Top 13 counties - tyrone #1, kerry 5th!!

blues2

What do you think of this assessment. Personally, Dublin dont deserve 2nd and Kerry and Galway don't deserve 5th and 7th respectively.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/red-hands-have-sam-within-their-grasp-1838202.html

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IT'S that time of year again. The provincial championships over (thank God!), the hay all saved by my country cousins, and the real games about to begin. That, means it's time for the Barr mid-season review and, going forward, a chance to look at the main contenders for Sam.
Normally, there are 12 counties left in the football championship but because of the replay between Wexford and Roscommon in round two of the qualifiers, we have 13 teams left to evaluate. So without further ado, I give you my honest 1-to-13 in Barr's Baker's Dozen.
1: TYRONE
The team everyone has to beat. Won Ulster at a canter, some might say that could count against them if they draw the likes of Kerry in the quarter-finals, but I beg to differ. As a team they have achieved everything possible -- winning through the back door and front door, and beating all the top teams along the way -- but the one thing missing on their CV is back-to-back All-Irelands, and I know that neither Mickey Harte nor the players will rest until this is achieved. Going the direct route this year will have helped their cause. Sean Cavanagh is hitting top stride, Brian Dooher is on the verge of full fitness and Enda McGinley is poised to return from injury -- it's going to take a serious team to stop them.
2: DUBLIN
You might say this lofty position flatters them, and you might be right. But just bear with me. They are in the same position as they have been in previous years, but I honestly think there is more purpose and cohesion about Dublin this summer. They have a consistent forward line, they are showing an impressive work ethic, they have a stronger bench this year, and the management has been rigidly strict on discipline -- both on and off the field. By no means the finished article, as Kildare showed when kicking 18 points from play, but they can improve further by learning from the mistakes of recent years.
3: CORK
Not much to choose between them and the Dubs, but Kerry have done little to endorse their form book, and their struggle against Limerick shows they still have much to learn. On the positive side, they are a really powerful outfit -- just look at Pearse O'Neill, Graham Canty and Nicholas Murphy -- and they will be a very hard team to beat once their forwards learn to take the right options inside the '40. I have no doubt this Cork team will win an All-Ireland, but it might be a year too soon.
4: MAYO
Some people might say they shouldn't be put above Kerry, but I'm leaning on current form and that is why they deserve this slot. They wiped the floor with New York and Roscommon, and against Galway, they threatened briefly to do the same when they went seven points up with seven minutes to go before Michael Meehan's equalising goal. John O'Mahony has now got a settled team, and with the political scene quietening down during August, he will also have a more settled personal routine which will enable him to give total focus on the championship. Mayo won't fear any team, and don't forget they got within a point of Tyrone last year.
5: KERRY
The great enigma. Is the tank half-full, or half-empty? They have shouldered a lot of criticism for their ropey displays against Longford and Sligo. No doubt, Lady Luck shined on them in both games, but the bottom line is they won. Fortunate again to draw Antrim, just seven days after the Saffons' loss to Tyrone, but they are still there and will be a different animal if they reach Croke Park. Still to sort out midfield and full-back problems, but the talent is there and they have one of the best managers in the country in Jack O'Connor. If anyone can turn it around, they can and I won't be surprised to see them lift themselves and go all the way.
6: KILDARE
Have come on in leaps and bounds since last summer's shock Leinster defeat to Wicklow and they possess more scope for improvement than most of their rivals. Impressed by the way they dispatched Offaly, Wexford and Laois, and will have learned a lot from their Leinster final loss to Dublin. Their biggest handicap is lack of experience. Aside from Dermot Earley, Ronan Sweeney and John Doyle, it is a relatively young team and while they are definitely going places under the shrewd guidance of Kieran McGeeney, the best I can see them doing this year is reaching an All-Ireland semi-final.
7: GALWAY
Will have been disappointed with their overall display against Mayo, though they battled bravely. They are still not far off the top and who can forget last year's thrilling All-Ireland quarter-final against Kerry when the standard of football was so high in terrible weather. However, they haven't reached that level this year and with major questions over their midfield and full-back line, the jury is still out.
8: WICKLOW
The success story of the summer, Micko's men deserve this position on the form they have shown. While helped by the 'Aughrim factor' in their qualifier wins, they have shown a great work ethic and tremendous resolve in beating so-called 'traditional' football counties like Cavan and Down. Great credit is due to Micko, Arthur French and Kevin O'Brien for the brand of football the team is playing. Capable of surprising Kildare again, but their opponents will have a point to prove after last year.
9: LIMERICK
The form lines are pretty good, but lack of firepower up front leaves them struggling to beat the top teams. Should have beaten Cork, but didn't and it's hard to know what mark that has left on them. On the plus side, have had plenty time to recover and have one of the best midfielders in the country in John Galvin.
10: MEATH
Still something of an unknown quantity. Were poor against Dublin, yet were only beaten by two points. Comfortable wins over Waterford and Westmeath will have restored confidence and a home draw against Roscommon is another positive.
11: ANTRIM
Nice to see a new addition in the final list of counties. They have played with great determination and freedom of spirit, but Tyrone was just a bridge too far and the 'draw' gods have not been too kind on them by pitting them against Kerry.
12: DONEGAL
A great win over Derry last Saturday, but there was no hint of this in their previous three outings and I just don't trust them to repeat those Derry heroics against Galway.
13: ROSCOMMON
Have repeatedly struggled to put two decent back-to-back performances together. A good win over Wexford last Saturday, so lads, prove me wrong against Meath!
- Keith Barr"

