EA claims we're british?

Seifer

Joystiq summary and the original article
Well fúck them tbh.

animaX

Luckily I gave up on Electronic Arse long ago

super_furry

animaX wrote: »

Luckily I gave up on Electronic Arse long ago

Why? Over the last two years they've published some of the best games on the market.

Anyway, that article is a load of crap, check out my BF1943 profile page here - http://www.battlefield1943.com/soldier/profile/169829571/360

Seifer

super_furry wrote: »

Why? Over the last two years they've published some of the best games on the market.

Anyway, that article is a load of crap, check out my BF1943 profile page here - http://www.battlefield1943.com/soldier/profile/169829571/360

Would you say the part about Northern Ireland is true? A lot less galling but something they could easily avoid if they wanted to.

anonymous_joe

Seems a bit silly really.

For minimal effort you could avoid something that offers a maximum in potential bad PR.

There really is such a thing as bad publicity, and this could be a shining example thereof.

Silverfish

From what I gather, it's only affecting NI players, ROI players can select the Irish flag, but NI players should be able to select either the British flag or the ROI flag, but can't.

Bit lousy of EA. If enough people complain they may fix it with one of their wonderful patches.

super_furry

Well I'd suggest it's either one of two things, the flag is chosen on the basis of your IP address or on what nationality you have your Xbox Live or PSN account set up. I don't remember ever been asked to pick a nationality in BF1943, so I reckon it's automated on that basis.

Cunny-Funt

I'm confused, is this about people in Ireland being labeled with
the British flag? If so, its ground to be pretty annoyed , just as bad as labelling France with the German flag etc etc.

However if its Northern Ireland then its understandable and not surprising at all

Silverfish

Cunny-Funt wrote: »

However if its Northern Ireland then its understandable and not surprising at all

Not reeeeaaaallly.... they should be allowed to choose which, not slapped with one.

dlofnep

Cunny-Funt wrote: »

However if its Northern Ireland then its understandable and not surprising at all

No, because the people in the North are afforded the right to be regarded as Irish or British through the GFA.

Cunny-Funt

Yeah but they've been gaming online for awhile surely they must be used to it. A lot of games show flags by IP address and thus people in NI will get a British flag which is not inaccurate.

Theres a huge difference there between that and people from IRELAND showing as being from the UK. If that was happening, I'd be very pissed off.

But people from NI been given the UK flag is seriously not surprising at all.

Stephen

According to the article a guy in Dublin is getting the British flag. Why won't they just let people pick their country when they sign up?

Seifer

Stephen wrote: »

According to the article a guy in Dublin is getting the British flag. Why won't they just let people pick their country when they sign up?

That seems to be largely untrue from the feedback here though. Maybe he is just a unique case for whatever reason.
Also according to the article, there is a thread on the EA BF1943 forums about it but I couldn't see it anywhere.

ScumLord

Seifer wrote: »

That seems to be largely untrue from the feedback here though. Maybe he is just a unique case for whatever reason.
Also according to the article, there is thread on the EA BF1943 forums about it but I couldn't see it anywhere.

I wonder was he using a proxy at any stage that could throw it off. The lads up North would surely have grounds to sue if it's their right under law to pick a side.

Mossy Monk

Irish flag for me too.

nix

super_furry wrote: »

Why? Over the last two years they've published some of the best games on the market.

Anyway, that article is a load of crap, check out my BF1943 profile page here - http://www.battlefield1943.com/soldier/profile/169829571/360

What games would these be then? To my knowledge all EA is good for is releasing incomplete games and ripping off their customers.

Take battlefield for example, they even addmitted to ripping off their customers with this franchise. Its a piece of **** game and i hope its not on your list of best games of the last 2 years

CoD4 is also an overrated game, its for people who have no skill in other fps games and require artillery and a chopper they cant control to do all the work.

Fuck EA, Fuck them up their stupid asses.

noodler

nix wrote: »

What games would these be then? To my knowledge all EA is good for is releasing incomplete games and ripping off their customers.

Take battlefield for example, they even addmitted to ripping off their customers with this franchise. Its a piece of **** game and i hope its not on your list of best games of the last 2 years

CoD4 is also an overrated game, its for people who have no skill in other fps games and require artillery and a chopper they cant control to do all the work.

Fuck EA, Fuck them up their stupid asses.

Didn't even knpow EA published COD4....

BF1943 is excellent, Dead Space I think EA did too and also Mirror's edge. New Fifa was critically preferred to pes.

super_furry

Well in the last two years they've published among others; The Orange Box, Crysis, Burnout Paradise, Battlefield: Bad Company, FIFA 09, Dead Space, Mirrors Edge and both Skate games. All quality games.

Seifer

noodler wrote: »

Didn't even knpow EA published COD4....

