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how much to give

  • 30-07-2009 11:29am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭


    was at a mates wedding me and the other half put e150 in the card, was talking to my mate who got married and he told me 2 of our mates only put e70 per couple in there cards. i thought you at least cover the cost of the meal say at least e50 per person, just wondering what other people think how much is ok as a present,


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Too late now. What are you going to do ask for the difference back? :D Getting married in December and have been telling friends not to bother. Wedding is abroad as it is, so them just turning up is present enough tbh. A present is a present, all this talk of covering costs etc smacks of Eddie Hobbs. Just give what you can, and what feels right. Perhaps that means €20, perhaps it means €200.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 267 ✭✭esharknz


    I'd personally give enough to cover the cost of a meal.

    Then again, it all depends on the circumstances of the guest. If I couldn't afford the cost of the meal, then I'd only give what I could.

    We again aren't asking for any presents for our wedding. We've everything we need.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Four of a kind


    I'm best man at my mates wedding in a few weeks.....whats the story with bestman gifts for the couple??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭emma82


    Not going to be popular here but....

    We always cover the cost of my meal- I honestly think weddings are expensive enough on the B&G- planning my own I know this! Not being mean but if you can't afford to cover the cost of your meal you prob shouldn't go!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭ronn


    i did txt my mate and ask him for change,he he,,going to another wedding with the same people, we ve all talked amoungst the lads n said e100 to e150 would be plenty but then 2 mates cough up e70, both couples are working,
    was best man for my mates wedding sent them to a health spa for the day,


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 686 ✭✭✭bangersandmash


    emma82 wrote: »
    We always cover the cost of my meal- I honestly think weddings are expensive enough on the B&G- planning my own I know this! Not being mean but if you can't afford to cover the cost of your meal you prob shouldn't go!
    Not that the figure you're talking about is in any way unreasonable. But conversely you could say that if the B&G cannot afford to cover the cost of the wedding without relying on cash gifts from their guests, they're probably spending too much on the wedding. Don't forget that weddings are often expensive enough on the guests too.

    As for the Eddie Hobbs strategy of using a wedding to turn a quick profit... :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭Redpunto


    prinz wrote: »
    Too late now. What are you going to do ask for the difference back? :D Getting married in December and have been telling friends not to bother. Wedding is abroad as it is, so them just turning up is present enough tbh. A present is a present, all this talk of covering costs etc smacks of Eddie Hobbs. Just give what you can, and what feels right. Perhaps that means €20, perhaps it means €200.

    getting married at home is not the same as getting married at home - i think expecting people to travel is asking a huge amount money from the guests, of course people should only give what they can afford but €100 per couple wouldnt be a huge amount considering a nite out for a couple would be more than that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭Saint_Mel


    Bit of a catch 22. In the past few years any wedding I've been at we've given on average €150.
    However I was at a wedding a couple of years ago and while we gave money a lot of guests didnt as, in some of the guests own words, "sure they're loaded, have enough money as it is".
    I was talking to a mate about this recently and a wedding he is invited to had a note in with the invitation declaring that gifts to be €200 minimum


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    emma82 wrote: »
    Not going to be popular here but....
    We always cover the cost of my meal- I honestly think weddings are expensive enough on the B&G- planning my own I know this! Not being mean but if you can't afford to cover the cost of your meal you prob shouldn't go!

    Then spend less money :confused: A wedding for 100 - 150 could be done for in the region of 5k if you wanted it,
    Not that the figure you're talking about is in any way unreasonable. But conversely you could say that if the B&G cannot afford to cover the cost of the wedding without relying on cash gifts from their guests, they're probably spending too much on the wedding. Don't forget that weddings are often expensive enough on the guests too. As for the Eddie Hobbs strategy of using a wedding to turn a quick profit... :mad:

    +1. I thought it was about inviting people you cared about to share your big day and enjoy your party, not the other way round. It's my wedding, I'm throwing a party, I expect to be out of pocket.
    Redpunto wrote: »
    getting married at home abroad? is not the same as getting married at home - i think expecting people to travel is asking a huge amount money from the guests...

