ceases to amaze when he pulls on his big performances...they're nothing short of spectacular how he commands the full back role, and Heaslip is getting better and better and is certainly at the head table of 8's at the moment)

Believe me I was extremely tempted to put Giteau in there and probably should of guess I was just influenced by Steyns performance on the weekend! On Kearney I think right now he is without doubt the best full back the form he showed on the Lions tour was simply awesome and Heaslip in my opinion outperformed Parisse in the 6N this year.

tbaymusicman

danthefan wrote: »

Wow.

Il admit some of my choices are based on the world cup year but i had this on another forum and copied and pasted:D still great ball players

Amabokke

Springbok team 1 to 15.

tbaymusicman

Amabokke wrote: »

Springbok team 1 to 15.

If i didn't have a previous one wrote out i would off posted something along the line's of this

Hyperbullet

Amabokke wrote: »

Springbok team 1 to 15.

Slightly biased a bit? Lol I'm messing. :pac:

1.Jenkins
2.Du Plessiss
3.Haymen
4.Botha
5.Matfield
6.Elsom
7.Brussow
8.Heaslip,I cant pick Spies he is anonymous-jesus the barrell is bare at 8.
9.Du Preez
10.giteau
11.Sivivatu
12.Roberts
13.O'Driscoll
14.Naps Nalanga
15.Kearney

Four-Percent

1.Mtawarira
2.Du Plessis
3.A. Jones
4.Botha
5.Matfield
6.Elsom
7.McCaw
8.Parisse - Sub for Chabal after 60 mins.
9.Du Preez
10.M. Steyn
11.Clerc (Does he play 11?Heymans otherwise
12.Roberts
13.O'Driscoll
14.Habana
15.Muliaina

MickTipp

this isnt really totally based on current form, its just my world 15!!

15. Juan Martín Hernández
14. Joe Rokocoko
13. Brian O Driscoll
12. Ma Nonu
11. Bryan Habana
10. Dan Carter
9. Fourie Du Preez
8. Sergio Parisse
7. Richie Mc Caw
6. Rocky Elsom
5. Victor Matfield
4. Bakkies Botha
3. John Smit (Captain)
2. Jannie du Plessis
1. Tony Woodcock

duckysauce

Amabokke wrote: »

Springbok team 1 to 15.

your arrogance suits you how are the tutus and armbands looking these days, do you get into clubs with them or do the irfu turn you away ?

Amabokke

duckysauce wrote: »

your arrogance suits you how are the tutus and armbands looking these days, do you get into clubs with them or do the irfu turn you away ?

Still having font memories of it after whipping your Lions in the recent series.

duckysauce

Amabokke wrote: »

Still having font memories of it after whipping your Lions in the recent series.

font ? yeah whippy whippy

wouldnt really be hard if you go out to injure players , and leave no one playing

Four-Percent

duckysauce wrote: »

font ? yeah whippy whippy

wouldnt really be hard if you go out to injure players , and leave no one playing

Duckysauce, I'm assuming you've never played rugby at any sort of high standard if you think Botha was intentionally trying to injure Jones...

It was a fairly standard counter ruck, nothing to get excited about...

razorblunt

Conrad Smith would have to be in there, in my opinion one of the most underated players in world rugby.

thebossanova

Paloma Uptight Warship wrote: »

1.Jenkins
2.Du Plessiss
3.Haymen
4.Botha
5.Matfield
6.Elsom
7.Brussow
8.Heaslip
9.Du Preez
10.giteau
11.Sivivatu
12.Roberts
13.O'Driscoll
14.Naps Nalanga
15.Kearney

Brilliant! Exactly what I would have gone for! Tough front 5 and a great attacking back 3.