They don't, Activision does.

super_furry wrote:

Well in the last two years they've published among others; The Orange Box

According to wiki they're distributors and not publishers and in reality EA have nothing at all to do with the magic that is the Orange Box.

Captain Chaos

There is a big difference between publishing and developing games. Dead Space was made by a division of EA like FIFA, while Mirrors Edge and the others list are not, EA just pay to publish the games.

It's usually EA's fault for rushing developers that results in poor unfinished games. Its down to pure greed and profits for the shareholders.

super_furry

They published both console versions and actually created the PS3 version.

super_furry

To be honest I think that's an outdated view of EA. The genuinely seem to have changed their corporate culture since the whole EA Spouse thing and are more willing to take risks on new and untested titles like Dead Space, Mirrors Edge and Brutal Legend.

Retr0gamer

All I have to add is this:



EA are forgiven a whole lot by me for publishing soukyugurentai.

Cuddlesworth

Retr0gamer wrote: »

All I have to add is this:



EA are forgiven a whole lot by me for publishing soukyugurentai.

Looks like a bad hentai to me....

gizmo

Captain Chaos wrote: »

There is a big difference between publishing and developing games. Dead Space was made by a division of EA like FIFA, while Mirrors Edge and the others list are not, EA just pay to publish the games.

It's usually EA's fault for rushing developers that results in poor unfinished games. Its down to pure greed and profits for the shareholders.

Incorrect, DICE, the developers of Battlefield are a wholly owned EA company, therefore there is technically no difference between them, Visceral Games (formerly EA Redwood Shores and the developers of Dead Space) and Criterion (developers of the Burnout franchise).

As for the company themselves, everyone knows Activision are the new EA. Their releases over the last while have seen the company embracing new IP and picking up titles which have been abandoned by other publishers, all a far cry from Bobby Kotick's $100m franchise bull****.

Retr0gamer

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Looks like a bad hentai to me....

The box art is ****e but it's one of the best shoot'em ups ever made.

Fnz

It's a shame that now EA is losing out to Activision/Blizzard who seem to have adopted EA's old methods. Mirror's Edge and Dead Space under-performing iirc.

Hopefully the pressure from shareholders to regress to the, more successful, old formula isn't too great.

I wonder how Henry Hatsworth performed for them?

nix

Fnz wrote: »

It's a shame that now EA is losing out to Activision/Blizzard who seem to have adopted EA's old methods. Mirror's Edge and Dead Space under-performing iirc.

Hopefully the pressure from shareholders to regress to the, more successful, old formula isn't too great.

I wonder how Henry Hatsworth performed for them?

How have blizz adopted this? They spend more time on their games than any other company and always deliver a satisfactory and finished game. Look how long SC2 is taking to make, and it will blow us away

Bubs101

Silverfish wrote: »

Not reeeeaaaallly.... they should be allowed to choose which, not slapped with one.

Say what?? everybody is slapped with a nationality, nobody chooses. Why should they get a choice, the North is british and has been for 209 years.

Seifer

nix wrote: »

How have blizz adopted this? They spend more time on their games than any other company and always deliver a satisfactory and finished game. Look how long SC2 is taking to make, and it will blow us away

Once you buy all three parts.
None of which will have lan play.

And they're also being **** with CoD:MW2 by raising the price because they know people will pay it.

Fnz

nix wrote: »

How have blizz adopted this? They spend more time on their games than any other company and always deliver a satisfactory and finished game. Look how long SC2 is taking to make, and it will blow us away

Activision/Blizzard is a single company now, with Bobby Kotick as its CEO. The following is from totalvideogames.com, passing along Bobby's comments from a post earnings report conference call:

"With respect to the franchises that don't have the potential to be exploited every year across every platform, with clear sequel potential that can meet our objectives of over time becoming $100 million plus franchises: that's a strategy that has worked very well for us."

"I think generally our strategy has been to focus [on games] . . . that we know if we release today, we'll be working on ten years from now," Kotick continued before going on to explain how unreliable investments in new intellectual properties can be.

[Link]

Activision/Blizzard are adversed to the risks associated with innovation according to their CEO. The sad part is, this policy has been working out well for them so far.

nix

Seifer wrote: »

Once you buy all three parts.
None of which will have lan play.

What?!?! Excuse my lack of knowledge, i dont tend to follow games development much as i dont want to spoil anything. Just look at the odd screenshots, but they arent releasing terran, zerg and protoss campaigns as 3 seperate packages are they? Please tell me i miss interpreted what you said

Fnz wrote: »

Activision/Blizzard is a single company now, with Bobby Kotick as its CEO. The following is from totalvideogames.com, passing along Bobby's comments from a post earnings report conference call:



[Link]

Activision/Blizzard are adversed to the risks associated with innovation according to their CEO. The sad part is, this policy has been working out well for them so far.

Bloody hell, this is all news to me :eek:

I cant believe blizz merged, why would they do such a thing?