    Granted, and it isn't a matter of choice or fashion in our case ( as with most on here tbh ) the bride is German, therefore wedding in Germany. Nowt we can do about that. In my case, it will be immediate family and a few friends, max 30. Attendance in Germany is purely optional for those invited. Made clear no one was expected to attend. Will be throwing a house party back here anyway for everyone else. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered


    Very nice mate you have there.

    We're getting married next year and as far as I'm concerened, what one friend gives has nothing to do with another friend. We certainly won't be discussing it with other people.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭emma82


    prinz wrote: »
    Then spend less money :confused: A wedding for 100 - 150 could be done for in the region of 5k if you wanted it,



    5k for 150 at wedding- €33.30 per head, before you pay for the 'extras' you like dress, suits, church, flowers, photographer, premarraige course, honeymoon, bridesmaids dresses, music, invites- sure i'm forgetting something here! I think your living in dreamland with those prices! I used to think the same as you before I started looking into prices- now i know better.

    I was only expressing an opinion- I personally wouldn't go anywhere without knowing I could pay for something. I think the same should apply to weddings. Just an opinion- no need for critism!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 686 ✭✭✭bangersandmash


    emma82 wrote: »
    I was only expressing an opinion- I personally wouldn't go anywhere without knowing I could pay for something. I think the same should apply to weddings. Just an opinion- no need for critism!
    And personally I would never organise a party I couldn't afford, and then expect my guests to pay for it. I think the same should apply to weddings. Not a criticism, just a different way of looking at things :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    emma82 wrote: »
    5k for 150 at wedding- €33.30 per head, before you pay for the 'extras' you like dress, suits, church, flowers, photographer, premarraige course, honeymoon, bridesmaids dresses, music, invites- sure i'm forgetting something here! I think your living in dreamland with those prices! I used to think the same as you before I started looking into prices- now i know better.

    No I'm living in reality. Internet dress, church isnt prohibitive, a couple of flowers i.e. one bouquet for the bride and pin hole for the groom, honeymoon not neccessary - it's not part of the wedding is it, bridesmaids wear their own dresses, music is a sound system and a laptop, invites are homemade costs a few euro from Art & Hobby shop and far nicer than anything you'd buy, everyone has digital cameras and videocams these days so no need for a photographer and you rent a room and get caterers, instead of going to a hotel. Problem solved. You realise it's all optional? You're choosing to have all the extras. Personally I'm getting married in Germany like I said and it's coming in at roughly €3k including honeymoon.
    emma82 wrote: »
    I was only expressing an opinion- I personally wouldn't go anywhere without knowing I could pay for something. I think the same should apply to weddings. Just an opinion- no need for critism!

    You are invited as a guest to a wedding. It's not a BYOB party. You're not selling tickets to your wedding are you? It's not criticism just wondering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭itsallaboutme!!


    sorry to hijack the post but i cannot afford to go to two weddings i have been invited to so i have respectivley declined.But im told its the done thing to still send a gift was wondering what people reckon is the "going rate" for that since ive no meal to cover?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    sorry to hijack the post but i cannot afford to go to two weddings i have been invited to so i have respectivley declined.But im told its the done thing to still send a gift was wondering what people reckon is the "going rate" for that since ive no meal to cover?


    Buy a gift like an unusual lamp or a painting from one of those guys on the street and no one will know how much you paid for it :D Especially with art.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭emma82


    You realise it's all optional? You're choosing to have all the extras. Personally I'm getting married in Germany like I said and it's coming in at roughly €3k including honeymoon.



    You are invited as a guest to a wedding. It's not a BYOB party. You're not selling tickets to your wedding are you? It's not criticism just wondering.[/QUOTE]

    Do realise its all optional-but our wedding our choice!! Can afford to pay for Wedding and not doing an Eddie Hobbs on it!

    If I was expecting my guests to travel to Germany I wouldn't be expecting a cash gift from anyone. Would also be planning a different style of wedding, costing less (no offense- really). Would also feel that alot of my friends wouldn't be able to travel at that cost. Don't think our two Weddings can be compared- you wouldn't want ours & I wouldn't want yours.

