John Miskella

Orizio

Has played exceptionally well against Kerry (twice) and Donegal again today. Quick, energetic, skillful, intelligent, accurate and full of elan, a real joy to watch.

The best player of the All-Ireland championship so far?

lukin

Orizio wrote: »

Has played exceptionally well against Kerry (twice) and Donegal again today. Quick, energetic, skillful, intelligent, accurate and full of elan, a real joy to watch.

The best player of the All-Ireland championship so far?

He's good alright, bit early to call him the player of the year though. A defender who scores points is always likely to catch the eye. Against Tyrone he might be marking Dooher so he will have enough on his hands full keeping tabs on him.

Orizio

He probably won't be on Dooher, O'Leary would be.

alrudd

He was great against Donegal but had way too much space to operate in and run at their defence without been really pressured.Will be interesting to see how he does against Tyrone the next day though.

Pride Fighter

Orizio wrote: »

The best player of the All-Ireland championship so far?

Jason Sherlock.

K-9

Would have helped if he was man marked, but yes, always thought he was a fine footballer.

Early would be my player of the championship so far.

soundsham

Pride Fighter wrote: »

Jason Sherlock.

:pac:

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sorry just got a bit of sick in my mouth
cant kick the ball from outside 25 yards
he'll be a sore boy tomorrow me thinks

byhookorbycrook

Pride Fighter wrote: »

Jason Sherlock.

a show-boater..the GAA tried to make an icon of him a while back, doesn't hold a candle to so many other fine footballers. He's the Dan Shananhan of football.

Orizio

Pride Fighter wrote: »

Jason Sherlock.

:P;)

deisedude

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

a show-boater..the GAA tried to make an icon of him a while back, doesn't hold a candle to so many other fine footballers. He's the Dan Shananhan of football.

Dan Shanahan scored 8-12 from play in 2007. No hurler has done so much damage in a season. Shows what you know, **** all:mad:

Orizio

Dan Shanahan is very inconsistent though, great one year, bad for the next two.

Anyway, this thread is about John Miskella's greatness.

byhookorbycrook

Deisedude, you get hurler of the year for that particular year. The score he was getting all the praise for in the last match was actually hit in by Brick Walshe's brother. 8-12 not so great if if no other forward is scoring.Plus, if you go through qualifiers etc, scoring chances are going to be higher anyhow.

Rosstafarian

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

Deisedude, you get hurler of the year for that particular year. The score he was getting all the praise for in the last match was actually hit in by Brick Walshe's brother. 8-12 not so great if if no other forward is scoring. Plus, if you go through qualifiers etc, scoring chances are going to be higher anyhow.

All of that is completely wrong.

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

The score he was getting all the praise for in the last match was actually hit in by Brick Walshe's brother.

He set up the goal against Galway by catching the ball and putting on a plate for Shane Walsh to tap it home. He changed the game and swung it in Waterford's favour.

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

8-12 not so great if if no other forward is scoring.

Hows 1-20 from Eoin Kelly alone that season? Or Stephen Molumphy's contribution of 2-5? Paul Flynn's 2-12 was also a healthy tally. Get your facts right.

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

Plus, if you go through qualifiers etc, scoring chances are going to be higher anyhow.

Waterford won the Munster title that year so they didn't go through any qualifiers.

Too easy:rolleyes:

Rosstafarian

To bring the thread back on topic, Miskella is having a great year. Paul Galvin or Declan O Sullivan are players of the championship for me so far.

deisedude

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

Deisedude, you get hurler of the year for that particular year. The score he was getting all the praise for in the last match was actually hit in by Brick Walshe's brother. 8-12 not so great if if no other forward is scoring.Plus, if you go through qualifiers etc, scoring chances are going to be higher anyhow.

First off, Dans introduction against Galway was pivotal in changing the game. He caught the ball under immense pressure from the Galway back and was fouled. The ref Kirwan allowed advantage be played and Dan laid off the perfect ball for Shane Walsh. (who isnt Brick Walshs brother BTW) As for your other points, the other forwards were scoring it was the soft goals they leaked that were Waterfords downfall. Also 2007 Waterford won Munster and didnt go through the backdoor.

