Got pulled today

Midnight_EG

I'm 17, and I was out drivin today, was around Marley today droppin a friend off, started revvin', eggin on the punters an all that jazz, when a garda pulled me over, took my (provisional) license, took down the reg number and whatever, told me there better not be anything wrong with the car, and said look forward to a court summons within two weeks.

My questions are, what could have been wrong with the car, and will the summons go through, or will it fall under the radar. I ask because I was driving without full license driver or L plates, but then he let me off home, surely this would be dereliction of duty?

Thanks to anyone that replies.

Del2005

You'll get a few summons in the post for driving unaccompanied, non display of L plates and several others that I can't think off. Why should the Guard have to spend the rest of the day dealing with you being a twat when it's all done by mail?

Midnight_EG

So would this summons go through, or should I throw it over my head and forget?

TestTransmission

It'll go through,what kind of car do you drive out of interest?

Midnight_EG

A Honda Civic :L

L1011

If you get the summons, it'll go through. The Guard clearly didn't want to spend all day arguing with you over details.

Midnight_EG

It was literally only a minute, he tookmy licnese, took down whatever details and sent me on my way?

Del2005

Standard procedure now is to take details and send on the way, then send summons out when entered into Pulse. Just noticed your 17, all you'll get is a JLO call. Search the site for it.

Midnight_EG

So I'll basically get a curfew? Or just a threat of having a JLO? Not quite clear on it?

L1011

Doubt you'd get a curfew...

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/justice/children-and-young-offenders/garda-juvenile-diversion-programme gives full details of the setup

Midnight_EG

Oh, well 3 years ago I was arrested, shant go into it, and that got me off a JLO, providing I wasnt arrested again, havent been since, no trouble whatsoever, so will I be alright? Sorta shi**ing myself here :L

TestTransmission

MYOB wrote: »

Doubt you'd get a curfew...

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/justice/children-and-young-offenders/garda-juvenile-diversion-programme gives full details of the setup

A JLO relates to motoring offences aswell?

Your link advised it is for criminal offences

NewApproach

bollox that a 17 year old doesn't get the same punishments as 18 or 80 year olds when driving to be honest.

SV

You were sitting there revving? What?

Unfortunately for you, as a 17 year old with a learner permit in a honda civic with no L plates (You really ticked all the boxes there) I'd say you can expect a day out in court and don't expect to get off lightly either.

L1011

jackncoke wrote: »

A JLO relates to motoring offences aswell?

Your link advised it is for criminal offences

Think it covers everything that goes through the courts system. Definitely can be used for motoring offences.

Midnight_EG

Pretty much yeah, now im shi**ing it :[

Hooch

Midnight_EG wrote: »

So I'll basically get a curfew? Or just a threat of having a JLO? Not quite clear on it?

A JLO caution is what you'll get.....judging by your lack of understanding I take it you never got one before.

Its an official caution given to persons under 18 by a Garda in the presence of your parents. If you do not accept the caution you'll will be prosecuted. If you commit another offence would will likely be prosecuted.

On another note.....why would you do such a stupid thing....your drawing attention on yourself! Kepp the head down and stop acting like a child. In my opinion you stop being a child when you sit behing a wheel. How you dont take offence

Edit just say posts inbetween mine....arrested before.....enjoy the court system.

No L plates, unaccompanied, no licence......and whatever vehicle offences that were detected.

Berty

You couldn't have stood out more really.

17, Civic & Male.

The Garda probably thought "easy pickings".

mike65

Sounds like you'll be getting a basic lesson in manners and respect I think.

TestTransmission

NewApproach wrote: »

bollox that a 17 year old doesn't get the same punishments as 18 or 80 year olds when driving to be honest.

+1

Mossy Monk

Midnight_EG wrote: »

started revvin', eggin on the punters an all that jazz, when a garda pulled me over

LOL tbh

Midnight_EG

nice_guy_always, dont worry, no offence taken, I know it was a crappy thing to do an all, ruined a good day and whatever, but i really wanna forget about it you know. Woulda been fine if the girl didnt point me out like :[, but still, thick of me i know.

And yeah I've gotten away with the JLO caution before, as I said, 2-3 years ago.

WIZE

You seem very smug with this .

do you have €1000 to pay your fine for driving by yourself on a provisional licience and most likely another fine for not having L plates

L1011

BVB wrote: »

You seem very smug with this .

do you have €1000 to pay your fine for driving by yourself on a provisional licience and most likely another fine for not having L plates

If he gets the JLO those fine won't come in to it. But it'd be 2 grand otherwise with the two fines.