    Back to original point- Give what you can- if you can't give- don't go!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 MrsC


    I recently got married & the gifts we received varied hugely, some people were overly generous & i was almost embarressed at the amout they gave, others gave very little, some guests gave nothing at all (and its now over 2 months since the wedding so i don't expect anything off them now). It's up to the guest how much they give. It's great to get money cos weddings are expensive & i cut corners and did alot myself but getting married in ireland is not cheap (unless you invite no-one at all) but i have to say the pressent that sticks out the most is a painting we got of our home village from a girl i work with, she drove down to the village took a photo & then painted it herself & its beautiful! it hangs with pride in my hallway & i will always be able to say we got that for our wedding! but in saying that i'm glad we didn't get "housey" presents off everyone as my house would be full of stuff!

    anyway, getting back to the point, most couples gave us about €150, which i would probably give if i went to a wedding. i would be embarressed to giva any less, if i couldn't afford it, i would either not go or do something very special like my friend did for me, but this is only advised if you are actually good at something like painting! try to come up with something original on a budget. whatever u do, dont by a toaster! :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    emma82 wrote: »
    Can afford to pay for Wedding and not doing an Eddie Hobbs on it!

    That's exactly what you are saying. If people don't cover the cost they're not welcome :confused:
    emma82 wrote: »
    If I was expecting my guests to travel to Germany I wouldn't be expecting a cash gift from anyone. Would also be planning a different style of wedding, costing less (no offense- really).

    None taken.I am not expecting a cash or any other type of gift from anyone. But we had priced here for just over 5k for same thing. If I were to have a wedding here I still wouldn't expect people to cover the cost of the wedding. You're exactly right it's your wedding so your choice of how expensive it is, so why would you expect your guests to cover the cost of it? :confused:
    emma82 wrote: »
    Do realise its all optional-but our wedding our choice!!

    So pay for the choices you make and stop expecting everyone else to pay for it :pac:

    Guests =/= paying customer. People give what they can, and when they can. Next you'll be judging birthday presents to see if they cover the cost of a slice of cake.:rolleyes:
    emma82 wrote: »
    Would also feel that alot of my friends wouldn't be able to travel at that cost.

    What has that got to do with anything..... the way you look at things that's their loss. Can't pay don't go, isn't it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    MrsC wrote: »
    but i have to say the pressent that sticks out the most is a painting we got of our home village from a girl i work with, she drove down to the village took a photo & then painted it herself & its beautiful!

    +1. A bit of time, effort and imagination. That sounds like a great gift to get. Certainly beats just chucking a couple of 50's into a card in my book.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭emma82


    WOW!!! Alot of 'off topic' posting here- getting quite personal me thinks! :P


    Each to their own- I'm going to enjoy our wedding- have it planned EXACTLY the way we both want it with the people we both want there! Have cut corners when and where we can.

    People are going to give what they give- be that money or gifts- regardless of what you or anyone else says.

    By the way to those who state they are not expecting guests to give money- would you give it back to them??? :D:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    emma82 wrote: »
    By the way to those who state they are not expecting guests to give money- would you give it back to them??? :D:D

    No. Just told them outright and upfront that we're not looking for anything. Problem solved. If they give they give it. If it's friends tbh I'd be more inclined to give it back yeah, tell them to enjoy themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 686 ✭✭✭bangersandmash


    emma82 wrote: »
    By the way to those who state they are not expecting guests to give money- would you give it back to them??? :D:D
    That's the whole mentality that I object to. Are you planning to base your future gifts on what you got from guests at your wedding? You seem to be assuming that everyone is on the same financial footing and that wedding gifts are some kind of reciprocal agreement.
    emma82 wrote: »
    People are going to give what they give- be that money or gifts- regardless of what you or anyone else says.
    I'm sorry but that translate as "people are going to give what I expect regardless of what you or anyone else says". It's not a pleasant attitude to have. You're hosting what amounts to a party. Many would say it's impolite to invite guests and then expect them to effectively fund it themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered


    emma82 wrote: »
    if you can't give- don't go!

    :eek: Seriously? You mean you'd expect your guests to only go if they could pay to go? I really think that is an awful way to look at it.

