Bono is a Wanker

pokerface_me

Man i've had enough of this prick preaching to us, when you start paying TAX here you prick, then you can have your say. Rant over.

galwayrush

If you don't like him, just ignore him,
As for the Tax situation, he didn't make the rules and he can live anywhere he wants to for whatever reason if he can afford to.:cool:

eddiehead

Meh, I don't like him but I'm sick of people giving out about him, he's such an easy target

Gary ITR

pokerface_me wrote: »

Man i've had enough of this prick preaching to us, when you start paying TAX here you prick, then you can have your say. Rant over.

He does pay tax

TheZohanS

pokerface_me wrote: »

when you start paying TAX here you prick, then you can have your say. Rant over.

What's his username?

karlog

Its old news that hes a wanker

thomond2006

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Dudess

If I could live in another country to avoid paying taxes, I would. I don't see why he should live in Ireland just because he's Irish.

Zonda999

Here's my €0.02. In any circumstances in life, we strive to be careful with our money. But when Bono spends so much time asking governments to give more to developing nations, despite the fact governments main source of income is tax, i guess you could indeed call him a wanker:rolleyes:

In before the lock btw(:D), already enough bitching about this in that other U2 thread

pokerface_me

eddiehead wrote: »

Meh, I don't like him but I'm sick of people giving out about him, he's such an easy target

Was just reading an article with him talking about our economy, and how he'd do it, makes me sick to think that him and his buddies contribute nothing of their earnings to our economy. Yet he wants to save the world.

TheZohanS

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God it's like the DaVinci code...what does it mean...

pokerface_me

Dudess wrote: »

If I could live in another country to avoid paying taxes, I would. I don't see why he should live in Ireland just because he's Irish.

Exactly my thoughts, if he has no interest in contributing here, why should he be let live here TAXFREE.

galwayrush

pokerface_me wrote: »

Was just reading an article with him talking about our economy, and how he'd do it, makes me sick to think that him and his buddies contribute nothing of their earnings to our economy. Yet he wants to save the world.

Our economy got a major shot in the arm after last weekends concerts, the spending power of 240,000 people contributed a lot of money to the state coffers.

ODS

An article on some of his lesser-known interests that was in Phoenix about two years ago:

From PHOENIX MAGAZINE, 2007:

SIR BONO'S PROFIT FROM WARGAMES

WHEN NOT saving the world or relocating companies off-shore, Bono KBE (Knight Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire) has been busy recently in making interesting investments – with one such gambit being into a software firm which specialises in "extremely realistic videos to be used as training games for the US military".

The recently elevated knight has become part owner in Elevation Partners – a massive US-based investments company set up in 2005 where, along with five other non-U2 partners, Sir Bono has a one sixth partnership. But, regrettably the activities of this and related companies don't always seem to match the world-saving rhetoric of Hewson's finer words.

Only last August Elevation bought a substantial stake into Forbes Media, publisher of Forbes Magazine, which is responsible for printing various "Top 100" type lists – the best known being that of billionaires. Editor-in-chief Malcolm 'Steve' Forbes is, of course, well- known for his "traditional" US Republican agenda. Featuring on a variety of platforms such as his own TV show, "Forbes on Fox", Steve is known for being against gun control, pro death penalty, opposing pollution control, and a world perspective that promotes, as he succinctly puts it himself, a "US not UN Foreign Policy".

Happily the part acquisition of Forbes ran smoothly, with Elevation partner, Roger McNamee, telling the NYT that Bono "was attracted to the magazine because it has a 'point of view,' adding that Bono 'drove this part of the discussion and likes the fact that there has been a consistent philosophy throughout its history'".

However the really cool move by Elevation is over on the US west coast, where it invested a reported $300 million in 2005 on a company called Pandemic/Bioware Studios. As reported in the Boston Globe, Pandemic is currently preparing to launch a product called 'Mercenaries 2: World in Flames, "a violent video game in which players become hired mercenaries who invade Venezuela, where a tyrant has tampered with the country's oil supply" – in other words the opportunity to re-run the CIA's failed 2001 coup attempt in cyberspace, except this time there can be victory.

Not surprisingly, this has not impressed a number of parties including the Venezuela Solidarity Network and the Boston Bolivarian Network, who last July first wrote to Bono to protest.

