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TDK Sequel filming next year - Gary Oldman

  • 24-07-2009 7:21pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭


    Gary Oldman just announced at the Warner Bros. Book of Eli panel that a third Batman film will go into production next year.

    "I think the next Batman is next year," he told a fan who asked about when the long-awaited "Dark Knight" follow-up would hit, "We start shooting next year. You didn't hear that from me."
    http://www.superherohype.com/news/batmannews.php?id=8557

    Of course there is always a chance that Oldman is just taking the piss but if he was then he was just being a major dick. That being said, I'd be shocked if filming got underway next year, so I'm taking this with a pinch of salt.


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  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The stuido more than likely wants to start shooting next year and I could well see it happening. It's been a year since The Dark Knight and could well be another 12 months before they intend to start shooting, plenty of time to get the film up and running.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    The stuido more than likely wants to start shooting next year and I could well see it happening. It's been a year since The Dark Knight and could well be another 12 months before they intend to start shooting, plenty of time to get the film up and running.

    True that would be the standard situation because there was 3 years between Spider-Man 2 & 3 and 3 years between Batman Begins and The Dark Knight.

    However the thing here is that people knew for sure that Raimi would direct S-M3 and people knew for sure that Nolan would direct TDK. Nolan really had a lot of fans worried that he wouldn't do a 3rd film, that's why I find Oldman's admission so surreal. It's hard to take in.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Being honest if Nolan didn't return I wouldn't mind. He's been dicking the fans around about the 3rd film with his whole will I, won't I routine. He's a gifted filmmaker but seems to view Batman as being beneath him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Being honest if Nolan didn't return I wouldn't mind. He's been dicking the fans around about the 3rd film with his whole will I, won't I routine. He's a gifted filmmaker but seems to view Batman as being beneath him.

    Yeah I understand that criticism and it's one of the things that worry me about the 3rd film. Nolan's all about the realism and there are only so many characters within the Bat universe that Nolan can fit within his universe.

    I think The Riddler is a given for this film as I think he's one of the few villains left that Nolan can fit into his universe. Him and lesser known Black Mask.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    A follow up to TDK?

    *ahem*

    YES! YES! CAN YOU FEEL IT HUH HUH CAN YA!!!?!?!!?!?

    *pelvic thrusts*

    That is all.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    I'd be honestly worried if a sequel went ahead without Nolan, it would need one hell of a good script and an extremely good director to follow up The Dark Knight, and I'm not sure there's many capable of that.

    I'm not sure about villains either, I could easily see Bane, Zsasz or Hush, or even some of the more strange characters being reworked to fit Nolan's Batman universe. After all, Ras al Ghul didn't have the supernatural Lazarus Pit element in the first film, so other villains could be equally as toned down. Although if rumours are to be believed, Joseph Gordon-Levitt could be taking over as The Joker.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm all for bringing in an actor to replace Ledger. While I agree that he was fantastic as the Joker I don't see why the character should be left out of the sequel as a mark fo respect. I would like to see a plot focus on a relationship between Scarecrow and Joker working together.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    I'm all for bringing in an actor to replace Ledger. While I agree that he was fantastic as the Joker I don't see why the character should be left out of the sequel as a mark fo respect. I would like to see a plot focus on a relationship between Scarecrow and Joker working together.

    It wouldn't be so much a case of a mark of respect for me personally more so than a case of maintaining continuity. It's one thing recasting a minor role such as Rachel Dawes and another thing recasting one of the cornerstones of the franchise.

    That being said, I trust Nolan. If his vision for the 3rd film requires the presence of The Joker then by all means a recast is necessary. However I just don't want to see a recast for the sake of one.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm more curious as to see if Two Face will return. Eckart was signed for more than one film and technically we didn't see him die. It could quite possibly be that he was send to Arkham and rather than risk undoing all of Dent's good work they had a token funeral. Part 3 could focus on a Batman on the run with Two Face's re-emergence alongside the Joker.