P_1

15. Lee Byrne
14. Tommy Bowe
13. Brian O'Driscoll
12. Jamie Roberts
11. Bryan Habana
10. Matt Gitteau
9. Fourie du Preez
8. Jamie Heaslip
7. Heinrich Brussow
6. Rocky Elsom
5. Paul O'Connoll
4. Victor Matfield
3. John Smit
2. Bismarck du Plessis
1. Gethin Jenkins

16. Jerry Flannery
17. Stan Wright
18. Leo Cullen
19. Imanol Harinordoquy
20. Tomás O'Leary
21. Rob Kearney
22. John de Villiers

duckysauce

Four-Percent wrote: »

Duckysauce, I'm assuming you've never played rugby at any sort of high standard if you think Botha was intentionally trying to injure Jones...

It was a fairly standard counter ruck, nothing to get excited about...

dont assumme , its normally wrong to assume without talking to the person before hand, wasnt talking about botha , i assume you played rugby at international so , for sa or ireland ?

Four-Percent

duckysauce wrote: »

dont assumme , its normally wrong to assume without talking to the person before hand, wasnt talking about botha , i assume you played rugby at international so , or sa or ireland ?

Both, at the same time!

What incident/s were you talking about then?

duckysauce

Both, at the same time! ?

dont get it !


have a look at the second series again if you did not see it before, and see how many players go off fu *ked in the second half .

funky penguin

Fitz?

But Jesus flogging a dead horse. Best left well enough alone.

mufc4lfe

This is my personal xv for all yer viewing pleasure.It will give some of yer big boys a run for their money

1.Woodcock 2.Ibanez 3.John Hayes


4.Botha 5.O'Connell


6.Betson 7.Chabel

8.Foley


9.Thomas O'Leary


10.Carter


12.Matt Giteau 13.O'Driscoll
11.Habanna 14.Rokocoko


15.Patterson

razorblunt

razorblunt wrote: »

Conrad Smith would have to be in there, in my opinion one of the most underated players in world rugby.

I agree he is underrated but where do you put him?
Hes not close to Bod and Robers and Nonu are both better 12's.

I have decided to edit my team

1.Jenkins
2.Du Plessiss
3.Haymen
4.Botha
5.Matfield
6.Elsom
7.Brussow
8.Harinodoque
9.Du Preez
10.Carter
11.Sivivatu
12.Gituea
13.O'Driscoll
14.Naps Nalanga
15.Kearney

Gitau at 12 will provide for creativity outside Carter,in his best position at 12.Hairydonkey comes in at 8 because we need a big unit to make up for Brussows lack of size.

Might even go the whole hog and play Elsom at 8 and Ferris at 6.

Stick_man

15:Kearney
14: Pietersen
13:O Driscoll
12:Roberts
11:Habana
10:Giteau
9:Du Preez
8:Parisse
7:McCaw
6:J.Smith
5:O Connell
4:Matfield
3:Hayman
2:Du Plessis
1:Jenkins.

I have 1 problem,Juan smith at blindside.How?

He is crap,elsom and ferris at well better.

Hes just a freaky looking fukcer and thats about it.

mikeruurds

Amabokke wrote: »

Springbok team 1 to 15.

C'mon. I'm a Saffa and my blood is green, but give me a break.

Dev7

1. Woodcock
2. Du Plessis
3. Smit
4. Botha
5. Matfield
6. Elsom
7. Smith
8. Parisse
9. Du Preez
10. Giteau
11. Habana
12. Nono
13. O Driscoll
14. Sivivatu
15. Kearney

DBraithwaite

tbaymusicman wrote: »

1. Tony Woodcock
2. Keven Mealamu
3. Carl Hayman /The bull
4. Bakkies Botha
5. Victor Matfield/Paul o connell
6. Jerry Collins
7. Richie McCaw
8. Pierre Spies
9. George Gregan was class:D couldn't think of a better 9
10. Daniel Carter
11. Bryan Habana
12. Matt Giteau
13. Brian O’Driscoll
14.Joe Rokocoko /Tommy bowe?
15. Rob Kearney

Its a currennt world 15 and i dont think collins and gregan would be in that

[Jackass]

Stick_man wrote: »

15:Kearney
14: Pietersen
13:O Driscoll
12:Roberts
11:Habana
10:Giteau
9:Du Preez
8:Parisse
7:McCaw
6:J.Smith
5:O Connell
4:Matfield
3:Hayman
2:Du Plessis
1:Jenkins.