    I'd much prefer to have a room full of friends at my wedding than a room full of people who can "afford" to be there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46 itsadeathtrap


    hey Guys

    this is an extremely hot topic myself and my partner are currently planning our wedding, its looking like it will be in or around the 18k mark, we have said between ourselves than we dont want presents but if people wanted to give us something then money in a card would be great. we have our house, we have forks and knifes, cups, glasses, picture frames etc. and after our engagement we have extra picture frames if anyone is looking from them (joking hahaha)....

    the thing is that any wedding we have went to we put in a min of €150 as a couple, more depending on the person (bestfriend, brother, sister etc), myself and my partner are at least hoping that people coming would at least cover the cost of the meal. and closer relatives and friends would be a bit more generous, as we have been with them in the past...

    I really think people who got good money form us on their day should at least should give the same back...... fair as fair....

    am i right or wrong to think like this......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 686 ✭✭✭bangersandmash


    and closer relatives and friends would be a bit more generous, as we have been with them in the past...

    I really think people who got good money form us on their day should at least should give the same back...... fair as fair....

    am i right or wrong to think like this......
    Personally I don't agree this notion of expecting the same back. For me it's not very gracious give a gift with the expectation that you'll be reimbursed for that amount in the near future.

    The above is only personal opinion. However you should be aware that some people's financial circumstances may have changed since those weddings you attended in the past. Someone may have been able to afford to give €X in 2006 but would not longer be able to do so in 2009. It's just something to keep in mind.

    I've even come across some people who complain that they were unfortunate to arrange their wedding during a recession because they won't get the gifts that are "due to them" :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭kavoweb


    i cant make the wedding.....sorry.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    I've even come across some people who complain that they were unfortunate to arrange their wedding during a recession because they won't get the gifts that are "due to them" :mad:


    :pac: That's hilarious. Just goes to show how misguided Irish people were/are. Keeps me entertained no end. Typical.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered


    the thing is that any wedding we have went to we put in a min of €150 as a couple
    I am the same, any wedding I have been to, the minimum I gave was 150 too. I could afford it at the time. I couldn't afford it now. I also wouldn't expect anyone in our group of friends or family to afford it now either.
    I really think people who got good money from us on their day should at least should give the same back...... fair as fair....
    :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46 itsadeathtrap


    recession " :mad:

    Yes i do understand that but my arrangement is that the meal cost should be at least covered and that close friends and family should give more than the normal folk attending the wedding, look its simple if your bestfriend or brother is getting married of course your going to give a little more, its not as if the bride and groom are springing the date on people, people set their dates 12-18 months before the date... so people cant say "hey i cant afford a present, recession recession recession", i real think 100-150€ per couple and 200-250€ for close friends and family,,, is not a lot to ask..... i know this might sound anal but 250 top gift, works out at 20 € a month if given a years notice!!!!!!!!! maybe im wrong but its how i feel.....

    Its not all about the money, myself and my partner have been together 10yrs and are really looking froward to our date.... this is a small issue for us in the bigger scale of our wedding but it is one that is very topical and causes a lot of debate....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭The Davestator


    What is wrong with people - You have to cover the cost of your meal at least.

    You wouldn't even go to your friends house for dinner without bringing a bottle of wine or something.

    you normally get a few months notice for a wedding so put 30/50 euro away each month before it and you wont be under pressure to pay for gift, hotel and beers for the day out of one pay check


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,390 ✭✭✭The Big Red Button


    Saint_Mel wrote: »
    I was talking to a mate about this recently and a wedding he is invited to had a note in with the invitation declaring that gifts to be €200 minimum

    That is shocking! Is this common practice at weddings? I've never heard of it before. I can honestly say, if I received an invitation saying that, I would neither go to the wedding nor give any gift. I wouldn't care if it was a friend or family member or whatever - someone with that sort of materialistic obnoxious attitude is not someone I want in my life.

    Personally I'm getting married abroad so won't be expecting gifts anyways. Perhaps we'll get some anyways, and we'd obviously appreciate them, but we certainly wouldn't expect any. People will be spending enough on travelling to the wedding.

