the guards,

weeder

lads i have a question,are the guards allowed to use bad language whilst dealing with a situation,also, are they obliged to write a receipt on request for somthing which he has confiscated

Silverfish

Uh oh, what did you do?

galwayrush

Depends on which country you're in.:D

Jesus Wept

Ask them to write an IOU.

soundsham

yes and no

weeder

guards means ireland,
what i did was had some cans confiscated from my backpack earlier,took my ID told me to collect them tomorrow, refused to issue me a receipt which i thought he had to if requested, used bad language throughout the whole situation

galwayrush

weeder wrote: »

guards means ireland,
what i did was had some cans confiscated from my backpack earlier,took my ID told me to collect them tomorrow, refused to issue me a receipt which i thought he had to if requested, used bad language throughout the whole situation

In that case, just forget about it.

Run_to_da_hills

A member of An Garda Siochana is not supposed to use inappropriate language to members of the public,

weeder

no, im 18, showed the man ID, searched me under the illegal substances act and confiscated the drink under the intoxicating liquor act,also had a can in hand which was confiscated and emptied into the nearest bin under the drinking in public act? he used bad language throughout,

I felt a bit as if he was acting a bit outside of whats acceptable to being on duty in AGS,infact if i got a reciept and he wasnt cursing like he was i wouldnt be writing this now

meathstevie

I think "bad language" should be approached with a degree of flexibility. In some situations it might be appropriate to use a bit of seasoning in the conversation in order to get a job done.

galwayrush

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

A member of An Garda Siochana is not supposed to use inappropriate language to members of the public,

When was this vehicle veee hackle last taxed ?
Do you know what speed you were doing?



Shocking language indeed.:(

Overheal

weeder wrote: »

lads i have a question,are the guards allowed to use bad language whilst dealing with a situation,also, are they obliged to write a receipt on request for somthing which he has confiscated

lol.

You want to discredit a cop for using a swear word?

Oh yes, here we go protecting free speech again.

Should not, and Can not, are two very different beasts.

But sure, if he was being a complete bully for no good reason youd have every right to be pissed off.

soundsham

weeder wrote: »

no, im 18, showed the man ID, searched me under the illegal substances act and confiscated the drink under the intoxicating liquor act,also had a can in hand which was confiscated and emptied into the nearest bin under the drinking in public act? he used bad language throughout,

I felt a bit as if he was acting a bit outside of whats acceptable to being on duty in AGS,infact if i got a reciept and he wasnt cursing like he was i wouldnt be writing this now

why didn't you man up,and tell him to go tackle some serious criminals rather than bothering someone knacker drinking

sorry my first reply was yes no i thought you meant guard as in prison not garda

Overheal

Meanwhile :rolleyes:

Heckler

Got dogs abuse from a Guard before for no reason. By christ that ****er could swear.

weeder

somewhere elsewhere in the park some local junkies set a traffic cone on fire and we were approached and told to put the fire out,when we asked how he replied with "I dont give a ****e" happened 1 or 2 other times,

weeder

being 6 cans sober'er has me annoyed

Run_to_da_hills

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AlmightyCushion

You should have told the guardia to "quit being such a dry shíte". they would have handed you back yoru booze and told you to have a goodnight. Remember that for the furutre.

A Primal Nut

Oh no, someone cursed, who gives a damn. Nobody is supposed to curse in their day to day lives, that doesn't mean they won't.

toxick

From my knowledge of the intoxicating liquor act. Guard's can only take a opened bottle or container of alcohol. if the others were away from site(in your bag) and unopened, they cant confiscate them, well not with teh intoxicating liquor act anyways.

As far as I know tho.

The cursing... f**k it, its just words.

philologos

weeder wrote: »

no, im 18, showed the man ID, searched me under the illegal substances act and confiscated the drink under the intoxicating liquor act,also had a can in hand which was confiscated and emptied into the nearest bin under the drinking in public act? he used bad language throughout,

Theres your problem:
Drinking in public places / on the street is illegal in Ireland and the Gards had the right to do as they did.

As for swearing, I wouldn't let that get under your skin too much, I mean you're going to hear that kind of language everywhere aren't you?

Sam Kade

Gardaí

Caoimhín

I suppose Guards are human too, so maybe he/she was just having a bad day.
I know if I had to deal with gobshoites all day I would be pretty cranky by hometime. All the same, he shouldn't have used offensive language.

Shield

There's a different between "not supposed to" and "not allowed to". Gardaí may use profane language if the need arises. Courts accept that Gardaí do need to use profanity on occasion.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

A member of An Garda Siochana is not supposed to use inappropriate language to members of the public,

Mr Benevolent

lads i have a question,are the guards allowed to use bad language whilst dealing with a situation,also, are they obliged to write a receipt on request for somthing which he has confiscated

Grasping at straws tbh.