:D

razorblunt

Paloma Uptight Warship wrote: »

I agree he is underrated but where do you put him?
Hes not close to Bod and Robers and Nonu are both better 12's.

I'd make room for him wing, scrum half, hooker whatever lol!

remus808

Paloma Uptight Warship wrote: »

I have 1 problem,Juan smith at blindside.How?

He is crap,elsom and ferris at well better.

Hes just a freaky looking fukcer and thats about it.

Absolutely clueless post. Elsom and Ferris have very good seasons while Smith has been in the shadow of Spies/Brussow somewhat, but for a number of years Smith has been regarded by most as the best blindside around. You obviously have a short memory or are new to rugby.

Chucky the tree

duckysauce wrote: »

Both, at the same time! ?

dont get it !


have a look at the second series again if you did not see it before, and see how many players go off fu *ked in the second half .

What lions player had to go off because he was injured on purpose by a SA?

g5fd6ow0hseima

Ill accept that some might be off the boil the past year but:

15. I Corleto
14. C Heymans
13. B O'Driscoll
12. J Roberts
11. B Habana
10. F Steyn
9. F Du Preez
8. S Parisse
7. T Dusatoir
6. J Worsley
5. P O'Connell
4. B Botha
3. CJ Van Der Linde
2. D Szarzewski
1. A Lo Cicero

16. J Smit
17. E Murray
18. V Matfield
19. S Burger
20. M Phillips
21. J Hernandez
22. L Byrne

pappyodaniel

15. Rob Kearney
14. Tommy Bowe
13. Brian O Driscoll
12. Jamie Roberts
11. Bryan Habana
10. Dan Carter
9. Fourie Du Preez
8. Sergio Parisse
7. Rocky Elsom
6. Heinrich Brussouw
5. Victor Matfield
4. Bakkies Botha
3. John Smit (Captain)
2. Dimitri Szarzewski
1. Cian Healy

These players would be my pick,
Dan Carter's back.
I had to make room for Elsom and Brussouw with Parisse in the middle.
Botha and Matfield are the best second row pairing in the history of the game.
Du Plessis is the obvious choice but it's Szarzewski at hooker, it might not be popular but i've been saying for years that he's the complete hooker (for 60mins according to French coaches).
Cian Healy, i now know can scrummage, but he's a prop with another dimension.
No Munster players 5 South Africans,3 Leinster(4inc.Elsom) and 4 Irish.

Chucky the tree

You've got Elsom and Brussouws positions mixed up.

karmabass

karmabass wrote: »

Absolutely clueless post. Elsom and Ferris have very good seasons while Smith has been in the shadow of Spies/Brussow somewhat, but for a number of years Smith has been regarded by most as the best blindside around. You obviously have a short memory or are new to rugby.

No I dont but he has been crap for the past few years,I wouldnt even have him in my Springbok team,I would probably put Russow there instead.Out of position or not.

pappyodaniel

Chucky the tree wrote: »

You've got Elsom and Brussouws positions mixed up.

You're right there Ted

15. Rob Kearney
14. Tommy Bowe
13. Brian O Driscoll
12. Jamie Roberts
11. Bryan Habana
10. Dan Carter
9. Fourie Du Preez
8. Sergio Parisse
7. Heinrich Brussouw
6. Rocky Elsom
5. Victor Matfield
4. Bakkies Botha
3. John Smit (Captain)
2. Dimitri Szarzewski
1. Cian Healy

These players would be my pick,
Dan Carter's back.
I had to make room for Elsom and Brussouw with Parisse in the middle.
Botha and Matfield are the best second row pairing in the history of the game.
Du Plessis is the obvious choice but it's Szarzewski at hooker, it might not be popular but i've been saying for years that he's the complete hooker (for 60mins according to French coaches).
Cian Healy, i now know can scrummage, but he's a prop with another dimension.
No Munster players 5 South Africans,3 Leinster(4inc.Elsom) and 4 Irish.