    Hush would be an interesting character to use, though personally I would love to see them use Phantasm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    I'm more curious as to see if Two Face will return. Eckart was signed for more than one film and technically we didn't see him die. It could quite possibly be that he was send to Arkham and rather than risk undoing all of Dent's good work they had a token funeral. Part 3 could focus on a Batman on the run with Two Face's re-emergence alongside the Joker.

    Hush would be an interesting character to use, though personally I would love to see them use Phantasm.

    Eckhart to my disappointment got a categorical "You're dead" from Chris Nolan.

    http://www.superherohype.com/news/featuresnews.php?id=7641


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭brennaldo


    even though i wouldnt mind a recast of the joker, its pretty obvious that everyone will just complain that the new guy wasnt good enough (its inevitable)

    i would hope they bring in the riddler. my top 3 actors to play him would be (in any order really), johnny depp, david tennant or edward norton.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,082 ✭✭✭lostexpectation


    what graphic novel would it be based on


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    brennaldo wrote: »
    even though i wouldnt mind a recast of the joker, its pretty obvious that everyone will just complain that the new guy wasnt good enough (its inevitable)

    Yeah, but people gave out stink about Heath Ledger when he was cast in The Dark Knight, saying it was going to be awful, that Ledger sucks and he shouldn't play the joker and so forth. But then the trailers came and people changed their tune. So I reckon that as long as a good actor gets the role, and puts in a good performance, the nay-sayers will pipe down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Yeah, but people gave out stink about Heath Ledger when he was cast in The Dark Knight, saying it was going to be awful, that Ledger sucks and he shouldn't play the joker and so forth. But then the trailers came and people changed their tune. So I reckon that as long as a good actor gets the role, and puts in a good performance, the nay-sayers will pipe down.

    You never know, there will always be an element of deranged fanboys who will show dissent. Let's not forget about those who wanted the character of the Joker retired from cinema forever in respect for Heath! :pac:


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If Nolan opts out of a third film and Bale follows him then where will the franchise go? I think that Zack Snyder's plans to adapt Dark Knight Returns could be interesting though much of it was used in Begins. If they do go with that then Michael Ironside is the obvious choice for Batman, shame that his low star wattage will more than likely rule him out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,123 ✭✭✭the whole year inn


    Either way its goign to be along wait,and what ever Nolan decides its never really going to surpass TDK but Joseph Gordon-Levitt is a fine actor and with Nolan could do a good job.Cant wait for this movie and if its even half as good as TDK its going to blow most movied out of the water!

    Maybe Harlequin might turn up doubtfull tho.If he want to keep it realistic then Id say the Tax Man character will be entered in the universe and rape Bruce Waynes funds,Batman looks for revenge and kicks the **** out of Bernie Madoff and the dicks from Fanny Mae.

    Might learn a life lesson watching this!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    If Nolan opts out of a third film and Bale follows him then where will the franchise go? I think that Zack Snyder's plans to adapt Dark Knight Returns could be interesting though much of it was used in Begins. If they do go with that then Michael Ironside is the obvious choice for Batman, shame that his low star wattage will more than likely rule him out.

    That would be what I would prefer, rather than bringing in a new director to try and sustain the universe that Nolan created. We saw how that worked out when Burton left and Schumacher tried to continue on within the same universe.

    If TDKR was made I'd love to see Mickey Rourke as Bruce Wayne. If only he wasn't too old I'd love to see Clint Eastwood as Gordon too.

    Having said all this, I'd be confident that Nolan will return. I don't think the likes of Bale or Oldman would return if Nolan left.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Michael Ironside as Batman from the animated series in an homage to The Dark Knight by Frank Miller.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Michael Ironside as Batman from the animated series in an homage to The Dark Knight by Frank Miller.