Dudess

psni wrote: »

There's a different between "not supposed to" and "not allowed to". Gardaí may use profane language if the need arises. Courts accept that Gardaí do need to use profanity on occasion.

I don't see how they'd "need" to. And so what if you hear swearing everyday in other situations and plenty of people swear when they shouldn't, etc?
The garda was on duty, making him unprofessional, aggressive and plain ill-mannered.

Nodin

weeder wrote: »

lads i have a question,are the guards allowed to use bad language whilst dealing with a situation,also, are they obliged to write a receipt on request for somthing which he has confiscated

It depends on what end of the socio-economic spectrum you're from

Warning - Anecdote wrote:

For many years, Gardai from a station referred to the local young lads not by their names but called them 'Dirt'. eg 'Dirt - come here', 'What are ye at, Dirt'.

Collie D

How many times have people complained on here that the Guards aren't doing there jobs and are too soft on kids going arond knacker drinking. This Guard did it, big deal. Move the f*ck alng and give me your cans, you little b*ll)x.

OP, don't be sensitive. I know Guards that would have kicked the sh*te out of you for good measure if you'd asked for a receipt :pac:

YT

Are female Gardaí under the impression that ten layers of pan stick is body armour?

AckwelFoley

The guards have your cans. Your not getting them back. thay have them well drank by now.

Run_to_da_hills

psni wrote: »

There's a different between "not supposed to" and "not allowed to". Gardaí may use profane language if the need arises. Courts accept that Gardaí do need to use profanity on occasion.

When I was cycling to school I got done for breaking a pedestrian light on the Blackrock bypass. The Garda used appaling language at me in front of a que waiting at a bus stop. I told my dad about this and he went down to the station and got the summonse quashed.

Collie D

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

When I was cycling to school I got done for breaking a pedestrian light on the Blackrock bypass. The Garda used appaling language at me in front of a que waiting at a bus stop. I told my dad about this and he went down to the station and got the summonse quashed.

Try doing that in Coolock, Ballymun or Finglas and see what happens

ejmaztec

snyper wrote: »

The guards have your cans. Your not getting them back. thay have them well drank by now.

They're probably staggering around now looking for another sucker to part with his cans.

Handsome Bob

soundsham wrote: »

why didn't you man up,and tell him to go tackle some serious criminals rather than bothering someone knacker drinking

sorry my first reply was yes no i thought you meant guard as in prison not garda

I'm sure that's what you would have said right? I've learned from experience that the last thing you need when dealing with a difficult garda is to throw the old "why don't you do some real work and go after the real scum?" line at them.

dlofnep

Never talk to a Garda while intoxicated. It never turns out right. EVER.

Unless it's your girlfriend as she's in a costume, OOHHH YEAHH!!

brendansmith

A guard cursed at you???

I hope you told him that your taxes pay his salary! That ought to have shut his little potty mouth.

I mean someone who is paid not great money tbh to deal the all the junkies, knackers, skumbags and general human waste in society should really address a very important 18 year old drinking in the streets, like yourself, with the utmost respect. Its down right disgusting!!!

Dudess

What's actually ok about a garda being obnoxious and aggressive? You can rant all you want about how he didn't do anything that bad, but it was still grossly unprofessional and ill-mannered. Nobody's saying he had to kiss the OP's arse.

brendansmith

dlofnep wrote: »

Never talk to a Garda while intoxicated. It never turns out right. EVER.

Unless it's your girlfriend as she's in a costume, OOHHH YEAHH!!

I dont think donning a costume gives you automatic right to act as a sworn garda, im not sure but i think there is a whole process of testing etc that they do to entitle such.

I may be wrong now

brendansmith

Dudess wrote: »

What's actually ok about a garda being obnoxious and aggressive? You can rant all you want about how he didn't do anything that bad, but it was still grossly unprofessional and ill-mannered. Nobody's saying he had to kiss the OP's arse.

The gardai get a tough time of it and I just think if the OP was drinking on the street (which everyone knows is illegal) the garda was probably sick of seeing all these people blatently assuming they are above the law that he is there to uphold then a little outburst may set the OP straight. I mean is a garda supposed to inform everyone on the whole street that its illegal individually??

sdanseo

Awwh weeder get over yourself - are you telling me youve never cursed in the course of a conversation or while doing your job? If you got the stuff confiscated you were pbviously being a muppet, the Guards have better and more interesting things to than seeking out people with a few cans on them. If they come accross you, they do their job and maybe use a few swear words but it's hardly like you were an 80yo woman who'd have a heart attack as a result.