siltirocker

Size=everything wrote: »

So going on form this year alone in the HC, Lions and Tri Nations heres my top 15


1.Tendai Mtawarira
2.Du Plessiss
3.Smit
4.Botha
5.Matfield
6.Elsom
7.McCaw
8.Heaslip
9.Du Preez
10.Steyn
11.Sivavtu
12.Roberts
13.O'Driscoll
14.Habanna
15.Rob Kearney

I would agree with that, maybe Parisse at 8, and a fit Carter at 10, maybe JDV and O'connell too.
What made you change your mind as regards O'Driscoll? Wasn't you that said he wouldn't start for Ireland in the Guiness Series! And now he is worthy of a place in you're top 15;)

remus808

Braylee Salmon Wheat wrote: »

15. I Corleto

Honestly, are you nuts? I didn't quote your whole post for space reasons but - none of Corleto, Worsely or Lo Cicero are even the best in their position in their COUNTRY, nevermind the whole world

And by god I hope you meant M Steyn not F Steyn at 10 :pac:

remus808

Paloma Uptight Warship wrote: »

No I dont but he has been crap for the past few years,I wouldnt even have him in my Springbok team,I would probably put Russow there instead.Out of position or not.

ENOUGH SAID

The people on this board crack me up sometimes..

Amabokke

Paloma Uptight Warship wrote: »

No I dont but he has been crap for the past few years,I wouldnt even have him in my Springbok team,I would probably put Russow there instead.Out of position or not.

You need to do some brush up on your knowledge of opposition players.

If you want respect to your posts show some intelligence and talk about something that you are well informed of.

Think what you like of smith but I would Have him behind Elsom,Ferris,Parisse,Kaino at 6.

Reputation counts for nothing,he was ****e in the Lions series and so far in the tri nations.

g5fd6ow0hseima

karmabass wrote: »

Honestly, are you nuts? I didn't quote your whole post for space reasons but - none of Corleto, Worsely or Lo Cicero are even the best in their position in their COUNTRY, nevermind the whole world

And by god I hope you meant M Steyn not F Steyn at 10 :pac:

I meant Morne Steyn sorry....

Well, to me, Argentina are best served with Hernandez at fly-half, Contepomi inside centre, and Corleto at full back, hence their flying world cup in 2007.

Worsley, to me the best blindside of the past 5 or six years, but a bit long in the tooth at this stage.

Lo Cicero - one of my favourite props in world rugby. If it was last year, id have got away with it, but yeah... this is current

Size=everything

siltirocker wrote: »

I would agree with that, maybe Parisse at 8, and a fit Carter at 10, maybe JDV and O'connell too.
What made you change your mind as regards O'Driscoll? Wasn't you that said he wouldn't start for Ireland in the Guiness Series! And now he is worthy of a place in you're top 15;)

:eek:

I can guarantee you I certainly never said O'Driscoll wouldn't start for Ireland. Quite the opposite.

Also O'Connell wouldn't get near a world 15 after his Lions performance. A great player but certainly not the best second row in the world in fact I'd have a few players ahead of him

danthefan

Braylee Salmon Wheat wrote: »

I meant Morne Steyn sorry....

Well, to me, Argentina are best served with Hernandez at fly-half, Contepomi inside centre, and Corleto at full back, hence their flying world cup in 2007.

Worsley, to me the best blindside of the past 5 or six years, but a bit long in the tooth at this stage.

Lo Cicero - one of my favourite props in world rugby. If it was last year, id have got away with it, but yeah... this is current

Worsley better than Elsom? Really?

Morf

danthefan wrote: »

Worsley better than Elsom? Really?

Worsley can tackle, but he does nothing else. He can't see a pass as was seen when he spurned 2 or 3 try scoring opportunities for the lions. He's a man to do a job for England, which is make tackles, he's extremely limited beyond this.