Have Mayo or Meath a chance this year?

eddie73

Everyone is focusing and rightly so on Kerry and Corks performances over the weekend and their vast superiority. Tyrone too have proved in the past 6 years that their pedigry is that of champions.

What about Mayo and Meath?

I feel that Meath do not have much of a hope but I think that Mayo have the potential to make a very good account of themselves this year.

blackhead

As a Mayo supporter I would consider is us rank outsiders.
We've only played a few games, and not had a huge challenge so to speak.
We have yet to face Meath, so not even in semis yet.
It's hard to judge as we've not faced one of the big teams yet.
I would fancy Kerry Tyrone on current form, but wouldn't it be lovely to have an upset, it's all gone as expected thus far in the championship.
Looking forward to the Meath game Sunday, and I think we'll be better able to access our form then.
I've got to be honest I'm not sure what Meath are like as I missed their match against Limerick.
They could be the underdogs too? All to play for

brandon_flowers

No

zebrafumbler

No, Kirri for the All Ireland.

ontheditch

Mayo will lose to Meath. Mayo are still hungover from the fight in 96, when Meath allegedly rodbbed them of the all ireland title. They will not be able to concentrate on the game and Meath will win. Mayo are nototious bottlers and this is the best chance they have had in yearsm but they will bottle it.
Then Meath will play Kerry in the semi and Kerry will be out for revenge from the 2001 match, and they will hammer Meath.
Kerry breeze to the All Ireland final and should then be taken to the sword by Cork or Tyrone

rossie1977

ontheditch wrote: »

Mayo will lose to Meath. Mayo are still hungover from the fight in 96, when Meath allegedly rodbbed them of the all ireland title. They will not be able to concentrate on the game and Meath will win. Mayo are nototious bottlers and this is the best chance they have had in yearsm but they will bottle it.
Then Meath will play Kerry in the semi and Kerry will be out for revenge from the 2001 match, and they will hammer Meath.
Kerry breeze to the All Ireland final and should then be taken to the sword by Cork or Tyrone

thats it all settled so, i won't bother watching for the rest of the year, wake me when september ends :pac:

busbybhoy

ontheditch wrote: »

Mayo will lose to Meath. Mayo are still hungover from the fight in 96, when Meath allegedly rodbbed them of the all ireland title. They will not be able to concentrate on the game and Meath will win. Mayo are nototious bottlers and this is the best chance they have had in yearsm but they will bottle it.
Then Meath will play Kerry in the semi and Kerry will be out for revenge from the 2001 match, and they will hammer Meath.
Kerry breeze to the All Ireland final and should then be taken to the sword by Cork or Tyrone

Thanks for this well thought out statement. As Rossie said we can all get on with our lives since its all decided.

'96 was 13 years ago mate. Most of the current team were playing under 12 at the time. And in fairness i think it is the only game i have ever seen where we can put a case forward for being "robbed". We were All-Ireland champs if a ball hadnt bounced over a bar...How many times have u seen that happen since? As for the fight.....Liam McHale was sent off when he was clearly seen to be trying to stop the fight.

Looking forward to the game at the weekend....Any news on Bray yet? He will be a huge loss

Daroxtar

ontheditch wrote: »

Mayo will lose to Meath. Mayo are still hungover from the fight in 96, when Meath allegedly rodbbed them of the all ireland title. They will not be able to concentrate on the game and Meath will win. Mayo are nototious bottlers and this is the best chance they have had in yearsm but they will bottle it.
Then Meath will play Kerry in the semi and Kerry will be out for revenge from the 2001 match, and they will hammer Meath.
Kerry breeze to the All Ireland final and should then be taken to the sword by Cork or Tyrone

Mayo only bottle it in the final so dont be too surprised to see them there facing Tyrone or Cork. Mayo should realistically have very few problems with Meath who have been poor and lucky to get through the qualifiers against average teams and Kerry are still be beatable. One good performance against an overhyped dublin team does not make them champs. I can see Mayo in the final, i just cant see them winning it.

buck65

No

Deedsie

I think Mayo will beat Meath. Mayo are bad but Meath are worse. Kerry will be in the final now anyway. Kerry v Cork/Tyrone

redmenace1

They have a chance of winning the next game but not the one after..........