dcr22B

Would have to agree that until we perform in the latter stages of the championship and pull off a big victory, we shouldn't be ranked ahead of either Cork or Kerry.

Colm R

Based solely on this years championsip, its fair game to put Dublin ahead of Cork. If we performed like we could against Limerick, then perhaps we would be in second.

That said, if this is based solely on this years championship so far, then Kerry would not be in 5th.

whadabouchasir

Colm R wrote: »

That said, if this is based solely on this years championship so far, then Kerry would not be in 5th.

Maybe not,but they definately have the players to warrant being in this position.Also a team doesn't go from being one of the best in the country to a mediocre team overnight.They're just out of form.Personally i wouldn't like to meet them in the quater finals.

buck65

Where are Clare?:eek:

whadabouchasir

buck65 wrote: »

Where are Clare?:eek:

In Munster,between Galway and Limerick.

DC_Roscommon

My 1-13....

1. Tyrone
2. Dublin
3. Mayo
4. Cork
5. Kildare
6. Kerry
7. Galway
8. Wicklow
9. Antrim
10. Donegal
11. Limerick
12. Meath
13. Roscommon...:D

eagle eye

Colm R wrote: »

Based solely on this years championsip, its fair game to put Dublin ahead of Cork. If we performed like we could against Limerick, then perhaps we would be in second.

That said, if this is based solely on this years championship so far, then Kerry would not be in 5th.

Why? Because they have beaten a bunch or unproven teams the same as last year?

Imo Kerry should be ranked no.2 or 3 at the very least after Tyrone and possibly Cork. Mayo have a right to be in the top 5 along with Dublin and you can have them either way as its hard to predict how a match between them would go. Galway are about right at 7 but Antrim are way underrated and should be no.8 imo.

Spiritoftheseventies

No would think Dublin are number two at the moment. Of course it always seems to go wrong in August for us. Hard to think we have not been in a final since 1995. Before that we were getting to them on a fairly regular basis.

Het-Field

On pedigree, Kerry and Tyrone should be 1 and 2. After that Cork, Dublin and Mayo make up the top five in whatever order.