Helpfully Venezuela Network issued a release stating "Pandemic is a sub-contractor for the US army and the CIA funded Institute for Creative technologies which uses Hollywood techniques to mount war in California's high dessert in order to conduct military training. Pandemic's target market is young men of military recruitment age and indeed this is not Pandemic's first military adventure. Micro Soft NBC reported that the videogame Full Spectrum Warrior was created through the Institute for Creative Technologies in Marina Del Rey, California, a $45 million endeavor formed by the Army five years ago to connect academics with local entertainment and video game industries. The institute subcontracted work to Los Angeles based Pandemic Studios."

Despite the fuss, 10 months on, with the product due out this autumn, there's still no word from the new KBE about the ethical criticisms of his investments. This hasn't stopped a head of steam building up in the meanwhile. One petitioning letter by US clerics Reverend David A Bos, Rabbi Michael Lerner, and Pax Christi USA Ambassador for Peace, Fr. Joe Nangle OFM, has secured further signatures from the US Fellowship for Reconciliation and other religious organizations.

Apparently he's since sold on the shares - at a profit :rolleyes:

jumpguy

galwayrush wrote: »

Our economy got a major shot in the arm after last weekends concerts, the spending power of 240,000 people contributed a lot of money to the state coffers.

+1 ATM Bono has brought himself up abit in my books.

Shellie13

Ah sure look at how much we all give out about taxes...
If we were all that wealthy wouldn't we all do what he's doing?!

His "ranting" may come across as annoying at times yet if Celebs don't use their fame to highlight issues they may simply be forgotten... how often are the "small" "boring" "everyday" injustices around the world highlighted. They are old news and unsexy to the media - so unless the message is conveyed in the form of a rant from a Celebrity there is a danger it may totally be lost...

orourkeda

Dudess wrote: »

If I could live in another country to avoid paying taxes, I would. I don't see why he should live in Ireland just because he's Irish.

Maybe he should f*ck off as far away as he possibly can

gurramok

Dudess wrote: »

If I could live in another country to avoid paying taxes, I would. I don't see why he should live in Ireland just because he's Irish.

He shouldn't preach to the Irish about giving money from the coffers when he himself deliberately moved his earnings abroad to avoid taxes in which a proportion give money for his cause.

Thats the crux of the issue with U2.

pokerface_me

galwayrush wrote: »

Our economy got a major shot in the arm after last weekends concerts, the spending power of 240,000 people contributed a lot of money to the state coffers.

Don't give me that tripe, he also earned megabucks TAXFREE from these concerts.

davyjose

galwayrush wrote: »

Our economy got a major shot in the arm after last weekends concerts, the spending power of 240,000 people contributed a lot of money to the state coffers.

Wow, how unselfish of U2 :rolleyes:

orourkeda

Shellie13 wrote: »

Ah sure look at how much we all give out about taxes...
If we were all that wealthy wouldn't we all do what he's doing?!

His "ranting" may come across as annoying at times yet if Celebs don't use their fame to highlight issues they may simply be forgotten... how often are the "small" "boring" "everyday" injustices around the world highlighted. They are old news and unsexy to the media - so unless the message is conveyed in the form of a rant from a Celebrity there is a danger it may totally be lost...

I would intentionally ignore it because Bono highlighted it.

orourkeda

gurramok wrote: »

He shouldn't preach to the Irish about giving money from the coffers when he himself deliberately moved his earnings abroad to avoid taxes in which a proportion give money for his cause.

Thats the crux of the issue with U2.

Hypocrisy is the word you're looking for.

MizzLolly

orourkeda wrote: »

I would intentionally ignore it because Bono highlighted it.

Are you 12?

Zonda999

galwayrush wrote: »

Our economy got a major shot in the arm after last weekends concerts, the spending power of 240,000 people contributed a lot of money to the state coffers.

