Games-On-Demand line-up revealed

mailrewop

no sign of any price structure yet and with my 2mb connection i don't know if its worth it seeing as it takes forever to download a demo thats 1gig. i'll give it a go anyway.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/xbox-live-god-line-up-revealed

Here's the launch line-up in full:

* Assassin's Creed
* Need for Speed: Most Wanted
* Burnout Paradise
* Perfect Dark Zero
* Call of Duty 2
* Prey
* Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
* Rockstar Games Presents Table Tennis
* Fight Night Round 3
* SEGA Rally
* Kameo: Elements of Power
* Test Drive: Unlimited
* LEGO Star Wars: The Complete Saga
* Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Vegas
* Mass Effect
* Tomb Raider: Legend
* Meet The Robinsons
* Viva Piñata
* MX vs. ATV Untamed
* Viva Piñata 2: Trouble in Paradise
* Need for Speed Carbon

Kinetic^

mailrewop wrote: »

* Call of Duty 2
* Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
* Rockstar Games Presents Table Tennis
* Fight Night Round 3
* Mass Effect

I can see these being the most popular.

Retr0gamer

I'd put money on them costing more than they would second hand or new in some cases.

corcaigh07

how much would you pay for these games? it shouldn't be more than 1500 points. could be cool to see more online activity in old games like Test Drive.

rizzla

I've seen screens before, it's actual money and I think they where like $19.99.



Could've changed since then though.

mailrewop

yea its real money, no buying points to buy the game unless theres an option to do both. i wouldn't mind paying €20 its just downloading the game thats my concern like in the pic, 5.71gb for star wars is alot to be downloading.

corcaigh07

i think i would prefer using points tbh.

Mindkiller

You can use both points and real money.

dazftw

whats the difference like?

I saw mass effect for 1600 points!

silvine

Xtravision second hand for the win.

Tea_Bag

i wonder if they're releasing bigger HDD's. im running out of space on my 120gb..

mailrewop

Microsoft has revealed that titles downloaded from Xbox Live's new games-on-demand channel will cost between 1600 and 2400 Microsoft Points.

In real money that equates to between £13.60 / €19.20 and £20.40 / €28.80.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/xbox-live-god-service-priced

RobertFoster

You can get most of the games new at retail for cheaper than €20, nevermind second hand. Hopefully the prices will come down.

Captain Chaos

Its like Steam, your paying extra for the convenience of not have to go to and que in a shop. Yet still you can get some new releases as cheap as €30 delivered through ebay so they need to do something alright.

quarryman

RobertFoster wrote: »

You can get most of the games new at retail for cheaper than €20, nevermind second hand. Hopefully the prices will come down.

plus you can trade them in when you're done!

AdMMM

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Its like Steam, your paying extra for the convenience of not have to go to and que in a shop. Yet still you can get some new releases as cheap as €30 delivered through ebay so they need to do something alright.

The convenience? I could walk to a GameStop in Limerick (I live in Waterford!) to buy a game and still be back in time before one of these "On-Demand" games finishes downloading!

quarryman

AdMMM wrote: »

The convenience? I could walk to a GameStop in Limerick (I live in Waterford!) to buy a game and still be back in time before one of these "On-Demand" games finishes downloading!

in your boxers though?

RobertFoster

quarryman wrote: »

in your boxers though?

That'd sort out the queues...


Digitally distributed content should be cheaper than a boxed copy. As it is, retailers take a 50% cut; there's also no boxes, discs or manuals to add to manufacturing costs; setting up a download server is probably cheaper than physically distributing things too. It's only convenient for those selling the game tbh.

MikeHoncho

RobertFoster wrote: »

That'd sort out the queues...


Digitally distributed content should be cheaper than a boxed copy. As it is, retailers take a 50% cut; there's also no boxes, discs or manuals to add to manufacturing costs; setting up a download server is probably cheaper than physically distributing things too. It's only convenient for those selling the game tbh.

Exactly. Are people going to be stupid enough to pay 50 or 60 euro for New Releases when they are released this way? When you cut out all the costs of physical distribution they should only cost half that.

corcaigh07

there a video on LIVE that shows Mass Effect for 1600 points, thats not too bad.

markfla

well my 20G HDD is pretty much useless now! I've seen the odd rumour of a terabyte HDD on the way for the 360...that would be cool but can't see it....

rizzla

markfla wrote: »

well my 20G HDD is pretty much useless now! I've seen the odd rumour of a terabyte HDD on the way for the 360...that would be cool but can't see it....

