Anderson Silva vs. Roy Jones Jr.

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Anderson Silva wants to BOX Roy Jones Jr.

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=5868


“Anderson really would love to fight Roy Jones, Jr. in a boxing match,” says his manager, Ed Soares, confirming recent speculation. “It’s not just talk, we really would like to put that fight together.”

lil-evil

Jones would KO him in first round

Raze_them_all

This was brought up last year weren't it? Dana said he'd never let it happen IIRC

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lil-evil wrote: »

Jones would KO him in first round

Jones is 40.. Silva is quick.

Raze_them_all

Braelynn Clever Sister-in-law wrote: »

Jones is 40.. Silva is quick.

A boxer would stop an mma fighter in a boxing match. It's like saying would munster beat man united in a soccer match, two different sports.

Raze_them_all

Raze_them_all wrote: »

A boxer would stop an mma fighter in a boxing match. It's like saying would munster beat man united in a soccer match, two different sports.

Not really, you can basically just fight in MMA the same as boxing, so it's more like ''Pitch and Putt and Golf'' :P

Mellor

That said, jones fights at 160-175, Silva at 185-205.
I imagine it would be fought at catch weight, 180 or maybe 185

cowzerp

Jones at peak, easy win for rjj-Jones now, hard to say, he's quite worn and very far from his best.. I'd still like to see silva boxing though.

Turd Ferguson

Silva only has 4 fights left on his contract so it is very possible he could fight Jones when that runs out. While Anderson has real good accuracy with his punches he just doesnt have the power to fight a pro like Jones though. If the fight did happen it would probably be a massacre.

dunkamania

UFC contract automatically extend by one fight if you are champ. Silva has reportedlysaid the contracts with RJJ have been signed. Not sure of the accuracy or legality of this

Karmafaerie

That is an article from a year and a half ago!!!!!!!

JoeyJJ

Jones is a little slower and has had a few KO's against him since he came back from heavyweight, In his day Jones was king of boxing and would destroy him, no who knows a win for either of them isn't going to state alot. If Silva wins Jones is passed it, if Jones wins its natural for the boxer to win.

cowzerp

The only reason i see this making sense for Anderson is he's meant to look at RJJ as a hero and always wanted to box aswell, what better thing to do than to fight your hero.

If he won in good fashion he would potentially make way more money in Boxing aswell, remains to be seen if he could though, would be sad if he did beat RJJ as he would really only be beating a shell of a man and i hate to see legends lose at the end of there carreers like this.

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Karmafaerie wrote: »

That is an article from a year and a half ago!!!!!!!

It's starting to come out from the Silva camp again now.

he would be KO'd in 30 seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BSthcs5Xl0

Check out 48yr old Ray Mercer KO Tim Slyvia within 5 second of Sylvia kicking him when they agreed to just box.
It was a 9 second KO to be precise.

Fozzy

Wasn't Anderson meant to have retired from MMA by now? Or was it early next year? I don't see it happening. First of all, Anderson would have to lose his title to leave the UFC, which probably won't happen for some time unless he throws a fight

This could all be a ploy on Jones Jr's part to gain publicity for his promotion. The last show that he promoted was a mixed boxing and MMA card, so if he's going in that direction stories like this certainly help

If it ever did happen you can be assured of a lot of message board posts :pac:

rovert

After 101, Silva has three more fights left doesnt he?

Turd Ferguson

So I thought but....

dunkamania wrote: »

UFC contract automatically extend by one fight if you are champ.

Does that mean it keeps extending if you keep defending it?

Fozzy

Turd Ferguson wrote: »

So I thought but....


Does that mean it keeps extending if you keep defending it?

Yes. And if you try to leave then you've seen what happened with Couture. The only way out of it is to retire, and I'm sure that their contracts cover boxing and other combat sports as part of that

It would probably be defeated in court, but that would take a long time

druss666

found this today silva boxing i still think even an old jones would ko him http://www.mmatko.com/anderson-silva-vs-julio-cesar-de-jesus-fight-video-boxing/

druss666

druss666 wrote: »

found this today silva boxing i still think even an old jones would ko him http://www.mmatko.com/anderson-silva-vs-julio-cesar-de-jesus-fight-video-boxing/

That was years ago, sure i saw one of Silva's earlier MMA fights in some British event(cage rage?) and while he won, and if you said to somebody after that fight what would happen over the next few years, you'd find it hard to believe

Fozzy

Roy Jones Jr sent out a press release the other day saying that he'd be at the UFC show to watch Anderson, but it was just to get some publicity for his next fight

T-K-O

Dont be fooled by an MMA guys boxing. It donest compare to a real boxer. Not even close.

Nothingcompares

T-K-O wrote: »

Dont be fooled by an MMA guys boxing. It donest compare to a real boxer. Not even close.

can you elaborate on that? are you saying kenny egan would put on a boxing clinic against anderson silva in a proboxing arena? what's a real boxer? what's an unreal boxer?

cowzerp

Well kenny is an amateur but i would say he would jab anderson about in a boxing match-thats all he trains for and he's olympic silver medalist so his standard is high and i'd say beyond that of silva. In saying that i think silva has good boxing but as stated, good boxing in mma does not mean your a high standard boxing as its done mostly against opposition with poor boxing which is obviously easy.

Nothingcompares wrote: »

can you elaborate on that? are you saying kenny egan would put on a boxing clinic against anderson silva in a proboxing arena? what's a real boxer? what's an unreal boxer?

T-K-O

Nothingcompares wrote: »

can you elaborate on that? are you saying kenny egan would put on a boxing clinic against anderson silva in a proboxing arena? what's a real boxer? what's an unreal boxer?

Apples and oranges. You have to compare like with like. Silva is top of this game Kenny is not.