Somehow, i doubt one of the reasons behind the concerts was the economic benefit to our country:rolleyes:

pokerface_me

He's out there looking for funds for Africa and the likes and although it is tragic what happens out in these continents, Charity starts at HOME mr u2. Take a look around this Country we have people living below the poverty line and probably starving, nobody his helping them. And mr U ****in 2 wants us to send our money to Africa, get a grip man and start giving your own people a dig out.

davyjose

galwayrush wrote: »

If you don't like him, just ignore him,
As for the Tax situation, he didn't make the rules and he can live anywhere he wants to for whatever reason if he can afford to.:cool:

I agree, but he can f*ck off with his "I'm Irish and proud" shpiel, while doing so. He can f*ck off in his tax exile and take his nose out of the hellish goings-on in his former country. He can f*ck off with his croke park gigs, and his preachy bullsh!t stage-speeches.

He's an easy target cos he makes himself one - he's a hypocritical, two-faced, media whore.

galwayrush

Zonda999 wrote: »

Somehow, i doubt one of the reasons behind the concerts was the economic benefit to our country:rolleyes:

I am not a U2 fan, Bono can be a pain at times, but so what if the band made a fortune, no one was forced to go to their concerts and buy their albums and make them rich. Obviously it wasn't the reason why the concerts were held, but the weekend did put a lot of money back into the state.

pokerface_me

galwayrush wrote: »

I am not a U2 fan, Bono can be a pain at times, but so what if the band made a fortune, no one was forced to go to their concerts and buy their albums and make them rich. Obviously it wasn't the reason why the concerts were held, but the weekend did put a lot of money back into the state.

Who put him where he is today?????? The people of Ireland my good man, talk about forgetting your roots.

davyjose

galwayrush wrote: »

I am not a U2 fan, Bono can be a pain at times, but so what if the band made a fortune, no one was forced to go to their concerts and buy their albums and make them rich. Obviously it wasn't the reason why the concerts were held, but the weekend did put a lot of money back into the state.

You're missing the point - Bono went out of his way to take his money out of the state. That he made millions last weekend, and happened to help things along in doing so, is purely circumstantial.

I'm serious though, he can do what he likes, but shut the f*ck up when it comes to talking about this country's affairs - he has suspended his right to do so, with so many struggling.

galwayrush

pokerface_me wrote: »

Who put him where he is today?????? The people of Ireland my good man, talk about forgetting your roots.

I think breaking into the American market made U2 most of their money.;)
145 million est album sales worldwide, :cool:

davyjose

galwayrush wrote: »

I think breaking into the American market made U2 most of their money.;)
145 million est album sales worldwide, :cool:

You're right. Now they can keep him.

Loomis

Bono want the biddy?

Havermeyer

Onkle wrote: »

He does pay tax

He's still cúnt.

However, the whole bono bashing is getting a bit old.

Next victim..............

jumpguy

pokerface_me wrote: »

Don't give me that tripe, he also earned megabucks TAXFREE from these concerts.

Yeah, but the amount of revenue local business', hotels, the GAA and the government in that subsequent tax contributed much more than just what tax does. Wake up, that concert was a great thing for the city and boosted it's image internationally too.

pokerface_me

galwayrush wrote: »

I think breaking into the American market made U2 most of their money.;)
145 million est album sales worldwide, :cool:

Man go to bed will ya......if the people of Ireland didn't take to them years ago, they hardly would have broke America, they wouldn't have been able to afford the plane ticket.

All that bull aside the fact is you NEVER TURN YOUR BACK ON YOUR OWN.

bug

The real issue with Bono IMO is that he does not prove himself to be of any further intelligence than the Arts. i.e. music, and that being open to personal opinion.

Unlike other notable people in the Arts, Bono has been seen to liase with the likes of Blair, and other political figures, and possibly thinks as a result of that he actually has something to say, which, when you actually listen to him being interviewed he hasn't IMO.

I personally think people see this and resent anything else that he does, i.e. taxes etc. but while most musicians go unscathed for the same behaviour-
An empty vessel that makes noises outside of his/her realm rather than just attracting people to topics that they usually wouldn't notice... attracts a certain amount of resentment.

pokerface_me

jumpguy wrote: »

Yeah, but the amount of revenue local business', hotels, the GAA and the government in that subsequent tax contributed much more than just what tax does. Wake up, that concert was a great thing for the city and boosted it's image internationally too.

My footie team in Tallaght has given the economy a boost too, not just once every couple of years, every week my good friend. And they pay their TAXES.