TheNog

Midnight_EG wrote: »

I'm 17, and I was out drivin today, was around Marley today droppin a friend off, started revvin', eggin on the punters an all that jazz, when a garda pulled me over, took my (provisional) license, took down the reg number and whatever, told me there better not be anything wrong with the car, and said look forward to a court summons within two weeks.

My questions are, what could have been wrong with the car, and will the summons go through, or will it fall under the radar. I ask because I was driving without full license driver or L plates, but then he let me off home, surely this would be dereliction of duty?

Thanks to anyone that replies.

You are only 17yrs old so you can be dealt with through the JLO for having no L-plates and no accompanied full licenced driver with you.

Also a Garda cannot take the car off you nor can a Garda stop you from driving away in your car so there is no dereliction of duty.

This is a great way to begin your driving career. Cop onto yourself and keep yourself out of trouble.

Midnight_EG

BVB wrote: »

You seem very smug with this .

do you have €1000 to pay your fine for driving by yourself on a provisional licience and most likely another fine for not having L plates

Where did I say i was smug? Honestly, I'm brickin myself like?

Hooch

Midnight_EG wrote: »

nice_guy_always, dont worry, no offence taken, I know it was a crappy thing to do an all, ruined a good day and whatever, but i really wanna forget about it you know. Woulda been fine if the girl didnt point me out like :[, but still, thick of me i know.

And yeah I've gotten away with the JLO caution before, as I said, 2-3 years ago.

Not being funny....grow up when behind the wheel and understand your actions. I certainly have my fill of fatals this year alone (not all youths before anyone attacks the O/P)

Wait and see what happens. If a summons arrives contact the Garda, say sorry (if you are) and ask could you be cautioned as you havint been in trouble for 2-3 years. Best of luck

BVB wrote: »

You seem very smug with this .

do you have €1000 to pay your fine for driving by yourself on a provisional licience and most likely another fine for not having L plates

Could be around €1500 depending on the other offences in court

Gary ITR

TheNog wrote: »

You are only 17yrs old so you can be dealt with through the JLO for having no L-plates and no accompanied full licenced driver with you.

Even if he has been dealt with by JLO before?

WIZE

nice guy always wrote: »

Not being funny....grow up when behind the wheel and understand your actions. I certainly have my fill of fatals this year alone (not all youths before anyone attacks the O/P)

Wait and see what happens. If a summons arrives contact the Garda, say sorry (if you are) and ask could you be cautioned as you havint been in trouble for 2-3 years. Best of luck



Could be around €1500 depending on the other offences in court

I would bet no JLO


I would say

1 . Fine for Driving Unaccompanied
2 . Fine for not displaying L plates
3. Points on Driving licence

TheNog

Onkle wrote: »

Even if he has been dealt with by JLO before?

A JLO will have to sent to the JLO office for consideration. If the OP has previous JLOs as he has just said, these JLOs will also be taken into consideration too. If it is felt he is not benefiting from the JLO or if the crime is not suitable for JLO they can direct the Garda to prosecute him in court.

Any crime not considered suitable for JLO would be a crime of the higher end of the scale such as murder, rape, kidnapping etc, etc. However if the OP has several thefts under his belt the JLO office eventually direct the OP to be prosecuted.

This is all hypothical of course and is no indication the OP has committed these crimes.

Midnight_EG

Sorry, seems you took it wrong, that citizens act or whatever got me off with a caution, rather than a JLO, so .... dunno really

TheNog

BVB wrote: »

I would bet no JLO


I would say

1 . Fine for Driving Unaccompanied
2 . Fine for not displaying L plates
3. Points on Driving licence

If you want to bet money on that then I will take you on. NGA and myself are both Gardai with NGA in the Traffic Corps. Maybe thats an unfair advantage.

Also you cannot get points on your licence for driving with no l-plates and not being accompanied.

Hooch

Onkle wrote: »

Even if he has been dealt with by JLO before?

TBH the JLO office is fully. They could recommend up to 3 cautions before whats know as blanket approval is issued.

Every time a garda wants to prosecute a person under 18 he must recieve JLO permission. Every time.

BVB wrote: »

I would bet no JLO


I would say

1 . Fine for Driving Unaccompanied
2 . Fine for not displaying L plates
3. Points on Driving licence

Points....for what???

Fine, fine, fine. All in court. Direct summons....no FCPS for these offences.

WIZE

TheNog wrote: »

If you want to bet money on that then I will take you on. NGA and myself are both Gardai with NGA in the Traffic Corps. Maybe thats an unfair advantage.