Anyway i apologise for hijacking the thread. Back on topic John Miskella on current form is certainly in the running for player of the year. Great engine on him and well able to take his points

Pride Fighter

Rosstafarian wrote: »

To bring the thread back on topic, Miskella is having a great year. Paul Galvin or Declan O Sullivan are players of the championship for me so far.

Why, because of 1 game? Galvin has been suspended most of the year, but has been excellent on his return. The young Donegal full forward, Bernard Brogan (awful today though) and many of the Tyrone team have been better than the 2 you have mentioned.

Rosstafarian

Pride Fighter wrote: »

Why, because of 1 game? Galvin has been suspended most of the year, but has been excellent on his return. The young Donegal full forward, Bernard Brogan (awful today though) and many of the Tyrone team have been better than the 2 you have mentioned.

Galvin was only suspended for one game. The replay against Cork. Donegal and Dublin players cannot be considered seen as both teams were shown up over the weekend to be incredibly poor.
I'm talking about the best players. You are trying to pick out lesser known players who stand out in their otherwise poor inter-county teams.
As for the Tyrone team, the only one I would consider would be Dooher. Cavanagh was held scoreless against Kildare.
I'm very surprised if you are a GAA fan and cannot recognise that the two players I've mentioned have been outstanding so far this year; in more than just one game.

howyanow

sean og de paor was the best wing back i ever sw,defended well,scored points,never sent off and always made his marker defend.has the medals to show.if miskella can win an all ireland with cork he should get player of the year,great point taker on the run.modern football teams need both wing backs scoring 2/3 points.dissapointed with the dubs and galway this summer,think its any1 from mayo,cork,tyrone,kerry.good football ahead

Pride Fighter

Rosstafarian wrote: »

Galvin was only suspended for one game. The replay against Cork. Donegal and Dublin players cannot be considered seen as both teams were shown up over the weekend to be incredibly poor.
I'm talking about the best players. You are trying to pick out lesser known players who stand out in their otherwise poor inter-county teams.
As for the Tyrone team, the only one I would consider would be Dooher. Cavanagh was held scoreless against Kildare.
I'm very surprised if you are a GAA fan and cannot recognise that the two players I've mentioned have been outstanding so far this year; in more than just one game.

They did absolutely brilliant against division 4 footballers:rolleyes:

Rosstafarian

Pride Fighter wrote: »

They did absolutely brilliant against division 4 footballers:rolleyes:

Well the footballers you've proposed for player of the year aren't much better than div 4 standard. They can only play against who's in front of them. And league standing doesn't matter a **** in the championship.

homerjay2005

many many contenders. michael mcgrath for donegal is one lad and he will get an all star.

cork have many candidates, not just miskella.

paul galvin is definately a candidate and if kerry are to win sam, he will get our POTY so is safe to say, is a massive possibility that he could get overall player of the year. a decent semi and the all star is his. his sending off will count against him, but i thought he was good against cork and then he has been super over the past 3 games.

the all ireland final normally plays a massive part in deciding the player of the year.

grenache

Rosstafarian wrote: »

Galvin was only suspended for one game. The replay against Cork.

Galvin was actually sent off in that replay and was suspended for the qualifier game against Longford. I think he has been Kerry's best performer this year along with Mike McCarthy. John Miskella, Pierce O'Neill, Paddy Bradley, Conor Gormley, Dermot Earley, Leighton Glynn, Michael Murphy and Ronan McGarrity have been the other standout players of the championship so far.

brandon_flowers

Paul Galvin is the only Kerry contender. Have to mention Canty here too... without him around Miskella wouldn't be going further up the field as much. Canty is the man this Cork team is built around and is having a great season even if its not eye-catching stuff he is playing, he is rock soild though.

Michael McGrath will probably get YPOTY, dont see anyone in the teams left that could challenge him. Reminds me of Maurice Fitz a bit, seems to be going a lot slower than everyone else and never gets caught because he is too skillful. Has a poor enough left leg at the moment but if it improves he will be a serious player. Hope he doesn't become a victim of the drinking culture in Donegal that robbed Kevin Cassidy of a few years of his career after he won his All Star.

Rosstafarian

Murphy might get YPOTY but he won't get an All Star aswell.

Pierce O Neill has a lot of work to do after he was anonomous against Limerick in the Munster final. Lucey marked him out of the game.