    However if I were getting married at home, and I found out that a friend or family member declined the wedding invitation because they couldn't afford a gift or "to cover the price of their meal", I'd honestly be devastated. The only people I'd invite to my wedding are those I really really want to be there, and I'd hate to think of them missing out - and of me missing out on their company - because of a silly thing like money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 231 ✭✭mandysmithers


    Saving to give a wedding gift!!?? For god sake, I would hate to think that someone coming to my wedding was having to save to give me a present. Obviously, I'd love to be getting money if I was getting married - but that's beside the point - you shouldn't expect a certain amount from your guests. Maybe they need to put that €30/40 a month aside for something else, maybe they're already saving all they can for something more important like a deposit on a house, for example. Plus, some people go to a few wedding a year - you can't be saving money every month for each wedding present!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 686 ✭✭✭bangersandmash


    You wouldn't even go to your friends house for dinner without bringing a bottle of wine or something.
    Of course, you'd bring a gift as a token gesture of appreciation. But the value of that gift would be completely unrelated to the cost of the dinner. What people are talking about here is akin to a friend inviting you for dinner in their house and then afterwards having a whip-around to cover the cost of the ingredients.
    people set their dates 12-18 months before the date... so people cant say "hey i cant afford a present, recession recession recession"
    Are you serious? Some people's lives may have changed considerably over the last 12-18 months. They may have more pressing priorities than friends' wedding gifts.

    I should say that to me the actual figures mentioned here seem entirely reasonable and in some cases even a little low. And I can't abide the attitude of people who view weddings as a freebie where they can treat themselves at the expense of the B&G. But the expectation of some that their guests should fund an extravagant party regardless of their circumstances is equally repellent.

    Have the wedding that you can afford personally. If you get nice gifts from your guests, treat it as a bonus, not a given.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Have the wedding that you can afford personally. If you get nice gifts from your guests, treat it as a bonus, not a given.


    Exactly. Which brings us back to Eddie Hobbs. IMO that is where all this is springing from. People doing the maths, "100 guests x €150 =...... well that's enough to cover x,y and z" and spending far more than they can actually afford on a wedding in the expectation that they can recoup so much from presents, instead of having a wedding they can pay for, without presents if needs be. Lordy if someone put a minimum gift value on an invitation to me I'd make full sure I fell well short tbh, if I bothered to attend at all. It would be an insult and completely rude IMO.

    Next we'll see prices on the menus at the wedding reception, with everyone being told what they can and can't order accordingly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭SeekUp


    Saint_Mel wrote: »
    I was talking to a mate about this recently and a wedding he is invited to had a note in with the invitation declaring that gifts to be €200 minimum

    Regardless of what the minimum was, that's just appalling that they would include that. Printed. Within an invitation. It's just poor manners.
    I really think people who got good money form us on their day should at least should give the same back...... fair as fair....

    I understand what you're saying . . . but it's not a transaction or an exchange, it's a gift. An optional gift at that. Some people are going to be more generous, depending on their means, other people will give what they can, and other people will just be stingy. Still, I'd hope that you gave the monetary gifts because you wanted to get the couple something nice and wish them well, not just so you could receive the same from them in return. I mean, if that's the case, why would anyone give anything at all? Everyone would just keep their money and call it a day!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,423 ✭✭✭tinkerbell


    What is wrong with people - You have to cover the cost of your meal at least.

    You wouldn't even go to your friends house for dinner without bringing a bottle of wine or something.

    you normally get a few months notice for a wedding so put 30/50 euro away each month before it and you wont be under pressure to pay for gift, hotel and beers for the day out of one pay check

    Saving for a wedding present is crazy in this day and age. €30/€50 a month these days can be a lot for people and if you actually have to save that much a month so you can give a wedding present, then you can't afford the wedding present anyway.

    It's ridiculous that people expect wedding presents and put minimums on the invites n such. I would never expect a present if I was getting married. People can just be totally selfish.

    And you don't HAVE to cover the cost of your meal. You are being invited because presumably the couple WANT you there. If you are assumed to cover the cost, then don't bother going. It's just insulting. If you are getting married, don't invite those who you can't afford to pay for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    And I can't abide the attitude of people who view weddings as a freebie where they can treat themselves at the expense of the B&G.