Well, MS are getting rid of the Pro console. So there will just be the Arcade and the Elite. I think it could be a possiblilty, everything is moving to digital distribution.

Soby

Jesus Oblvion will prob take a age to download.Good list of games though

bucks73

Too expensive though. According to Joystiq games will be priced between 1600 and 2400 MS points or its equivalent in currency.

If the cheapest is 1600 points (EUR18.60) and the likes of Rainbow and Lego Star Wars is what you get then its too expensive. You can get Rainbow 2 cheaper than that. So that means the more expensive games will be selling for 2400 points (EUR27.90). Chances are you would get most of them cheaper in stores.

At those prices its not worth it.

mailrewop

theres seven 360 games available to download now

Assassins creed
Call of duty 2
Star wars TCS
Mass effect
Need for speed carbon
Oblivian
Viva pinata

too bad they want €30 per game , i said a few days ago that i was going to try it out, not anymore. no way is cod 2 or need for speed carbon worth €30. if they keep the prices like this theres no way its gonna work unless on the 11th the prices change

just took another look and if you want to use ms points its 2400

ciano1

Jaysus...I bought Need for speed carbon for €6 a while back in tesco !!:eek:

Rev. Kitchen

Are they gone mad charging 30 euro for a game and you cant trade it in afterwards!!

You can buy most of those games brand new in stores for about a 10-20 euro and you can get some cash back on them.

You can even get oblivian and bio shock on the 1 disk for 30 euro brand new !!! . this would be a great service if they where 10 euro which would be acceptable.

cobrastarship

and there is going to be fools going to buy the games its hady for x-mas do

ShaneU

€30 is a complete joke, I can buy assassins creed at play.com for €12.

bmdmac

The hard drive is going to be a real pain, 20Gb with only 13 available. So one game installed at a time. There new NXE that is coming out soon decreases install space needed for most games so that might be handy. I remember seeing DiRT in a video demo of this, kinda disappointed that hasn't made it, maybe they are waiting for the new one to be released first.

nevaeh-2die-4

30 is a joke and for the people that say convenience there is nothing convenient about downloading a 6gb game, that would take forever.

I’m all for full game downloads but at a price that matches the shops.

They also have to note that were not getting the box or manual/artwork which people like myself like to have that on the shelf.

thegoth

Hi All,

I just want to throw this out there. I think that the upcoming games on demand feature will be very bad for consumers in the long term.

I fear that if take up of this service is high, it will drive both online and traditional stores out of business, and we will have to pay whatever the gaming companies demand. Over the weekend I found an old PS2 game I had with the price sticker still on it. The game was bought in 2001 for £50. Since then, prices have fallen alot, mostly thanks to online competition. Also, the second hand game market has exploded with traditional stores such as xtravision and gamestop, as well as ebay. For example, this weekend gone by, I was in gamestop in finglas. I saw race pro and the official MS steering wheel. I decided to treat myself, but it was €140 for both new. I ended up getting both second hand for €90 with a guarentee. If this games on demand experiment works, we can kiss good buy to such deals.

I for one intend to support either the online or traditional stores for the above reasons.

Opinions anyone

wayhey

If there was a monopoly of ONLY an online on demand services then maybe that would be the case. But that'll never happen. I've an Xbox nearly 2 years and only got Live there a few weeks ago, mainly cos of broadband. Most people aren't that stupid that they won't shop around first for deals or whatever. I mainly buy secondhand and like yourself always check there isn't one already before forking out top dollar. It can only bring competition and I'd be all for the downloads if they're cheaper.

Has iTunes destroyed HMV?

Kinetic^

There was an exact duplicate of this thread halfway down the page, no need to start another.

RAIN

Steam has been around for ages, this is just something that Msoft are doing to get a foot in the downloadable title market. Why would I pay 30 quid to download Mass Effect with no box art or anything when I can walk into xtra vision and get it 2nd hand for a 12 quid.

This will balance things a bit but it aint going to take games off retailer's shelve's....yet, imagine trying to download GTA5 on the release day?? Live would probably start screaming out through your xbox.