And Paddy Bradley hasn't a hope in hell of an All-Star this year. Derry weren't even Ulster finalists.

Anthony Lynch will get one if he plays well against Tyrone and Paul Kerrigan and Daniel Goulding are contenders, depending on how Cork fair overall.

I wouldn't say Galvin is the only Kerry contender. Declan O Sullivan as I've said already and Tomás O Sé are playing great stuff.

grenache

Rosstafarian wrote: »

McGrath might get YPOTY but he won't get an All Star aswell.

Pierce O Neill has a lot of work to do after he was anonomous against Limerick in the Munster final. Lucey marked him out of the game.

And Paddy Bradley hasn't a hope in hell of an All-Star this year. Derry weren't even Ulster finalists.

Anthony Lynch will get one if he plays well against Tyrone and Paul Kerrigan and Daniel Goulding are contenders, depending on how Cork fair overall.

I wouldn't say Galvin is the only Kerry contender. Declan O Sullivan as I've said already and Tomás O Sé are playing great stuff.

Yes Stephen Lucey did a great job curtailing O'Neill in the Munster final, but he was excellent both days against Kerry and again last Sunday. Another good performance against Tyrone and he should nearly be a shoe-in.

Paddy Bradley wont be that far away from an All Star. Apart from the Derry-Monaghan Ulster championship game, he was very impressive in all the other games he played in.

brandon_flowers

Rosstafarian wrote: »

McGrath might get YPOTY but he won't get an All Star aswell.

Pierce O Neill has a lot of work to do after he was anonomous against Limerick in the Munster final. Lucey marked him out of the game.

And Paddy Bradley hasn't a hope in hell of an All-Star this year. Derry weren't even Ulster finalists.

Anthony Lynch will get one if he plays well against Tyrone and Paul Kerrigan and Daniel Goulding are contenders, depending on how Cork fair overall.

I wouldn't say Galvin is the only Kerry contender. Declan O Sullivan as I've said already and Tomás O Sé are playing great stuff.

There is an outside chance of Murphy getting the FF spot as neither Kerry, Cork or Tyrone have had a constant at FF this year and no one else really stands out. And the Player of The Year is a bit of a joke anyway, Declan O Sullivan won 3 out of 4 RTE Man of the Match awards in 2007* and didnt get POTY.

aDeener

miskella is top class, has to get an all star

K-9

brandon_flowers wrote: »

Paul Galvin is the only Kerry contender. Have to mention Canty here too... without him around Miskella wouldn't be going further up the field as much. Canty is the man this Cork team is built around and is having a great season even if its not eye-catching stuff he is playing, he is rock soild though.

Michael McGrath will probably get YPOTY, dont see anyone in the teams left that could challenge him. Reminds me of Maurice Fitz a bit, seems to be going a lot slower than everyone else and never gets caught because he is too skillful. Has a poor enough left leg at the moment but if it improves he will be a serious player. Hope he doesn't become a victim of the drinking culture in Donegal that robbed Kevin Cassidy of a few years of his career after he won his All Star.

McCarthy could be by the end of the year for Kerry.

I'm sure you mean Murphy and I'd say he's a shoe in for YPOTY and an All Star nomination. He is turning 20 this week so that may go against him for an award.

grenache wrote: »

Yes Stephen Lucey did a great job curtailing O'Neill in the Munster final, but he was excellent both days against Kerry and again last Sunday. Another good performance against Tyrone and he should nearly be a shoe-in.

Paddy Bradley wont be that far away from an All Star. Apart from the Derry-Monaghan Ulster championship game, he was very impressive in all the other games he played in.

Speaking of Bradley, Karl Lacey wouldn't be far off either. Best man marker in the Championship so far. Kept Bradley and Meehan quiet and even did ok against Cork, considering!

manster

I'd say the whole Cork team will get All-Stars. They're going brilliant all year and will beat Tyrone yet.

Orizio

manster wrote: »

I'd say the whole Cork team will get All-Stars. They're going brilliant all year and will beat Tyrone yet.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

You wouldn't be from Tyrone or Kerry would you?

david....