Galway are probably in around 7th. However, I feel that the likes of Kildare will have to prove even more in the naxt game or two.

homerjay2005

form is temporary, class is permanent. theres a few twists and turns yet due this summer

on current form no, but overall, the top 3 are Kerry, Tyrone and Cork in no particular order with Dublin next. the rest are a long way back, just cos a team is winning, does mean mean they are a better team than somebody else, its all on the day and whos on form at the time. mayo have nothing achieved yet to get anywhere near the top 4.

emc2

I think that it's obovious enough that the top four are going to be the teams that won their Provincial title. Most have won at least 2 games and at least one against one of the other remaining teams.
I was in clones last weekend and have to say it will take a great performance to beat Tyrone, they never got out of second gear and won the match easily.

Spiritoftheseventies

Het-Field wrote: »

On pedigree, Kerry and Tyrone should be 1 and 2. After that Cork, Dublin and Mayo make up the top five in whatever order.

Galway are probably in around 7th. However, I feel that the likes of Kildare will have to prove even more in the naxt game or two.

what form have Kerry shown so far. Struggled in second half against Longford and Sligo should have beaten them. Without Donaghy, they dont seem to be nearly as good.

soccymonster

homerjay2005 wrote: »

form is temporary, class is permanent. theres a few twists and turns yet due this summer

on current form no, but overall, the top 3 are Kerry, Tyrone and Cork in no particular order with Dublin next. the rest are a long way back, just cos a team is winning, does mean mean they are a better team than somebody else, its all on the day and whos on form at the time. mayo have nothing achieved yet to get anywhere near the top 4.

mayo not anywhere near the top 4 is abit over-the-top, dont ya think? Why is cork in the top 3 if mayo arent anywhere near the top 4? I dont see cork winning AI medals. They beat an off-form kerry team (as you can see from qualifier performances) and then won the provincial by the skin of their teeth to a limerick team that they were supposed to have disposed of. Mayo are close to the same level as cork in my opinion.
Both teams have achieved enough to be in the top 5. mayo winning connacht obviously isnt enough for them to be in your top 4 yet cork winning munster is??

K-9

soccymonster wrote: »

mayo not anywhere near the top 4 is abit over-the-top, dont ya think? Why is cork in the top 3 if mayo arent anywhere near the top 4? I dont see cork winning AI medals. They beat an off-form kerry team (as you can see from qualifier performances) and then won the provincial by the skin of their teeth to a limerick team that they were supposed to have disposed of. Mayo are close to the same level as cork in my opinion.
Both teams have achieved enough to be in the top 5. mayo winning connacht obviously isnt enough for them to be in your top 4 yet cork winning munster is??

Probably a bit early to be doing a rating. The Championship has really been all over the place. Cork hammered Kerry and it seems that wasn't as great a result as most thought. Limerick in fairness, are a hard team to beat on their day.

Dublin only really got tested by Kildare and Tyrone just breezed through Ulster in second gear.

Mayo hammering Roscommon was a freak result as the Galway game showed.

It's all over the place. Donegal could be in a Q/F if they win tomorrow!

smashey

K-9 wrote: »

It's all over the place. Donegal could be in a Q/F if they win tomorrow!

Now now K-9, remember when I posted about being the eternal optimist when it comes to Donegal?

We will be in the quarter finals after tomorrow.

I'll be in Sligo to bask in the glory of it all.

Mr. Incognito

Oh God- not this nonsense again- Mayo over Kerry?
This guy is a moron. Dublin the second best team in the country?

God the bandwagon gets jumped on this time every year- last year Tyrone were dead and buried and now they are invincible- right- I'll be back to this thread in September to point and laugh.

gpjordanf1

My 2 c's

1. Tyrone
2. Cork
3. Mayo
4. Kerry
5. Dublin
6. Galway
7. Kildare
8. Wicklow
9. Donegal
10. Limerick
11. Meath
12. Antrim
13. Roscommon

Het-Field

K-9 wrote: »

Probably a bit early to be doing a rating. The Championship has really been all over the place. Cork hammered Kerry and it seems that wasn't as great a result as most thought. Limerick in fairness, are a hard team to beat on their day.