CyberDave

Kerry were good, but beat a terrible Dublin team. How much better were Kerry made to look against the Dubs, by Dublin giving them so much space and time on the ball? That has been Kerrys best performance by far all year. Until they can reproduce something something like it again, I am not convinced. Neither Mayo or Meath will give Kerry the kind of space Dublin did yesterday. Kerry would probably beat Meath easily enough, but I would expect Mayo to run them close at the very least.

gpjordanf1

eddie73 wrote: »

Everyone is focusing and rightly so on Kerry and Corks performances over the weekend and their vast superiority. Tyrone too have proved in the past 6 years that their pedigry is that of champions.

What about Mayo and Meath?

I feel that Meath do not have much of a hope but I think that Mayo have the potential to make a very good account of themselves this year.

Mayo has every chance to go all the way this year.

Everyone has wrote them off but they are playing well with a lot of belief & confidence, not as one dimensonal as they were and no egos running the camp.

I'm quietly confident if I'm honest!

P.S
Did any of ye hear that douche Spillane saying that Tyrone, Cork or Meath wouldn't beat Kerry yesterday. I guess he's letting us know Meath are his favourites. Very childish from the orgasmic kerryman!

lukin

I'd say whoever wins between Mayo and Meath will be well pumped up for Kerry after what O' Rourke said on Sunday; "Kerry are already in the final".
How funny would it be if those words came back to haunt him!:)

larrytom

lukin wrote: »

I'd say whoever wins between Mayo and Meath will be well pumped up for Kerry after what O' Rourke said on Sunday; "Kerry are already in the final".
How funny would it be if those words came back to haunt him!:)

hillarious

MRJ

Daroxtar wrote: »

Mayo only bottle it in the final so dont be too surprised to see them there facing Tyrone or Cork. Mayo should realistically have very few problems with Meath who have been poor and lucky to get through the qualifiers against average teams and Kerry are still be beatable. One good performance against an overhyped dublin team does not make them champs. I can see Mayo in the final, i just cant see them winning it.

how have meath been poor and lucky to get through the the qualifiers
meath 1.13 limerick 2.9
meath 2.12 roscommon .11
meath 1.15 weatmeath 1.05
meath 1.20 waterford .8
with the exception of the limerick result they were fairly comprehensive results and the two limerick goals were against the run of play and should never of stood anyway

gingerGiant

MRJ wrote: »

how have meath been poor and lucky to get through the the qualifiers
meath 1.13 limerick 2.9
meath 2.12 roscommon .11
meath 1.15 weatmeath 1.05
meath 1.20 waterford .8
with the exception of the limerick result they were fairly comprehensive results and the two limerick goals were against the run of play and should never of stood anyway

I agree they were comprehensive results, but a top class team would never have allowed limerick get back into that game and as for the other teams, well they are all pretty weak at the moment.

As a Meath-man I am hopeful we can give Mayo a close game, and maybe if we can stay with them, we could sneak it at the end, if it's close they might bottle it but to be honest I can see them winning be about 3-4 points.

alrudd

I think Mayo will win on sunday but stranger things have happened so who knows.If they do though i wouldnt expect anythingless than them to run Kerry close enough tbf.Remember in 96 when everyone tipped Kerry to win easily and look what happened.It would be one of the great upsets in the GAA if Mayo were to beat Kerry after there demolition job of the Dubs.

COME ON MAYO.

caesar

Ya we have a chance as do Meath.

Kerry demolished a Dublin team that stood 3-4 yards off them for 70 minutes so its hard to know how good they really are - this year that is. Having said that Kerry have proved themselves yet again and in a way I gained more respect for some of the class individuals on their team. I guess I didn't want to rate them before. It wasn't that I didn't rate them it's just that I hate to acknowledged it having watched them tear us apart in 04 and 06. But lets be straight here lads they tore us apart and they along with Tyrone are the teams of the decade.....there is no denying it.

Anyway I feel that this Mayo team has a different shape to it but they have a long way to go yet. Having said that I think Kerry have their problems, as well as Tyrone and Cork.

As for Mayo people looking to Kerry already, this is not down to Mayo people dismissing Meath, it is purely down to the fact the we owe Kerry one and we know that if we get over Meath that we will have that chance. Its hard not to think about it. I'm trying to put it to the back of my mind til Sunday evening.

And to be honest feel it would be pointless for us to beat Meath and not go all the way. I wouldn't normally take this view, I'd stay til the end of a hammering but it wont do Mayo football any good to lose an All-Ireland semi or a dare I say it a final again.