Pride Fighter wrote: »

Jason Sherlock.

so so overrated
i can name about a dozen better players this season even in the dublin team for example bearnerd brogan

Orizio wrote: »

Has played exceptionally well against Kerry (twice) and Donegal again today. Quick, energetic, skillful, intelligent, accurate and full of elan, a real joy to watch.
The best player of the All-Ireland championship so far?

he has been very good this season
but colm o neill had a great game against game against Donegal
he should be in the afl. has anyone heard any rumours that he might be going to Australia at the end of the season???
paudie kissane also came on a had a good game
(he played well against limrick too)

parkerpen

Thought this was supposed to be about John Miskella.- not a rant or a series of arguments about other players!! John is a lovely footballer and a genuinely nice lad too. He has great heart and that's what is lovely to see.

Pride Fighter

His boxing skills were not warranted today IMO.

Apart from that he played a stormer.

overmantle

Miskella has been brilliant this year and regardless of the result in the Final, he definitely deserves an All-Star.

Pride Fighter

overmantle wrote: »

Miskella has been brilliant this year and regardless of the result in the Final, he definitely deserves an All-Star.

I am pretty sure he will be suspended for that.

noaces

Pride Fighter wrote: »

I am pretty sure he will be suspended for that.

Agreed what he did deserves suspension. Would be interested to see how Kissane would get on if he replaces him?

DDC1990

Won't be suspended... He got his yellow, so the ref dealt with the issue.
Thats how Frank Murphy will plead anyway... Shur have you ever seen a Cork player serve a suspension before a (Possibly) Kerry game... Anthony Lynch... Donnach O'Connor

paddy978

Should be suspended but he plays for Cork so he wont.If it was Galvin however....
But he plays for Cork its v Kerry so he will be fine.
Shame that thuggery doesnt belong on a football field

Hammer Archer

The only thing about the Miskella incident today was that John Bannon didn't see it himself and went on the advice of the umpire. If he has any sense, he will watch it again and realise he should have gotten a red.

jimmystars

paddy978 wrote: »

Should be suspended but he plays for Cork so he wont.If it was Galvin however....
But he plays for Cork its v Kerry so he will be fine.
Shame that thuggery doesnt belong on a football field

Poor ould Gaviln always the victim. Better see a fella throw a punch than act like a baby when sent off or dive around when not touched or drop his knee onto a player on the ground. Wouldnt put Miskella in the same category as that fella.

premierstone

I dont think Cork will be able to use the argument that the ref dealt with it, as has been said he didnt see the incident and was only acting on the advice of an umpire who was what 50 yards?? fron the incident, if bannon puts in he's report that he didnt see it he may well be asked to review the decision and if he does Miskella hasnt a leg to stand on.

paddy978

premierstone wrote: »

I dont think Cork will be able to use the argument that the ref dealt with it, as has been said he didnt see the incident and was only acting on the advice of an umpire who was what 50 yards?? fron the incident, if bannon puts in he's report that he didnt see it he may well be asked to review the decision and if he does Miskella hasnt a leg to stand on.

Your right the GAA will ban him.However he is from Cork so with the final being 5 weeks away said ban will be 4 weeks.The GAA would allow no Cork player miss it.

COB_here

i agree with ddc1990, the ref has given a sanction and dealt with the incident so im pretty sure hes safe,im sure the lads on the sunday game mite clear this up for us anyway!

Johnnyjump

The Cork players came out fighting in the second half. They were down to 14 men (completely unfairly) and they had to play the type of game Tyrone normally plays. On another day, Miskella might have been sent off by the ref but after the complete injustice of what happened to Alan O'Connor when Cork were cruising, the ref probably felt that he couldn't possibly put the nail in the coffin that he had started building for Cork in the 29th minute.
The only reason Cork were more aggressive in the second half was because of what happened in the first half, so what Miskella did was wrong but would almost certainly not have happened were it not for being reduced to 14 men unfairly. That changed the course of the game completely.
Miskella should not miss the All-Ireland Final. He has been a revelation this year. He is full of hard work. A nicer guy you could not meet.

K-9

premierstone wrote: »

I dont think Cork will be able to use the argument that the ref dealt with it, as has been said he didnt see the incident and was only acting on the advice of an umpire who was what 50 yards?? fron the incident, if bannon puts in he's report that he didnt see it he may well be asked to review the decision and if he does Miskella hasnt a leg to stand on.