Also you cannot get points on your licence for driving with no l-plates and not being accompanied.

I bet you will win the BET:D

Midnight_EG

Seeing that I cant get points is a majoy relief, I dont want to get a license with 2 points stacked on already, I'm currently waiting for a date to do my test, so this is really fraying my nerves :[ although, every single person has been of the utmost help.thanks to everybody.

WIZE

Can you get points on a Provisional for speeding or anything

Hooch

BVB wrote: »

Can you get points on a Provisional for speeding or anything

Yes you can which are transferred to your full licence when you get it. Also points are only applied when you pay the fine....not from the date of the offence.

Under 18s normally get a JLO though.....

Oasis44

Midnight_EG wrote: »

A Honda Civic :L

Of course you drive a Honda civic - thats what all the knacker boy racers drive - Enjoy court you scumbag

Midnight_EG

Oasis44 wrote: »

Of course you drive a Honda civic - thats what all the knacker boy racers drive - Enjoy court you scumbag

Uhm, sound? Live in Saggart, have a passion for cars, in love with Hondas, spent my own money rather than 'robbing' it like a knacker would, and can I ask what brought on this insult? Was there a need for it?

Shield

No there wasn't. Ignore that.

Yakult

Oasis44 wrote: »

Of course you drive a Honda civic - thats what all the knacker boy racers drive - Enjoy court you scumbag

Chip on the aul shoulder?? :rolleyes:

OP - A bit of advice, throw up your L-plates and dont draw attention to yourself. Why would you give the guard a reason to pull you over?

Gary ITR

Oasis44 wrote: »

Of course you drive a Honda civic - thats what all the knacker boy racers drive - Enjoy court you scumbag

Oasis44 infracted. Any more and it's a ban


EDIT: I overlooked the scumbag bit at the end. Banned

Atomic Pineapple

R_H_C_P wrote: »

Chip on the aul shoulder?? :rolleyes:

OP - A bit of advice, throw up your L-plates and dont draw attention to yourself. Why would you give the guard a reason to pull you over?

+1

It was a fairly stupid thing to do,

young males get a hard enough time as it is, no need to go proving that your right to get a hard time.

ScouseMouse

Ok. Quick recap !

Young lad, Honda Civic, revving the engine to an audience.

mmmmmm


No L plates - offence
No qualified driver - offence


You should be summonsed as you are typically the kind of person who can and will get into more trouble in the future.


These are based on comments, not my views.

CharlieCroker

NGA, would I be right in saying he could get a summons for driving without reasonable consideration too?

OP, its quite possible that this will end up being dealt with through the JLO but be prepared to go to court.
Get your car in order ASAP, cop yourself on and learn from it.

Midnight_EG

superscouse wrote: »

Ok. Quick recap !

Young lad, Honda Civic, revving the engine to an audience.

mmmmmm


No L plates - offence
No qualified driver - offence


You should be summonsed as you are typically the kind of person who can and will get into more trouble in the future.


These are based on comments, not my views.

yes, yes, yes

I hope I dont get into anymore trouble really :[, really thick thing to do, but damn I hope I get a caution, dont wanna ruin my driving career before it starts, I'd rather get stopped and asked about the car, how I got the money for the mod's etc, rather than stopped for noise or other stupid actions

Midnight_EG

CharlieCroker wrote: »

NGA, would I be right in saying he could get a summons for driving without reasonable consideration too?

OP, its quite possible that this will end up being dealt with through the JLO but be prepared to go to court.
Get your car in order ASAP, cop yourself on and learn from it.

I was stopped in traffic at the time, so would it still be inconsiderate or?

And nothing wrong with the car at all, so it should be fine should it be inspected.

CharlieCroker

Well, make sure the L-plates are up, make sure your number plates are legal, no big sunvisor blocking half the windscreen, stup stuff like that.

Nothing wrong with modifying your car if thats what you want, but don't draw attention to yourself.

Midnight_EG

Theres the thing, I'm looking to change the colour, maybe, the car is currently black (only adds to the cop-appeal), so I was thinking either VTI blue or S2000 yellow, would either attract police more or? Not really sure :L

L1011

Yellow and white would attract attention more than any others I'd suspect, even black.

I've a factory 'modified' car that seems to be relatively invisible to police, its anthracite grey.

However, respraying a car properly costs SERIOUS money; and the colour is only a small factor in how noticeable it is!

Midnight_EG

Yeah I was thinking about a form of grey aswell, sort of...falls into the crowd eh, by any chance is that a Silvia you drive? Or else an Audi of some sort?