Dublin only really got tested by Kildare and Tyrone just breezed through Ulster in second gear.

Mayo hammering Roscommon was a freak result as the Galway game showed.

It's all over the place. Donegal could be in a Q/F if they win tomorrow!

I didnt know you got you Masters Degree from the University of Stating the bleedin obvious ?

Donegal could pose a shock or two.

I think Mayo are bieng oversold, and they are not nerely as good as people are letting on.

wow sierra

This is all a bit surreal for us Rossies - its nearly August and we are still in the Championship!!! And looking like a possibility for a Quarter Final place. I know everyone thinks we deserve to be at 13 in that list but the scary thing is where the two teams we have to play are placed. Its all making us dare to dream - I know it might turn to a nightmare, but even if it does it was good while it lasted.
And by the way to Keith Barr - we can't put two good performances back to back????? We won a REPLY???? I know you haven't been following Ross football Keith, but at least call us crap in an informed way or say nothing. We played better in the Drawn game, so I hope your theory is right, and we will improve on the Replay display the next day.:D


The list as I see it by the way;)

1. Tyrone
2. Cork
3. Mayo
4. Kerry
5. Dublin
6. Galway
7. Donegal
8. Kildare
9. Antrim
10. Meath
11 Wicklow
12. Roscommon
13. Limerick

corny

I think any list starts and ends with Tyrone. The rest are playing catch up and ALL have something to prove.

Dublin: Have played well to date and IMO look a far better team under Pat Gilroy. Having said that people are well within their rights to question their record in the latter stages.

Kerry: Something is amiss. Rumours that Gooch could be dropped aren't a good sign. Their forwards have been impotent this year and people are right to question their desire. Very capable of turning back time and giving most a footballing lesson.

Cork: You could say about Cork what people have said for years about Dublin, they've beat nothing so far. Remains to be seen how they put it together at Croker too but no one will fancy playing them.

Mayo: I like what i've seen from Mayo so far. They've lots of fine footballers and are capable. Remains to be seen if their best is truly good enough though.

Galway and Kildare: Will need very favourable draws to go all the way IMO. Can't see either winning Sam but they can cause an upset.

Astonished if one these doesn't win it.

spongeman

WTF.

Why are Wicklow not number one ?


GO ON THE GARDEN COUNTY.

K-9

Het-Field wrote: »

I didnt know you got you Masters Degree from the University of Stating the bleedin obvious ?

Donegal could pose a shock or two.

I think Mayo are bieng oversold, and they are not nerely as good as people are letting on.

We'd have taken it a month ago! We could pose a shock or 2 from now on, but could collapse too!

Mayo are similar to Donegal and Galway and indeed Dublin. The questions will be answered tomorrow to an extent for Donegal and Galway and in the Quarter Finals, depending on the draw. Mayos collapse doesn't inspire me with confidence. Donegal had the same problem against Derry.

Omnomnom

Fcuk that! UP THE BANNER!

eagle eye

Het-Field wrote: »

I didnt know you got you Masters Degree from the University of Stating the bleedin obvious ?

Donegal could pose a shock or two.

I think Mayo are bieng oversold, and they are not nerely as good as people are letting on.

What do you mean by the last bit?

I think they are hard to judge, last year they ran Tyrone very close and they have improved this year. Its a question of whether Tyrone had an off day or if Mayo are that good. I don't think anybody is rating them that highly, well outside of Mayo people. They do have John O'Mahony in charge of them and he certainly knows what it takes to win an All-Ireland so Mayo people have every right to be optimistic with the state of the teams so far this year.
I'm finding it very hard to rate them though, similar to Dublin. I mean Dublin have beaten nobody of note yet. Both are top 5 though but after Tyrone who are clearly the no.1 team at present and then Cork and Kerry have to be the next two.

DARK-KNIGHT

DC_Roscommon wrote: »

My 1-13....