Thats my 2 cents...

alrudd

caesar wrote: »

Ya we have a chance as do Meath.

Kerry demolished a Dublin team that stood 3-4 yards off them for 70 minutes so its hard to know how good they really are - this year that is. Having said that Kerry have proved themselves yet again and in a way I gained more respect for some of the class individuals on their team. I guess I didn't want to rate them before. It wasn't that I didn't rate them it's just that I hate to acknowledged it having watched them tear us apart in 04 and 06. But lets be straight here lads they tore us apart and they along with Tyrone are the teams of the decade.....there is no denying it.

Anyway I feel that this Mayo team has a different shape to it but they have a long way to go yet. Having said that I think Kerry have their problems, as well as Tyrone and Cork.

As for Mayo people looking to Kerry already, this is not down to Mayo people dismissing Meath, it is purely down to the fact the we owe Kerry one and we know that if we get over Meath that we will have that chance. Its hard not to think about it. I'm trying to put it to the back of my mind til Sunday evening.

And to be honest feel it would be pointless for us to beat Meath and not go all the way. I wouldn't normally take this view, I'd stay til the end of a hammering but it wont do Mayo football any good to lose an All-Ireland semi or a dare I say it a final again.

Thats my 2 cents...

Well said.I couldnt agree more,it would be great to beat Meath obviuosly but it would be even sweeter if we went all the way and brought sam home after beating Kerry along the way aswell.

grenache

MRJ wrote: »

the two limerick goals were against the run of play and should never of stood anyway

Nothing wrong with the first Limerick goal. But yes the second goal was a definite square ball. Limerick lost the game in the first half when instead of taking the game to Meath, they sat deep playing against the breeze and invited Meath onto them, giving them
a 4 point lead at half time which they never recovered from. I also think the month long lay-off did Limerick no favours. They looked very rusty. Meath were clearly the fresher team. As for Meath-Mayo, had the Royals Stephen Bray, i would give them a great chance but without arguably their best forward its going to be tough. That said, i think Brian Farrell and Peadar Byrne are playing very well of late and if Cian Ward can find his shooting boots then they will push Mayo all the way. Meath backs (especially Harrington and all the half back line) looked assured against Limerick, but Mayo's forwards are much better, and Mortimer, Moran and co will provide a stiffer challenge. I would hesitantly give Mayo the nod by 2 points, but it would not surprise me one bit if Meath carried the day. I dont think either team will beat Kerry in the semi final.

TomMc

As a Meathman, I would prefer to be playing Mayo on a smaller pitch rather than Croke Park, but alas. They do not really have the fitness to play this hand passing & running game instead of kick and catch for 70 mins. Meath will have to employ more use of the early long ball style down the middle, utilising Joe Sheridan's strength in particular (who has come good in the play-offs) if they are to be successful, otherwise previous failings at Croke Park will be repeated. If the forwards get a decent supply, well Meath have a real chance. Especially if Cian Ward and Brian Farrell are on form and Peadar Byrne making those long runs. They will miss Stephen Bray big time, if it comes to that. The half forward line needs to work (that is paramount), otherwise the full-forward line will be working with crumbs.

While I like Anthony Moyles as a player over the years, he is a bit slow for the position of full back, especially against top class forwards. Experience and reading the game will only get you so far. Thankfully the other backs (lower profile players) have excelled in recent weeks.

Midfield is also a problem. Nigel Crawford gets better with age, has fielded some amazing balls recently but needs a partner who will share the workload, be proactive not just remain on the fringes of games.

Hopefully Mayo's few weeks off and Meath's match sharpness (if tiried limbs) will give us an edge.

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As for Kerry, I think a big win like the one against Dublin doesn't augur well for their next match. It has become the norm for teams to fail to match those performances in the next game over the years and more often than not be quite the opposite. Complacency from Kerry would suit Mayo or Meath, especially if Kerry have their eye on Cork or Tyrone at the same time.

The one thing we can say that as even the best teams have off days, the championship is more wide open this year than ever before. Cork, Kerry, Tyrone - it is there for whoever wants it the most. While we aren't good enough yet to win an All-Ireland, if Mayo got past us, they might scupper Kerry's plans and who knows beyond that. The relative weakness in Connaught football, would count against them, maybe even by this Sunday.