In saying that Kenny would school the majority of MMA guys in a boxing ring.

Striking in MMA is nothing like boxing - look a Liddell, he was always known for his striking, that huge wind up he uses in MMA simply would not work in a boxing ring.

Nothingcompares

So you're saying a MMA fighter wouldn't be better at boxing than a top boxing pro or an Olympic Champion? OR wouldn't be better at judo than a Olympic Judoka? Or better at wrestling than an olympian? or better at table tennis than a world champion? or better at soccer then a premier league player. an astute point.

The-Game

T-K-O wrote: »

Striking in MMA is nothing like boxing - look a Liddell, he was always known for his striking, that huge wind up he uses in MMA simply would not work in a boxing ring.

True but Chuck and Silva are in a whole different class, if you caught UFC 101 as an example Silva has amazing speed and can dodge and duck like a pro boxer, his hand speed and reach would give him quite a shot.

I could see him beating Roy Jones if the match happened.

ginoginelli

The-Game wrote: »

True but Chuck and Silva are in a whole different class, if you caught UFC 101 as an example Silva has amazing speed and can dodge and duck like a pro boxer, his hand speed and reach would give him quite a shot.

I could see him beating Roy Jones if the match happened.

I dont know about beating rjj, but its defo an interesting match up idlove to see.

Fromvert

RJJ in his prime would go right through Silva in a boxing match. Now, I'm not so sure but I would still give the edge to RJJ.

World class boxing that RJJ possess is a different level to the boxing that Silva has.

T-K-O

Nothingcompares wrote: »

So you're saying a MMA fighter wouldn't be better at boxing than a top boxing pro or an Olympic Champion? OR wouldn't be better at judo than a Olympic Judoka? Or better at wrestling than an olympian? or better at table tennis than a world champion? or better at soccer then a premier league player. an astute point.

Read the title of this thread. It's comparing Silva and RJJ. Jones is probably the most talented boxer of his generation. Anderson Silva would not stand a chance. None what so ever.

T-K-O

The-Game wrote: »

True but Chuck and Silva are in a whole different class, if you caught UFC 101 as an example Silva has amazing speed and can dodge and duck like a pro boxer, his hand speed and reach would give him quite a shot.

I could see him beating Roy Jones if the match happened.

Anderson Silva is amazing fighter. His performance on Sunday was outstanding. Right now IMO he is the best fighter on the planet.

The problem I have is when you start comparing MMA fighters to boxers. Sure Silva dodged and ducked on Sunday but who was throwing the shots ??

Chewabacca

Like throwing Frank Mir into a submission wrestling match against Roger Gracie.

roo1981

Fozzy wrote: »

I don't see it happening. First of all, Anderson would have to lose his title to leave the UFC, which probably won't happen for some time unless he throws a fight

Word is Silva has offered to vacate the 185 pound title to fight at LHW. An incredibly cunning move by his management. Let Ando finish out his UFC career with some LHW superfights, then once the contract is up he's free to go fight Jones. UFC are reportedly keen on the idea due to lack of viable challengers at MW.

Mind you Ando's probably counting on not having to fight Machida for the title if possible...if he has to fight that fight and wins, he's back under the championship lockdown.

IMO if he fights Jones its not gonna be pretty-Forrests boxing is far from stellar, if there were belt rankings in boxing, Forest would be a dodgy purple and Ando would be a higher level black. Mind you Roy Jones (even being the shell he is today) would be of those grandmastery ninja types-he'd quite easily toy with Ando. Andos striking looks to have a Muai Thai base-I dont see him doing to well against a world champion level boxer like Jones in a straight boxing match.

dunkamania

He is not going to drop the belt but will fight at 205

walshb

Nothingcompares wrote: »

So you're saying a MMA fighter wouldn't be better at boxing than a top boxing pro or an Olympic Champion? OR wouldn't be better at judo than a Olympic Judoka? Or better at wrestling than an olympian? or better at table tennis than a world champion? or better at soccer then a premier league player. an astute point.

A real boxer is a boxer with experience in actual boxing, and just boxing.
An MMA is a jack of all trades and cannot be expected to be as proficient
at boxing as a pro or amateur boxer, unless his specialty is boxing. Not saying he cannot be useful, but a betting man
would be foolish to bet on an MMA fighter beating a boxer in a boxing match.

So, the point is actually very astute. What exactly is your point or view on this?

BTW, this match all depends on how bad Roy has got. He is well past his boxing peak, so
maybe this Silva does have a chance

Nothingcompares

walshb wrote: »

A real boxer is a boxer with experience in actual boxing, and just boxing.
An MMA is a jack of all trades and cannot be expected to be as proficient
at boxing as a pro or amateur boxer. Not saying he cannot be useful, but a betting man
would be foolish to bet on an MMA fighter beating a boxer in a boxing match.

So, the point is actually very astute. What exactly is your point or view on this?

BTW, this match all depends on how bad Roy has got. He is well past his boxing peak, so
maybe this Silva does have a chance

My point saying a man that trains 10 years in boxing/wrestling/bjj/mma (all things being equal) would be less proficient at boxing than a man that trains purely boxing for 10 years is a truism.

Tones69

IMO Anderson wants the 205lb title, he wont want to fight machida but eventually if machida is still unbeaten that fight will happen, i see the roy jones fight NEVER happening also..Hell i think if he takes the LHW title he should take some time and put on some quality size to about 215-220 then take on the HW!! Why not I would pay any amount of money to see him taking on top 5 HW's

ollieo

Silva walks around at between 215-220, I know thats not all muscle but it would not take a huge amount of time to be a sufficient size to compete at HW (except lesnar, hes too big).

Would love to see Silva fight Fedor, don't think it will evere happen but I can always hope.