Yeah yeah i know, its all about the $$$$ i guess :mad:

Kiith

nix wrote: »

but they arent releasing terran, zerg and protoss campaigns as 3 seperate packages are they? Please tell me i miss interpreted what you said

Afraid your spot on with your interpretation. Each campaign is 25-30 missions though, compared to the originals 8 per race.

Silverfish

Bubs101 wrote: »

Say what?? everybody is slapped with a nationality, nobody chooses. Why should they get a choice, the North is british and has been for 209 years.

I don't think you understand what I'm saying - first of all, they are allowed by law to select whether they are Irish or British, I didn't make that law up so no point arguing with me over it

Secondly, if I was on holidays in France when I buy this game, I would like to be able to select Irish as my nationality, not slapped with French because I happen to be there at the time.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

well if you cared that much about it you should buy it in Ireland, and help the Irish economy instead of the french.

me-skywalker

So you* play a game that is a war between the Brits and the Gerries and the Yanks and the Japs and you complain taht the little flag your given is a british flag... next i would like you to tell me would you like to play as an irish man with red hair and freckles and a pitchfork in the frontline charging the trenches...

*I play too - But if its northern irish then they are part of great britain and in the war they were heavily involved in this war as a member of the british contingency.

Seifer

me-skywalker wrote: »

So you* play a game that is a war between the Brits and the Gerries and the Yanks and the Japs and you complain taht the little flag your given is a british flag... next i would like you to tell me would you like to play as an irish man with red hair and freckles and a pitchfork in the frontline charging the trenches...

*I play too - But if its northern irish then they are part of great britain and in the war they were heavily involved in this war as a member of the british contingency.

You're special.
The flag identifies the player's nationality and has nothing to do with your in-game role.
As has been pointed out many times in this thread, it is the right of someone in Northern Ireland to declare themselves as Irish.

hobochris

me-skywalker wrote: »

So you* play a game that is a war between the Brits and the Gerries and the Yanks and the Japs and you complain taht the little flag your given is a british flag... next i would like you to tell me would you like to play as an irish man with red hair and freckles and a pitchfork in the frontline charging the trenches...

*I play too - But if its northern irish then they are part of great britain and in the war they were heavily involved in this war as a member of the british contingency.

The British army had/have an Irish regiment for those Irish men who joined the British army but still wanted to distinguish themselves is Irish. Surely Ea could reflect this in the interests of having a more realistic game?

noodler

me-skywalker wrote: »

So you* play a game that is a war between the Brits and the Gerries and the Yanks and the Japs and you complain taht the little flag your given is a british flag... next i would like you to tell me would you like to play as an irish man with red hair and freckles and a pitchfork in the frontline charging the trenches...

*I play too - But if its northern irish then they are part of great britain and in the war they were heavily involved in this war as a member of the british contingency.

Seriously, what the hell has that got to do with anything. It doesn't matter what game we are playing - it could be freaking Tetris for all the difference it makes.

*Many ROI fought for Britain too.

Seifer

hobochris wrote: »

The British army had/have an Irish regiment for those Irish men who joined the British army but still wanted to distinguish themselves is Irish. Surely Ea could reflect this in the interests of having a more realistic game?

What are you talking about? It's not like you can only be identified as countries that were directly involved in the war.
All the flags are there, they just seemed locked to your location instead of letting you pick which one you want to use.

hobochris

Seifer wrote: »

What are you talking about? It's not like you can only be identified as countries that were directly involved in the war.
All the flags are there, they just seemed locked to your location instead of letting you pick which one you want to use.

I was going on what the quoted post suggested, hence quoting it!

monument

Just a general comment: Please keep personal remarks to minimal.

DARK-KNIGHT

hey just been reading through this and tbh some valid points made either side, but tbh anyone upset about being branded with a union jack should consider not buying until it has changed and an irish flag available!

instead of moaning here why not complain to gaming co.?

and a lot of irish fought for britain in both wars, and not to fight for the queen but to fight against the likes of the evil hitler in ww2!

and why are people taking this to heart? take a stand and email the co in question!

anyways good luck to all,

Ray

monument

raycaulwell wrote: »

instead of moaning here why not complain to gaming co.?

You'd be surprised who reads boards.ie.

DARK-KNIGHT

monument wrote: »

You'd be surprised who reads boards.ie.

never really thought about it like that monument;)

if thats the case XBOX WHERE IS THE PORTABLE CONSOLE WE WERE PROMISED?? lol

Absolam

monument wrote: »

You'd be surprised who reads boards.ie.

+1

ScumLord

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

well if you cared that much about it you should buy it in Ireland, and help the Irish economy instead of the french.

In fairness aren't most of the shops that sell computer games (at decent prices anyway) from the UK? Hoe much of the cost of the game do you reckon would actually stay in Ireland. One or two lost sales to people on holiday isn't going to make that much of a difference.