1. Tyrone
2. Dublin
3. Mayo
4. Cork
5. Kildare
6. Kerry
7. Galway
8. Wicklow
9. Antrim
10. Donegal
11. Limerick
12. Meath
13. Roscommon...:D

swap dublin and kildare around and your list is bang on CILL DARA ABU! honestly though how can people put that dublin team second? kildare were only lacking in playing on the big stage to beat em i think kildare were very unlucky but you never know we might get them again

Spiritoftheseventies

raycaulwell wrote: »

swap dublin and kildare around and your list is bang on CILL DARA ABU! honestly though how can people put that dublin team second? kildare were only lacking in playing on the big stage to beat em i think kildare were very unlucky but you never know we might get them again

Take your Kildare hat off for a second. You gave us a good game. But you faded away in the last ten minutes. It will be the same result if two teams meet up again.

grenache

wow sierra wrote: »

This is all a bit surreal for us Rossies - its nearly August and we are still in the Championship!!! And looking like a possibility for a Quarter Final place. I know everyone thinks we deserve to be at 13 in that list but the scary thing is where the two teams we have to play are placed. Its all making us dare to dream - I know it might turn to a nightmare, but even if it does it was good while it lasted.
And by the way to Keith Barr - we can't put two good performances back to back????? We won a REPLY???? I know you haven't been following Ross football Keith, but at least call us crap in an informed way or say nothing. We played better in the Drawn game, so I hope your theory is right, and we will improve on the Replay display the next day.:D


The list as I see it by the way;)

1. Tyrone
2. Cork
3. Mayo
4. Kerry
5. Dublin
6. Galway
7. Donegal
8. Kildare
9. Antrim
10. Meath
11 Wicklow
12. Roscommon
13. Limerick

Roscommon, Wicklow and Antrim all above Limerick? Wishful thinking there.

Whyno

i just fixed all your posts as i know ya's werent thinking straight. The top 13 you all know is true goes like this:

1.Wicklow
2.Wicklow
3.Wicklow
4.Wicklow
5.Wicklow
6.Wicklow
7.Wicklow
8.Wicklow
9.Wicklow
10.Wicklow
11.Wicklow
12.Wicklow
13.Tyrone

curry-muff

Id put donegal ahead of meath limerick wicklow and antrim.

Whyno

curry-muff wrote: »

Id put donegal ahead of meath limerick wicklow and antrim.

Because of one good performance this year!!! The jury is still out on this donegal team and if the take care of galway today well then we'll put them up a notch or two.

grenache

curry-muff wrote: »

Id put donegal ahead of meath limerick wicklow and antrim.

I'd agree with you there. They do have an awful habit of imploding on the day though.

K-9

curry-muff wrote: »

Id put donegal ahead of meath limerick wicklow and antrim.

We probably are, but we have to prove it this year.

yerayeah

I'd go with:

1 - Tyrone
*daylight*
2 - Cork
3 - Dublin
4 - Mayo
5 - Kildare
6 - Kerry
7 - Galway
8 - Limerick
9 - Antrim
10 - Donegal
11 - Wicklow
12 - Meath
13 - Roscommon

Lot of disrespect towards Limerick here, I'd be very surprised if they don't make it to CP this year...

Het-Field

yerayeah wrote: »

I'd go with:

1 - Tyrone
*daylight*
2 - Cork
3 - Dublin
4 - Mayo
5 - Kildare
6 - Kerry
7 - Galway
8 - Limerick
9 - Antrim
10 - Donegal
11 - Wicklow
12 - Meath
13 - Roscommon

Lot of disrespect towards Limerick here, I'd be very surprised if they don't make it to CP this year...

I think Donegal and Limerick are being highly underrated. Particularly the latter. No doubt Roscommon are the weakest, while I am still interested to know if Meath really have anything in the tank (beating Waterford, and Westmeath is no accolade (particularly the former)


As I have said, Kerry's pedigree makes them deserving incumbents of the second spot. Wrtiting them off would be the height of stupidity. However, I would still maintain Tyrone are sufficiently ahead of the pack.