You're just pissed off cos you were silly and drink is expensive. Draw a line under it and move on for the sake of boards.

Larianne

Dudess wrote: »

What's actually ok about a garda being obnoxious and aggressive? You can rant all you want about how he didn't do anything that bad, but it was still grossly unprofessional and ill-mannered. Nobody's saying he had to kiss the OP's arse.

Maybe the OP was being obnoxious and aggressive? He was drinking after all and a lot of people become braver and have a bit of a mouth on them when drunk.

brendansmith

sdonn wrote: »

Awwh weeder get over yourself - are you telling me youve never cursed in the course of a conversation or while doing your job? If you got the stuff confiscated you were pbviously being a muppet, the Guards have better and more interesting things to than seeking out people with a few cans on them. If they come accross you, they do their job and maybe use a few swear words but it's hardly like you were an 80yo woman who'd have a heart attack as a result.

You're just pissed off cos you were silly and drink is expensive. Draw a line under it and move on for the sake of boards.

Or else you could always set up a vigilante strike squad of crack ex-marines and go around teaching the foul mouthed a lesson in pain.

Just a suggestion,

blue-army

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brendansmith

blue-army wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgWrV8TcUc

Jesus, McNulty really let himself go:pac:

Dudess

sdonn wrote: »

Awwh weeder get over yourself - are you telling me youve never cursed in the course of a conversation or while doing your job?

"In the course of a conversation" is a moot comparison. "While doing your job" - if it's dealing with the public, I'd imagine most people haven't, no. I deal with the public and would get into trouble for it while doing my job.

sam34

Larianne wrote: »

Maybe the OP was being obnoxious and aggressive? He was drinking after all and a lot of people become braver and have a bit of a mouth on them when drunk.

maybe he was. so what? that doesnt mean the Garda has the right to be abusive back. the Garda should deal with people in a professional manner.

i deal with abusive and aggressive and foul-mouthed people every single day as part of my job, and i do not get foul-mouthed or aggressive back to them. that would be irresponsible, unprofessional and disrespectful. if i behaved like that, i would expect to get a lot of hassle from my boss. why should teh Gardai be any different?

sdanseo

Dudess wrote: »

"In the course of a conversation" is a moot comparison. "While doing your job" - if it's dealing with the public, I'd imagine most people haven't, no. I deal with the public and would get into trouble for it while doing my job.

So do I, and a passing swear word is normal depending who you're talking to. The OP as I said is 18, not 80. Obviously if I started telling people to go and **** themselves it'd be different :pac:

Collie D

sam34 wrote: »

why should teh Gardai be any different?

Because the Guards are dealing with criminals, not customers. A Guard swore at some kid out knacker drinking and took his cans. I am assuming that he was being snotty by asking for a receipt and probably a bit jarred.

Larianne

sam34 wrote: »

maybe he was. so what? that doesnt mean the Garda has the right to be abusive back. the Garda should deal with people in a professional manner.

i deal with abusive and aggressive and foul-mouthed people every single day as part of my job, and i do not get foul-mouthed or aggressive back to them. that would be irresponsible, unprofessional and disrespectful. if i behaved like that, i would expect to get a lot of hassle from my boss. why should teh Gardai be any different?

Sometimes that's the only way they can get through to certain types of people. I'm sure the garda didn't go up to the lad cursing when he first approached. I'd imagine it was a case of a drunken fool not taking the garda seriously and giving him cheek.

It's a different situation to the area you work in.

sam34

Collie D wrote: »

Because the Guards are dealing with criminals, not customers. A Guard swore at some kid out knacker drinking and took his cans. I am assuming that he was being snotty by asking for a receipt and probably a bit jarred.

look, im far from a bleeding heart liberal, and i have little or no time for young lads out knacker drinking and getting involved in public order offences.

BUT, the Garda has a job to do and should be professional in his dealings with the public, irrespective of how much of a muppet the young lad was being.

(a few years ago i was on the receiving end of what can only be described as a complete bollo**ing from a guard. im talking about very foul and abusive language, being roared at me by a fella who was about 6 foot 2 and 16 stone, while im female and 5 foot 4. it was incredibly intimidating. and i wasnt being in any way obnoxious to him, i was quite the opposite, shaken and quiet and apologetic. now, it wasnt a public order offence, but it was a minor offence, and i was in my late twenties at teh time, so not quite a young wan. now, the boll**king worked, in that i never repeated the offence, and never will, but the whole thing left a very sour taste in my mouth. it has made me wary of teh gardai and i feel he was inappropriate and obnoxious)