I'd wonder what he was reported for. If it was striking it should be a red.

An Citeog

Johnnyjump wrote: »

The Cork players came out fighting in the second half. They were down to 14 men (completely unfairly) and they had to play the type of game Tyrone normally plays. On another day, Miskella might have been sent off by the ref but after the complete injustice of what happened to Alan O'Connor when Cork were cruising, the ref probably felt that he couldn't possibly put the nail in the coffin that he had started building for Cork in the 29th minute.
The only reason Cork were more aggressive in the second half was because of what happened in the first half, so what Miskella did was wrong but would almost certainly not have happened were it not for being reduced to 14 men unfairly. That changed the course of the game completely.
Miskella should not miss the All-Ireland Final. He has been a revelation this year. He is full of hard work. A nicer guy you could not meet.

Absolute bollox tbh! The same argument was made a couple of years ago when Noel O'Leary punched Geraghty off the ball and it's complete crap. Miskella's had a great year and should be a shoe-in for an All Star but there's no place for what he did on the pitch. He should be banned for the final.

Johnnyjump

An Citeog - Just wondering if you think that ALL the parts that you highlighted in my earlier contribution are what you referred to as 'bollox'?? You are perfectly entitled to your opinion on this one incident in today's match but I think you may have inadvertently highlighted too much. Otherwise, I'm definitely not the one who is talking a load of 'bollox'.
You won't meet a more decent guy than Miskella and the game took a terrible turn today due to some atrocious reffing. If anybody was to be banned from Croke Park, perhaps it should be the ref! He had an appalling game.

Johnnyjump

Incidentally, I note that the other player you've mentioned is also a Cork player. The behaviour of many Dublin players has obviously slipped your mind. Have no wish to get involved in a slagging match but that's a bit rich, An Citeog.

An Citeog

Johnnyjump wrote: »

An Citeog - Just wondering if you think that ALL the parts that you highlighted in my earlier contribution are what you referred to as 'bollox'?? You are perfectly entitled to your opinion on this one incident in today's match but I think you may have inadvertently highlighted too much. Otherwise, I'm definitely not the one who is talking a load of 'bollox'.
You won't meet a more decent guy than Miskella and the game took a terrible turn today due to some atrocious reffing. If anybody was to be banned from Croke Park, perhaps it should be the ref! He had an appalling game.

Everything that I bolded was complete rubbish imo. That includes your point that Miskella shouldn't be banned because he's a decent guy. Agreed on the referee though. I thought the refs in both games today were shocking.

Johnnyjump wrote: »

Incidentally, I note that the other player you've mentioned is also a Cork player. The behaviour of many Dublin players has obviously slipped your mind. Have no wish to get involved in a slagging match but that's a bit rich, An Citeog.

This isn't about Dublin though, it's about John Miskella. I have no problem condemning Dublin players for any wrongdoings. Off the pitch Ger Brennan is one of the nicest guys you'll meet but he deserved his red card and subsequent suspension against Kildare.

Dr. Shredder

should have been sent off for that stupidity in todays match. i think the ref may have taken into account the unfair red card earlier in the game. but still, miskella is a very very lucky man

deisedude

Johnnyjump wrote: »

The Cork players came out fighting in the second half. They were down to 14 men (completely unfairly) and they had to play the type of game Tyrone normally plays. On another day, Miskella might have been sent off by the ref but after the complete injustice of what happened to Alan O'Connor when Cork were cruising, the ref probably felt that he couldn't possibly put the nail in the coffin that he had started building for Cork in the 29th minute.
The only reason Cork were more aggressive in the second half was because of what happened in the first half, so what Miskella did was wrong but would almost certainly not have happened were it not for being reduced to 14 men unfairly. That changed the course of the game completely.
Miskella should not miss the All-Ireland Final. He has been a revelation this year. He is full of hard work. A nicer guy you could not meet.

So what you are saying is Miskella wouldnt have punched the Tyrone player if O'Connor wasnt sent off? That makes no sense, he's an adult he should know not to hit someone else. He has been a good player all year but if he plays in the All Ireland after pulling a cowardly stroke like that its a disgrace