    What exactly would they be viewing as a freebie? Lets be honest, most wedding meals are distinctly sub-par, especially considering what is being charged for them. I've never had a wedding meal of a quality that I'd have been happy to pay for in a restaurant. I've never been to a wedding where the band or dj is one that I would have paid to see on a night out. I don't really enjoy going to church even if there is lovely flowers in the place and a talented vocalist. The only wedding I've been to where the drinks were laid on was mine.

    I do like spending time with my friends and family. And I enjoy celebrating the important events in the lives of the people I care about. But there is absolutely nothing in a wedding that I would possibly consider a "freebie" unless poor quality food and "music for everyone" really floats your boat.

    At an awful lot of weddings nowadays the cost to the guest to attend can be more than the cost to the B&G of having them attend. Even before you take the cost of the gift into account. I don't begrudge the money I spend on attending a wedding, though there have been times when the money was difficult to find. But I am not paying for someone else's wedding. The cost of the wedding they chose is not my responsibility. I will give them a gift as I want to give them a gift and base what I give them on a mixture of what I can afford and what they mean to me. Equally, if I can't attend the wedding I will not downgrade my gift based on the fact that they aren't paying for my dinner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭tatli_lokma


    iguana wrote: »
    What exactly would they be viewing as a freebie? Lets be honest, most wedding meals are distinctly sub-par, especially considering what is being charged for them. I've never had a wedding meal of a quality that I'd have been happy to pay for in a restaurant. I've never been to a wedding where the band or dj is one that I would have paid to see on a night out. I don't really enjoy going to church even if there is lovely flowers in the place and a talented vocalist. The only wedding I've been to where the drinks were laid on was mine.

    well in fairness I would hope that given the fact that most people are finally getting a bit of cop on in relation to these things that people are not still paying over the odds for crap food. Honestly, I'm not just saying this, but the food at our wedding was superb, and absolutely everyone commented on how fantastic and high quality it was. Our per head price for the package was well under €50. I hope that now people are more careful with their money they are sourcing better bargains and being more decerning about where and on what they spend their money.


    Looking back after reading these comments, perhaps I should have asked people to give bigger presents due to the quality of the meal and DJ! then again, perhaps I should have given them all a minimum €10 refund as my meal was less than €50!! ;)
    iguana wrote: »
    though there have been times when the money was difficult to find. But I am not paying for someone else's wedding. The cost of the wedding they chose is not my responsibility. I will give them a gift as I want to give them a gift and base what I give them on a mixture of what I can afford and what they mean to me. Equally, if I can't attend the wedding I will not downgrade my gift based on the fact that they aren't paying for my dinner.

    +1

    some people gave overly generously to us, and one person who would normally be very flush, gave nowt. Do I regret inviting them? not at all, because my motivation for inviting them was not to gain financially from their attendance.

    Also some people are saying well I gave x person z amount for their wedding so they should give the same!!!! personally I have better things to do than keep a running balance sheet of who I gave what to. Do these people also keep a note of birthday presents they gave? So what are we saying? is there some 'calculation formula' we can develop which offsets the dinner against the price to the guest to attend? Mary had to get a babysitter and spend more on petrol so she should give less? but Joan is single and lives nearby so she should give more. Are the kids to hand over their pocket money to pay for their nuggests and chips???

    I find thiss 'expectation' of a minimum amount vulgar and rude.

    I got a frame which I don't like, as its not my personal taste, but it is obviously expensive. Perhaps I should return it to the giver and ask them to get a refund and send me the cash instead? Or maybe I should ask the lovely lady who gave me a beautiful keepsake box to subsidise it by a few quid, as it obviously didn't cost the same as her dinner? People gave us what they could afford and we appreciate each gift equally - we dont think more of some over others based on what they gave us.

    Give what you can afford. And accept any gift graciously. To do anything else is just bizarre!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    Yes i do understand that but my arrangement is that the meal cost should be at least covered

    I have three weddings (and hens) this summer and they've totally cleaned me out. But does that mean that for the friend that chose the swanky five star hotel with the expensive meal that I have to give her more 'to cover the cost' than my friends that chose the average bog standard Irish hotel which was affordable to them? They chose to have the wedding in an expensive hotel, I don't see why my gift should have to cover the cost of extra expense
    and that close friends and family should give more than the normal folk attending the wedding, look its simple if your bestfriend or brother is getting married of course your going to give a little more, its not as if the bride and groom are springing the date on people, people set their dates 12-18 months before the date... so people cant say "hey i cant afford a present, recession recession recession", i real think 100-150€ per couple and 200-250€ for close friends and family,,, is not a lot to ask..... i know this might sound anal but 250 top gift, works out at 20 € a month if given a years notice!!!!!!!!! maybe im wrong but its how i feel.....