    Sweet, I've never seen that before. It is a shame that he probably wouldn't be considered, it's a similar situation for Mark Hamill too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 437 ✭✭Sleazus


    Apparently when pressed on it again today, Oldman conceded that he'd been "a naughty boy". Take that for what you will.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Sleazus wrote: »
    Apparently when pressed on it again today, Oldman conceded that he'd been "a naughty boy". Take that for what you will.

    That could be taken in two ways; either he was "a naughty boy" because he said more than he should of, or because he was lying. It better not be the latter!


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    Sweet, I've never seen that before. It is a shame that he probably wouldn't be considered, it's a similar situation for Mark Hamill too.

    It is an excellent episode of the show. I would love to see Ironside in the role but as I said fat chance of that happening. On a happier note, I should be meeting him soon and having a chat with him about the new Splinter Cell, I do believe that I shall be discussing his film work as well as I'm a massive fan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    http://www.ok.co.uk//celebnews/view/12577/Batman-Bale-will-start-shooting-again-next-year/

    OK jump on the bandwagon by claiming Bale has confirmed it too, but no direct quotes from Bale.

    Video of Oldman confirming the new;



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Cyrus to play Batgirl in 'Dark Knight' sequel?

    Tuesday, July 28 2009, 15:18 BST
    Miley Cyrus has reportedly auditioned for the role of Batgirl in the proposed Dark Knight sequel.

    It is understood that the Hannah Montana star donned a batsuit and prepared her own dialogue for Warner Brothers executives, who are said to have been "stunned" by her performance.


    "She was sort of hopping around the room and had even written some dialogue for herself," an insider told The Globe. "The problem is, some people aren't really convinced Miley has the acting chops to pull it off."


    Gary Oldman is believed to have confirmed that the latest instalment of the Batman franchise will begin filming next year, while director Christopher Nolan may be on board for the third outing.



    The part of Batgirl was played by Yvonne Craig on the 1960s US TV series, while Alicia Silverstone portrayed the caped heroine for 1997 film Batman & Robin.
    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/a167902/cyrus-to-play-batgirl-in-dark-knight-sequel.html


    I LOL'd at the bolded part. It's undoubtedly pure bollocks but just imagine if Cyrus had a meeting with Warner Bros. Execs and it was about throwing around ideas for future projects. Next thing the suits know in comes Ms. Cyrus prancing around in a Batgirl suit spouting out dialogue that the 60's TV show would be proud of. Oh I'd say the Execs were stunned alright, stunned at the cringfest that they were enduring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    You never know, there will always be an element of deranged fanboys who will show dissent. Let's not forget about those who wanted the character of the Joker retired from cinema forever in respect for Heath! :pac:

    Or the ones who swore no one else could ever be considered the Joker after Jack Nicholson.

    and superLOLs to the Miley Cyrus bit.

    Miley Cyrus, Eddie Murphy... kill me now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,584 ✭✭✭✭Liam O


    If only Alicia Silverstone wasn't too old. She was something else looks wise... anyway-acting doesn't matter when you're that good looking, see Megan Fox :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    he told a fan who asked about when the long-awaited "Dark Knight" follow-up would hit

    Oh come the f*ck on, the film is hardly 2 years old! long awaited sequel is the sequel to Tron.

    Who writes this crap?


    On the whole *who who* we have had it numerous times on numerous threads and my vote is still for Black Mask as a new element. If the joker does make a reappearance, I hope it would be in a diminished role (locked up in arkham in a hannibal sort of role?) and at most set it up for a focus on him in a following film rather then straight away after dark knight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    Liam O wrote: »
    If only Alicia Silverstone wasn't too old. She was something else looks wise...

    hell she still is!!
    BlitzKrieg wrote: »
    If the joker does make a reappearance, I hope it would be in a diminished role (locked up in arkham in a hannibal sort of role?) .

    i think that's a brilliant idea, it will stop the nay sayers goin on about "zomg they cant do that with the joker, no one can match or better the performance of jack heath!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭MikeC101


    "She was sort of hopping around the room and had even written some dialogue for herself," an insider told The Globe

    :D

    Ah the good old "room hopping" acting technique. The true test of any actors mettle - sure anyone can "act" but can they hop around a room convincingly?