Currently developers and publishers make nothing from the 2nd hand market, this isn't really the consumers problem but its also a bad thing for small independents trying to put a good title out and get as much return as they can so as they can make another game. When you download a game its on your harddrive and cant be traded in, it also give's Dev's more chance of flogging DLC if you have the game on your drive. There is a lot of stuff to iron out before we see Games on demand take over from retail releases.......Gamestop is safe enough i rekon :P

Snakeblood

RAIN wrote: »

Steam has been around for ages, this is just something that Msoft are doing to get a foot in the downloadable title market. Why would I pay 30 quid to download Mass Effect with no box art or anything when I can walk into xtra vision and get it 2nd hand for a 12 quid.

This will balance things a bit but it aint going to take games off retailer's shelve's....yet, imagine trying to download GTA5 on the release day?? Live would probably start screaming out through your xbox.

Currently developers and publishers make nothing from the 2nd hand market, this isn't really the consumers problem but its also a bad thing for small independents trying to put a good title out and get as much return as they can so as they can make another game. When you download a game its on your harddrive and cant be traded in, it also give's Dev's more chance of flogging DLC if you have the game on your drive. There is a lot of stuff to iron out before we see Games on demand take over from retail releases.......Gamestop is safe enough i rekon :P

I think you're right but for stuff like GTA5, they might do it like Steam, where you preload the game before the release date, and then send you an activation key on the day. It'll probably drop anyway, but yeah.

RAIN

Yes your right actually, wasent using my brainbox !

Preloads ftw

bmdmac

Just got the download, all the listed games are there for 30 quid what a joke really. Getting screwed if the americans are gettin it got 20 dollars a pop.

James Howlett

wayhey wrote: »

If there was a monopoly of ONLY an online on demand services then maybe that would be the case. But that'll never happen. I've an Xbox nearly 2 years and only got Live there a few weeks ago, mainly cos of broadband. Most people aren't that stupid that they won't shop around first for deals or whatever. I mainly buy secondhand and like yourself always check there isn't one already before forking out top dollar. It can only bring competition and I'd be all for the downloads if they're cheaper.

Has iTunes destroyed HMV?[/quote]

Are you kidding me?
I agree with a lot of what thegoth says. Long-run this is a very bad thing.
I could rant bout this for so long on local employment alone but it doesn't really belong in this thread.

corcaigh07

i think itunes has hurt HMV and such quite a bit actually, almost impossible to find rare albums in stores now.

Gunmonkey

bmdmac wrote: »

Just got the download, all the listed games are there for 30 quid what a joke really. Getting screwed if the americans are gettin it got 20 dollars a pop.

Poor aussies have to pay 6000 MSP for a single game Ya think this would be their saving grace as game prices are massively inflated due to shipping em over to there.

James Howlett

corcaigh07 wrote: »

i think itunes has hurt HMV and such quite a bit actually, almost impossible to find rare albums in stores now.

Indeed, stores can only afford to stock items that are a guaranteed sell, like generic pop stuff and anything HSM related. Rare cool stuff gets brushed away as its too much of a risk to have dead money on the shelves.

Befroe someone asks "what has this to do with games?"

Well imagine you want to buy great game like ICO but can't because stores can only afford to stock Fifa.

Ri_Nollaig

ShaneU wrote: »

€30 is a complete joke, I can buy assassins creed at play.com for €12.

just look at steam!
most games are still 40+ euro
I think cod4 is still 49.99 while I picked it up for PC about 2 weeks ago for 19.99...

Batesy

Is there an option to use MS points to pay? I can just see the price set at €29.99.

At least with points you could buy them online at a discounted price.

rizzla

Batesy wrote: »

Is there an option to use MS points to pay? I can just see the price set at €29.99.

At least with points you could buy them online at a discounted price.

I think when you select to buy it an option will be displayed saying change payment option. Should be able to switch it in there. I'm not 100% and just going on speculation.

Ricky91t

mailrewop wrote: »

no sign of any price structure yet and with my 2mb connection i don't know if its worth it seeing as it takes forever to download a demo thats 1gig. i'll give it a go anyway.

Really?
I'm on a 2mb connection and have already download 20% of a 1.13gb demo in 15-20 mins,Leave it download over night maybe?When contention is lower?

Edit : Took me 1 hr 15mins to download 1.13gb on my 1.98mb(usually) should be fine!

Gamer Bhoy 89

Now, is Games on Demand only gona be planting old (but good, of course) games from like 2006-07? or will they be eventually adding new releases?

Probably too soon to tell, I get curious about things like these lol

bucks73

Ms already said new releases will not be on there. Only "recent" releases. How recent they are is another thing.

Shammy

29.99 for a game that you can pick up for under a tenner is a rip off