ADTR

Mayo, yes. Meath, no.

blinding

TomMc wrote: »

As a Meathman, I would prefer to be playing Mayo on a smaller pitch rather than Croke Park, but alas. They do not really have the fitness to play this hand passing & running game instead of kick and catch for 70 mins.

To be honest I thought the Dubs had the same problem against Kerry on Monday. The Dubs are either doing too much weights or they are simply not fit enough and that was right from the start of the game.

As a Mayo man I am hoping that Meath have the same fitness regime(or is that non fitness) as the Dubs.

Kerry were just more athletic and sharper. Heres hoping Mayo are fitter and sharper than Meath.

NufcNavan

TomMc wrote: »

As a Meathman, I would prefer to be playing Mayo on a smaller pitch rather than Croke Park, but alas. They do not really have the fitness to play this hand passing & running game instead of kick and catch for 70 mins. Meath will have to employ more use of the early long ball style down the middle, utilising Joe Sheridan's strength in particular (who has come good in the play-offs) if they are to be successful, otherwise previous failings at Croke Park will be repeated. If the forwards get a decent supply, well Meath have a real chance. Especially if Cian Ward and Brian Farrell are on form and Peadar Byrne making those long runs. They will miss Stephen Bray big time, if it comes to that. The half forward line needs to work (that is paramount), otherwise the full-forward line will be working with crumbs.

While I like Anthony Moyles as a player over the years, he is a bit slow for the position of full back, especially against top class forwards. Experience and reading the game will only get you so far. Thankfully the other backs (lower profile players) have excelled in recent weeks.

Midfield is also a problem. Nigel Crawford gets better with age, has fielded some amazing balls recently but needs a partner who will share the workload, be proactive not just remain on the fringes of games.

Hopefully Mayo's few weeks off and Meath's match sharpness (if tiried limbs) will give us an edge.

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As for Kerry, I think a big win like the one against Dublin doesn't augur well for their next match. It has become the norm for teams to fail to match those performances in the next game over the years and more often than not be quite the opposite. Complacency from Kerry would suit Mayo or Meath, especially if Kerry have their eye on Cork or Tyrone at the same time.

The one thing we can say that as even the best teams have off days, the championship is more wide open this year than ever before. Cork, Kerry, Tyrone - it is there for whoever wants it the most. While we aren't good enough yet to win an All-Ireland, if Mayo got past us, they might scupper Kerry's plans and who knows beyond that. The relative weakness in Connaught football, would count against them, maybe even by this Sunday.

Good post, although I disagree with you on the Midfield bit. Crawford is argubly playing better now than he ever has. Brian Meade had a great game against Limerick aswell, so hopefully they can both be on form for Sunday.

premierstone

NufcNavan wrote: »

Good post, although I disagree with you on the Midfield bit. Crawford is argubly playing better now than he ever has. Brian Meade had a great game against Limerick aswell, so hopefully they can both be on form for Sunday.

John Galvin must be some man so he seemed to beat the two of them on he's own.

ontheditch

busbybhoy wrote: »

Thanks for this well thought out statement. As Rossie said we can all get on with our lives since its all decided.

'96 was 13 years ago mate. Most of the current team were playing under 12 at the time. And in fairness i think it is the only game i have ever seen where we can put a case forward for being "robbed".

Hope ye are enjoying ye're break lads..;)

anmhi02

Well as ye all know that by now Meath Whooped Mayo's ass!! So much for the underdogs! We ie Meath have the want and fire this year as well as a strong and up and coming team with the older and more experienced lads too! Dont be knocking us out of it just yet. You could be eating your words and leave a very bitter taste in your mouths! UP THE ROYALS!1:)

grenache

I shall be supporting Meath from now until whenever they exit the championship. Hopefully it will be a Meath-Cork final. That way, Limerick, having lost to both of these teams by one point, can rightfully claim to be the third best team in the country.

beautifulmeath

I think if meath get past kerry, they'll beat whoever they meet in the final. We love Croke Park and relish in being the underdogs, so I think we have that in our favour

Malmedicine

beautifulmeath wrote: »

I think if meath get past kerry, they'll beat whoever they meet in the final. We love Croke Park and relish in being the underdogs, so I think we have that in our favour

We are without doubt the worst team in the semi finals. But anything can happen in football. Delusions of grandeur are just that delusions. I'd love to see us bring same home but I think we need to ground ourselves, we need to play the game of our lives while the others have days off. Hopefully!