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  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I actually think that given the right role Eddie Murphy could be quite good. He was fantastic in Dream Girls and there's a good chance that the only reason he didn't win the Oscar was because Norbit was released in the weeks before Oscar night.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    I actually think that given the right role Eddie Murphy could be quite good. He was fantastic in Dream Girls and there's a good chance that the only reason he didn't win the Oscar was because Norbit was released in the weeks before Oscar night.

    And what about Miley? :pac:


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    And what about Miley? :pac:

    Well we've yet to see her actually attempt to act so she may surprise us all. There's no way in hell anyone is going to let her near a Batman film though. Thinking about it she has played a similar role before, Miley Cryrus singing sensation by day, Hannah Montana singing sensation by night. Batman needs a mask to hide his identity all she needs is a wig.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,123 ✭✭✭the whole year inn


    No she would be terrible,there no way in hell Nolan/Bale let this happen.When did she live Disney by the way?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,942 ✭✭✭missingtime


    No Robin, No Batgirl.

    Them's the rules!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,727 ✭✭✭fluke


    BlitzKrieg wrote: »
    Oh come the f*ck on, the film is hardly 2 years old! long awaited sequel is the sequel to Tron.

    Who writes this crap?


    On the whole *who who* we have had it numerous times on numerous threads and my vote is still for Black Mask as a new element. If the joker does make a reappearance, I hope it would be in a diminished role (locked up in arkham in a hannibal sort of role?) and at most set it up for a focus on him in a following film rather then straight away after dark knight.


    +1


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 690 ✭✭✭Frankmagnet


    I thought I read somewhere after TDK was released that Nolan said there was extra footage of Ledger and it would be used to end the Joker ark in the next movie so I assume it would be a shot of him in a straight jack in Arkham or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,969 ✭✭✭robby^5


    I thought I read somewhere after TDK was released that Nolan said there was extra footage of Ledger and it would be used to end the Joker ark in the next movie so I assume it would be a shot of him in a straight jack in Arkham or something.

    Link?

    I thought Nolan didnt shoot much extra footage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Yeah I seem to remember reading somewhere that Nolan said that he basically uses everything he films, that's why there are no deleted scenes on the DVD. Here's a quote from him and while it's not categorical, it does suggest that there is no unused footage of Heath;
    But Nolan insists he's never included such leftovers on his DVDs, and wasn't about to start with this one. "For my past three films, I really haven't had scenes that didn't make it in the movie. If it's in the final script, I tend put it on screen ... I don't like outtakes or gag reels.

    http://www.cinematical.com/2008/12/08/christopher-nolan-outlining-batman-3-explains-dvd-extras/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    They filmed loads of scenes in different angles and chopped out tiny snippets of extra bits in scenes. Check out all the trailers to see them, personally I think they should've left a load of them in (Batman running atop of police cars, a wide shot of The Joker walking slowly towards an unconsicous Batman after he crashed his bike into the overturned truck, etc)

    And then there's this scene that wasn't in the film:
    heath-ledger-joker.jpg

    It's when him and the gang leaves the party after chucking Rachel out the window.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭superfly


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    And what about Miley? :pac:

    he could be The Scarecrow

    Mick_Lally_3004751_display.jpg


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    i like the idea of the joker in a hannibal lector role.
    could have a variation of the "mobile phone in mountjoy" where he still carries on with his vision, directing terrorism in gotham. what can batman do? he's a wanted criminal
    the old cliche of the main bat villains has been done and maybe the new film can introduce new villains with "a taste for theatrics". The new films really down play the "comic book" aspect of batman and play it more realisitic.
    meanwhile batman (obsessed with fighting crime) who while attempting to counter the terrorism struggles in his role as a wanted man. batman needs allies so the development of Robin (:eek:) could be explored.
    I can just see the Warner Bros suits thinking "yeah let's get that guy from Twilight!"
    The question is does Robin have to be a younger man? Could he be older?