    Actually it is a lot to ask. I've known about each of these weddings at least a year in advance, but do you think for one minute I was saving €20 a week/month for a wedding gift fund? Get real, I have a mortgage, bills to pay and wedding gifts are way down the bottom on my list of priorities. You may also want to factor in that there's accommodation, an outfit for the day, shoes, accessories, hairdresser, transport cost if it's not local, money for drink for the day, taxis, babysitters for those with children, it doesn't just stop at the gift.

    I have, like many people in this country less money to spend this summer than I did last summer, and €150 goes a long way to paying a few bills for me every month, so yes it is a lot of money and I will give what I can afford.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46 itsadeathtrap


    I have three weddings (and hens) this summer and they've totally cleaned me out.

    I have a mortgage, bills to pay and wedding gifts are way down the bottom on my list of priorities. You may also want to factor in that there's accommodation, an outfit for the day, shoes, accessories, hairdresser, transport cost if it's not local, money for drink for the day, taxis, babysitters for those with children, it doesn't just stop at the gift.

    I have, like many people in this country less money to spend this summer than I did last summer, and €150 goes a long way to paying a few bills for me every month, so yes it is a lot of money and I will give what I can afford.

    Bullcrap

    Look everybody has these expenses and out goings.... If times are hard and funds are tight and im only palie palie with the bride or groom then just say no too the invite. No big deal....

    but if someone came to my wedding and gave me X amount and i was invited to his/her's wedding at later date then i would feel obliged only to return the gesture they show onto us on our day...

    people spend 100€s on fags, boose etc every month, im not saying everyone should give all these things up but keep everything in perspective, if a very close friend or sibling was getting married then i would like to think that they meant a little bit more to me on their special day.... its not everyday your best mate or brother/sister get married.... make an effort for godsake, and stop BITCHING about presents for weddings..... If i with my partner were going to a work mates or some i was friends with, wedding then a standard 100€ in a card is the min i would put in, i would feel embarressed if there was anything else in it.... and as i have said for those extra special people a little bit more..........................

    I do think people are forgetting about the bride & groom, it is their day after all... and people are really saving hard for their day, im planning my wedding at the mo and the money form guests is the last thing on our mind...

    Itsadeathtrap says relax......... :):):)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    I do think people are forgetting about the bride & groom, it is their day after all... and people are really saving hard for their day, im planning my wedding at the mo and the money form guests is the last thing on our mind...

    You're right. So where does money come into it? Well it seems to be playing a lot more on your mind than on other people's here. I don't know about you but I would rather have my friends and family there regardless of what gift they give (if any - because in my case I made clear we weren't looking for gifts).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46 itsadeathtrap


    prinz wrote: »
    You're right. So where does money come into it? Well it seems to be playing a lot more on your mind than on other people's here. I don't know about you but I would rather have my friends and family there regardless of what gift they give (if any - because in my case I made clear we weren't looking for gifts).


    Hello this is a forum about how much to give...........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    People take it easy and keep it civil. I don't want to have to start handing out bannings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,397 ✭✭✭✭rainbowtrout


    Bullcrap

    Look everybody has these expenses and out goings.... If times are hard and funds are tight and im only palie palie with the bride or groom then just say no too the invite. No big deal....


    And I think most people would do the same in that position, however these are three good friends of mine, and I want to go to their weddings, actually I've been to two of them already, number three is next week.
    people spend 100€s on fags, boose etc every month, im not saying everyone should give all these things up but keep everything in perspective, if a very close friend or sibling was getting married then i would like to think that they meant a little bit more to me on their special day.... its not everyday your best mate or brother/sister get married.... make an effort for godsake, and stop BITCHING about presents for weddings..... If i with my partner were going to a work mates or some i was friends with, wedding then a standard 100€ in a card is the min i would put in, i would feel embarressed if there was anything else in it.... and as i have said for those extra special people a little bit more..........................