My final attempt at my top 13 after various sketchings and considerations

No doubt that the top five are Tyrone,Kerry,Cork,Dublin and Mayo. The next three positions must be held by any combination of Kildare,Galway, and Limerick. The Men from Wicklow,Donegal and Antrim would take up the next postions, while Meath are number 12 (with a serious scope to improve). Roscommon are bottom.

DARK-KNIGHT

bayviewclose wrote: »

Take your Kildare hat off for a second. You gave us a good game. But you faded away in the last ten minutes. It will be the same result if two teams meet up again.

kildare hat is now off! BTW i think occasion got to kildare with the last leinster final we were part of was 2003 me thinks!

kildare will beat that dublin team im sure of it if we get another chance!!!

why is it that dublin are so overated?

i really would have dublin 5th wait till they play a tyrone or cork and it will be the same as every other year!

anyways it doesnt matter whats done is done kildare team were crushed over losing the leinster but i know they are looking onwards and not with a view to an early rest this summer!

BTW im delighted for cork football at the minute, they have come out from behind kerrys shadow congratulations!

wicklow i have been so impressed also micko is a legend!

so let down with kerry performances but at least they are trying to shake the side up to try and fix the rot this year lol (the rot) they could still win it and they are not up to much lol!

anyways good luck to all!!!!!

Ray;)

smashey

smashey wrote: »

Now now K-9, remember when I posted about being the eternal optimist when it comes to Donegal?

We will be in the quarter finals after tomorrow.

I'll be in Sligo to bask in the glory of it all.

Ahem.

Het-Field

raycaulwell wrote: »

kildare hat is now off! BTW i think occasion got to kildare with the last leinster final we were part of was 2003 me thinks!

kildare will beat that dublin team im sure of it if we get another chance!!!

why is it that dublin are so overated?

i really would have dublin 5th wait till they play a tyrone or cork and it will be the same as every other year!

anyways it doesnt matter whats done is done kildare team were crushed over losing the leinster but i know they are looking onwards and not with a view to an early rest this summer!

BTW im delighted for cork football at the minute, they have come out from behind kerrys shadow congratulations!

wicklow i have been so impressed also micko is a legend!

so let down with kerry performances but at least they are trying to shake the side up to try and fix the rot this year lol (the rot) they could still win it and they are not up to much lol!

anyways good luck to all!!!!!

Ray;)

Maybe in one years time. But not this year. When contextualised, the Leinster Final was a testament to how good Dublin can be as opposed to how good Kildare are. Remember, Dublin were playing with 14 men for the vast majority of the game. 2-15 was a quality score. Had it been the other way around, and Kildare had 14 men, then I would most certainly agree with you.

Again, your predictions about Dublin are symptomatic of a GAA fan with a chip on their shoulder about the Dubs

K-9

smashey wrote: »

Ahem.

Well, I day say weeks ago this could be 2003!

Spiritoftheseventies

Donegal did well in last ten minutes but they have an awful lot to do if they are to make semis. Not many scores from play today. Poor enough game overall.

corny

raycaulwell wrote: »

kildare will beat that dublin team im sure of it if we get another chance!!!

why is it that dublin are so overated?

Really don't know how you can justify the first statement. Kildare played very well, they were just beaten by the better team on the day. The Dubs had 14 men too and still finished stronger. If they played again it would be another good game but Dublin would start deserved favourites and would more than likely confirm their superiority.

BTW no true Dublin GAA man is under any illusion, it would be a huge task for Dublin to beat that Tyrone team. The only people that overrate the Dubs are country people and national newspapers it seems.

siobhan.murphy

corny wrote: »

Really don't know how you can justify the first statement. Kildare played very well, they were just beaten by the better team on the day. The Dubs had 14 men too and still finished stronger. If they played again it would be another good game but Dublin would start deserved favourites and would more than likely confirm their superiority.