    So many questions, just my thoughts


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    The problem with Robin, and indeed Batgirl, is that it directly clashes with what Nolan has created. In his world of grounded reality, there is just no argument that can be made for Batman bringing along a kid in his dangerous fight against crime.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Rumours are floating about that Nolan could be starting work on the third Batman film soon. He's walked from The Prisoner film and talk is getting serious about a new Batman.
    Batman Begins moviemaker Christopher Nolan has abandoned plans to direct a new big screen adaptation of cult British TV series The Prisoner.

    Nolan had signed up to turn the 1968 show - which starred Patrick McGoohan - into a big budget blockbuster, but he has now quit the production amid rumours he is planning to start work on his third Batman movie early.

    Nolan's departure has thrown The Prisoner into jeopardy - producer Barry Mendel admits they might not get the green light for the project until movie executives have gauged the success of the new TV version, which stars Ian McKellen and Jim Caviezel and is set to air later this year.

    Mendel tells CineFools, "’Nolan has dropped out of it but we have a first draft (of the script) by David and Janet Peoples who wrote Twelve Monkeys. It's a good draft and we're working on the script right now.’

    “If the series was wildly popular that might effect us. The screenplay (we've got) is such a re-imagination of the series, if you think of The Avengers that wasn't a commercially successful film but it was very much in the spirit of the original show, this looks and feels so different that the tenants of the show are apparent but the execution of it is so different that I think it is unrecognisable."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,081 ✭✭✭ziedth


    Rumours are floating about that Nolan could be starting work on the third Batman film soon. He's walked from The Prisoner film and talk is getting serious about a new Batman.

    Great if we get a sequel but I'm more happy about not seeing the prisoner happening. I mean who wants to see a Reimaging of it, what made it so great was that it was so Bat**** crazy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 272 ✭✭Salvelinus


    Rumours are floating about that Nolan could be starting work on the third Batman film soon. He's walked from The Prisoner film and talk is getting serious about a new Batman.

    Where is that link from. there is so much crap on the internets tubes so I'll wait to hear it form Warner Bros.
    Also do people really think the joker as a hannibal lector type role would work? Come on, it implies that there was collusion with the villain in The Dark Knight and it will just ocme across as a cheap rip off.
    I say get Leonardo DiCaprio or Ryan Gosling for The Joker and have him escape, possibly with The Scare Crow and drag an already messed up gang war down even deeper.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Salvelinus wrote: »
    I say get Leonardo DiCaprio or Ryan Gosling for The Joker

    I'm still backing Joseph Gordon-Levitt for the Joker. Something about his eyes are a dead match for Ledger's:

    lookout.jpg

    Even though he's younger than Ledger, the guy can act and I'd say he'd be terrific in the role.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,372 ✭✭✭✭Mr Alan


    ^^^^^

    friend of Ledgers as well afaik after the two appeared in the classic, "10 Things I Hate About You"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭JP Liz


    Actress Megan Fox will reportedly play Catwoman "Selina Kyle" in the upcoming Batman film, according to a British newspaper's report on August 26, 2009. Filming for the latest Batman movie will begin in 2010 and is expected to premiere in 2011. Fox's portrayal of Catwoman will have a "darker edge" according to reports.

    I still prefer Emily Blunt as Catwoman


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Right up there with the "Cyrus for Batgirl" reports, Nolan will not hire Megan Fox, nor will Megan Fox be pushed on him by execs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭oceanclub


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    Right up there with the "Cyrus for Batgirl" reports, Nolan will not hire Megan Fox, nor will Megan Fox be pushed on him by execs.

    Probably a rumour from the same deranged person who said that Eddie Murphy would be the Riddler.


    P.


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