Your point been what??

jayteecork

What fúcking annoys me is when he shows up to meet dignitaries in a formal situation wearing his fúcking wraparound purple shades and his fúcking shirt hanging out.

It's like, "I'm Bono, I don't have to wear formal garb, it's beneath me"

Everyone else is there wearing a tuxedo and he's arsing around looking like a twat with his awful shades and pink shirt/Barnardo's jacket.

And I don't know if anyone has mentioned this already, but I'm sure he doesn't pay tax

orourkeda

pokerface_me wrote: »

Man go to bed will ya......if the people of Ireland didn't take to them years ago, they hardly would have broke America, they wouldn't have been able to afford the plane ticket.

All that bull aside the fact is you NEVER TURN YOUR BACK ON YOUR OWN.

Why not?

davyjose

pokerface_me wrote: »

All that bull aside the fact is you NEVER TURN YOUR BACK ON YOUR OWN.

Not just that, but he still acts like he hasn't done that. he still spouts his, "I'm an oul dub" sh!te.
The guy grinds my gears like no other. I'd prefer a million Paris Hiltons to this gimp.

Dudess

pokerface_me wrote: »

Charity starts at HOME mr u2.

Why does it? I'd have thought it begins where it's most needed - and by god, it's far more needed in certain other countries besides Ireland.

pokerface_me wrote: »

the fact is you NEVER TURN YOUR BACK ON YOUR OWN.

Why is it a "fact"?

Although people who drone "typical Irish begrudgery" every time someone criticise U2/Bono... are *****.

pokerface_me

orourkeda wrote: »

Why not?

A little thing called LOYALITY and because its the DECENT thing to do.

davyjose

orourkeda wrote: »

Why not?

You're right.

Hey your grandmother left her purse unattended ........

orourkeda

pokerface_me wrote: »

My footie team in Tallaght has given the economy a boost too, not just once every couple of years, every week my good friend. And they pay their TAXES.

Your point been what??

I agree. People are spending their own money here. In the grand scheme of things this isnt even chicken feed

jumpguy

pokerface_me wrote: »

My footie team in Tallaght has given the economy a boost too, not just once every couple of years, every week my good friend. And they pay their TAXES.

Your point been what??

Why're you so determined to hate U2? They're the only thing that gives us a better image internationally at the moment. When people think of U2 and Ireland our drink culture, violent past and disgraceful economic management don't come to mind.
The concert did even more, it delighted everyone I know that went to see it, boosted Dublin's international image, increased tourism which inevitably increased business revenue in the area and as such tax.

Cop on please and stop with your little determined mantra. You know that concert did far, far more good than harm and U2 overall have done more good than harm. Bono might appear to be crazy, but he's an entertainer and businessman and at the end of the day, far from retarded.

orourkeda

pokerface_me wrote: »

A little thing called LOYALITY and because its the DECENT thing to do.

Loyalty me arse. I've never even met bono and you expect loyalty to him. Get a grip

g5fd6ow0hseima

Its gone to the stage where those who dont think he is a **** are recieved with dropped jaws.

Only stupid yanks who think leprechauns exist keep him propped up on his pedestal. Oh - and people with no taste in music:)

pokerface_me

Dudess wrote: »

Why does it? I'd have thought it begins where it's most needed - and by god, it's far more needed in certain other countries besides Ireland.

Why is it a "fact"?

Although people who drone "typical Irish begrudgery" every time someone criticise U2/Bono... are *****.

Well to honest Dudess i never bit the hand that fed me, and if that hand ever needs me i will be there no questions asked.

Dudess

Maybe you have bitten the hand that feeds you.

orourkeda wrote: »

Loyalty me arse. I've never even met bono and you expect loyalty to him. Get a grip

The OP is actually objecting to Bono.

But why does Bono have to be "loyal" to Ireland OP?

orourkeda

davyjose wrote: »

You're right.

Hey your grandmother left her purse unattended ........

Bono's not my own. He's a randomer.

davyjose

orourkeda wrote: »

Loyalty me arse. I've never even met bono and you expect loyalty to him. Get a grip

I expect him to shut his hole whenever he acts like some kind of preacher to the people of this nation. he made his bed. Yeah, he played a good gig, fair play, now f*ck off to your own country and leave us Irish to clear up our own mess.