BTW no true Dublin GAA man is under any illusion, it would be a huge task for Dublin to beat that Tyrone team. The only people that overrate the Dubs are country people and national newspapers it seems.

"Country people"?- c'mon let's quit this rubbish of the Pale v. everyone else.

DARK-KNIGHT

corny wrote: »

Really don't know how you can justify the first statement. Kildare played very well, they were just beaten by the better team on the day. The Dubs had 14 men too and still finished stronger. If they played again it would be another good game but Dublin would start deserved favourites and would more than likely confirm their superiority.

BTW no true Dublin GAA man is under any illusion, it would be a huge task for Dublin to beat that Tyrone team. The only people that overrate the Dubs are country people and national newspapers it seems.

COUNTRY PEOPLE?????

who do you really think you are? so if you can call everyone else apart from dubs country people can we call you what we want??

any ideas fellow country folk???;)

btw you call yourself a true fan? have you ever played the game? 14 men makes feck all difference in gaelic football now if you lost 2 men then it obviously would! just sounds like a soccer fan making same comment as any soccer fan would about having a man sent off!

also we are irish men and women so stop stirring the pot with the term country people as its a ****ty term to throw around!

grenache

1 - Tyrone
a big gap
2 - Cork
3 - Dublin
4 - Mayo
5 - Kerry
6 - Kildare
7 - Galway
8 - Donegal
9 - Meath
10 - Limerick
11 - Wicklow
12 - Antrim
13 - Roscommon

curry-muff

I really cant understand why people put dublin so high up there

Het-Field

curry-muff wrote: »

I really cant understand why people put dublin so high up there

Ill tell you why you cant understand....because you have a chip on your shoulder

Het-Field

raycaulwell wrote: »

COUNTRY PEOPLE?????

who do you really think you are? so if you can call everyone else apart from dubs country people can we call you what we want??

any ideas fellow country folk???;)

btw you call yourself a true fan? have you ever played the game? 14 men makes feck all difference in gaelic football now if you lost 2 men then it obviously would! just sounds like a soccer fan making same comment as any soccer fan would about having a man sent off!

also we are irish men and women so stop stirring the pot with the term country people as its a ****ty term to throw around!

For god's sake, stop saying that. You saw what happened for the final 20 mins of the first half. The Dubs were in disarray after Brennan was put off.

DARK-KNIGHT

curry-muff wrote: »

I really cant understand why people put dublin so high up there

my problem with the dubs and my only problem with them is this- the hype around a team that are quite good but i really cant see them challenging the likes of tyrone or even cork!

DARK-KNIGHT

Het-Field wrote: »

Ill tell you why you cant understand....because you have a chip on your shoulder

will you give up the chip on your shoulder comments?? FFS 1 question do you think dublin will win this all ireland?

DARK-KNIGHT

Het-Field wrote: »

For god's sake, stop saying that. You saw what happened for the final 20 mins of the first half. The Dubs were in disarray after Brennan was put off.

why? im right though any good team should be able to play effectively with 14 men

Het-Field

raycaulwell wrote: »

will you give up the chip on your shoulder comments?? FFS 1 question do you think dublin will win this all ireland?

No, I dont. But I feel they have the beating of 99% of teams out there, with the exception being Tyrone. I was also more than impressed by the teams performance against Kildare, where they overcame the odds, and beat a decent team, with 14 men on the park. Dublin didnt give up, and went for the jugular. I was impressed, and i feel it is enough proof that they could give Cork, Kerry and Mayo a solid enough game, that they could beat them

Your swanning around on this forum arguing that Kildare will take Dublin out in the next game, with nothing to base it on save for the game two weeks ago. "Fire in the belly" etc doesnt count for much. I ll ask you a question

On what do you base you assertions that Kildare will beat Dublin this year should they meet ?