    I do think people are forgetting about the bride & groom, it is their day after all... and people are really saving hard for their day, im planning my wedding at the mo and the money form guests is the last thing on our mind...

    I honestly think you're missing the point, I don't smoke, I drink very little, what I am earning at the moment is covering mortgage and bills, there is very little left over for anything extra at the moment, I'm not going on a holiday this summer, not even a weekend away in Ireland. To give a decent wedding present to each of my friends means I have to put basics like food and petrol on my credit card. Would you prefer that the people coming to your wedding put themselves in debt to give what you thought was an acceptable gift, or would you prefer they gave a smaller gift and not have them worry how they were going to pay the bills next month?

    You said money is the last thing your mind but appears to be one of the most important things to you. You're probably quite caught up in your wedding plans at the moment, but I think from my experience that while people enjoy the day out at a wedding, that they groan when they see the invite come through the door because they know the expense the whole day out will entail.. and no you can't say no to every invite, especially if they are close friends or family. Your wedding day is possibly the most important thing in your life at the moment, but it's not the most important thing in the lives of most of your guests, they may not be as financially secure as you. Will you think any less of any of your guests that give less than €100 - the amount that you think is the minimum that is acceptable to give?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Hello this is a forum about how much to give...........


    And in my book it's ok not to give anything if you don't have it. :confused:. The issues I have is when people say you must give €x amount or you shouldn't bother going to the wedding at all...... that's just ridiculous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,266 ✭✭✭MysticalSoul


    I think the "expected" amount came out of days gone by, when the bride used to have a dowry, and then presents were given to help the bride and groom set up home, whereas nowadays most people already have their own place when they get married, so don't have a need for kettles, irons etc, and it is just another result of the celtic tiger. Seeing as cost of living has gone down, the expected gift value should too :p.

    IMHO the purpose of a wedding is to share the day with family and friends, and not about what gift you receive as a result.

    I am shocked at the idea of putting no gifts for less than €200 :eek:. For instance, I am single, and am on only a little above minimum wage (office work), so €200 would not be feasible for me, not with bills etc to pay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    The first wedding I ever heard of where cash was asked for instead of gifts was when the couple lived abroad and wouldn't have been able to take the gifts home with them. - It would have cost them a fortune in luggage fees. They suggested that everyone put cash in a plain envelope and they would open them all together at some other point so they wouldn't know who gave what. That way nobody would feel under pressure to give a particular amount and could just give what they could afford/felt like. I think that's a pretty good way of doing it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46 itsadeathtrap


    guests that give less than €100 - the amount that you think is the minimum that is acceptable to give?

    this amount would be per couple, 50€ i feel nowadays is a lot, but jez its not everyday you go to a wedding is it.... and some people are saying that why should they pay of someone else wedding, sorry guys a wedding costs a lot more than 100€ per couple....

    look everyone has their own opinion on this, this is mine. i think i am allowed have this.... no?

    i think i have said my bit on this, dont need anymore argo from people on here..... peace an love :P:D:) p.s ye are all invited to my wedding..... x


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    sorry guys a wedding costs a lot more than 100€ per couple....

    Mine didn't. Mine cost a fair bit less than €100 per couple in attendance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,546 ✭✭✭Enii


    this amount would be per couple, 50€ i feel nowadays is a lot, but jez its not everyday you go to a wedding is it.... and some people are saying that why should they pay of someone else wedding, sorry guys a wedding costs a lot more than 100€ per couple....

    look everyone has their own opinion on this, this is mine. i think i am allowed have this.... no?

    i think i have said my bit on this, dont need anymore argo from people on here..... peace an love :P:D:) p.s ye are all invited to my wedding..... x

    It is up to the bride and groom to pay for the wedding. End of story.

    Guests are guests. They have been invited by the B&G to enjoy the wedding that is being put on for the guests to celebrate the day. They should not be invited in order to fund the event!!!!!!!!

    Guests being expected to cover the cost of the wedding is bang out of order.

    100 euro from a couple is a very generous gift in my opinion.


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