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The failure and misery of others.

  • 23-07-2009 7:35pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭


    From the man that brought you "Before I go to bed" comes, the failure and misery of others.

    I'm very confident that it's an abhorrent thing to wish failure and misery on others, but when I myself am suffering from the same misery and failure, is it okay to be just a little happy?

    When I was in school and I didn't study for my exams, somehow it became a little easier to handle, as long as a few other people didn't study either and were about to suffer the same fate.

    Over on this thread I'm pretty sure that at least ten people took a certain, cruel, joy in the fact that this chap had once lost 10, 000 euro...it made them feel better for whatever they had lost at some point in their lives.

    So are there only a handful of people on this earth, say our spouses and our parents, that we want true happiness for? I mean, would you really be happy if your best friend won the lotto? Of course you wouldn't, you'd be as jealous as fuck.

    So, is it true to say that we kind of enjoy the misery of others, as long as that misery is not as serious as something like death or grave illness.

    Go on...admit it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭Prof.Badass


    From the man that brought you "Before I go to bed" comes, the failure and misery of others.

    I'm very confident that it's an abhorrent thing to wish failure and misery on others, but when I myself am suffering from the same misery and failure, is it okay to be just a little happy?

    When I was in school and I didn't study for my exams, somehow it became a little easier to handle, as long as a few other people didn't study either and were about to suffer the same fate.

    Over on this thread I'm pretty sure that at least ten people took a certain, cruel, joy in the fact that this chap had once lost 10, 000 euro...it made them feel better for whatever they had lost at some point in their lives.

    So are there only a handful of people on this earth, say our spouses and our parents, that we want true happiness for? I mean, would you really be happy if your best friend won the lotto? Of course you wouldn't, you'd be as jealous as fuck.

    So, is it true to say that we kind of enjoy the misery of others, as long as that misery is not as serious as something like death or grave illness.

    Go on...admit it.

    How successful we feel is based entirely on the relative successes of others.

    I remember reading that families didn't become happier when their wealth increased along with every other family's (i.e improving economic conditions), but when their wealth increased relative to their neighbours it did have an effect on their happiness.

    From an evolutionary point of view it makes a lot of sense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Judicious use of the word schadenfreude could have reduced your OP size by 50%. :)

    I do enjoy the misery of others, but only people that I feel deserve it. Not people who are just successful or happy per-se.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    What a big fail today, eh? lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    Today a black woman in town walked straight into a clear glass window in the shopping centre.

    It took several minutes for people to help lift her up and plug her bleeding nose as im told they were too busy tryiing to find pain killers to dull the pain of their broken ribs from laughing.

    Irish people love other peoples pain


  • Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    TL;DR


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭abouttobebanned


    What a big fail today, eh? lol

    Resolution. Gonna turn after hours into my daily blog ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,321 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    I find that with my exams. I'm gonna fail, but if one of my friends is gonna fail too, i don't feel so bad!

    Weird!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    stovelid wrote: »
    Judicious use of the word schadenfreude could have reduced your OP size by 50%. :)

    I do enjoy the misery of others, but only people that I feel deserve it. Not people who are just successful or happy per-se.

    Its good to condescend to people about shit you learned on The Simpsons =p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I always laugh when I see little kids hurt themselves in those TV bloopers shows. Little kids are so stupid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,226 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    snyper wrote: »
    Today a black woman in town walked straight into a clear glass window in the shopping centre.

    It took several minutes for people to help lift her up and plug her bleeding nose as im told they were too busy tryiing to find pain killers to dull the pain of their broken ribs from laughing.

    Irish people love other peoples pain

    I see what you sneaked in there.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 85 ✭✭Good Karma


    I really think if you are truly fulfilled, it doesn't matter if your best friend arrives in a new 7 series!
    I think the trick is......finding what truly fulfills us, that's the hard part! If we do not feel like we are lacking anything, we can't feel hard done by or annomosity to those who have a new gain!

    I'm really fulfilled and would be delighted to see any of my friends win the lotto, etc - believe it or not, the choice is most certainly yours!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,405 ✭✭✭Dartz


    Scadenfreude is the best Freude.

    Comes from the time when if the Lion got that other australopithicine, the Lion wasn't going to get you, so you could happily go **** his mate and have many babies to evolve into you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭Stercus Accidit


    Its good to condescend to people about shit you learned on The Simpsons =p

    How cromulent of you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭siobhank


    I do secretly love when somebody who has always annoyed you (especially arrogant workmates) get taken down a peg or two. Preferably by someone in authority, and in public. Tee hee!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    From the man that brought you "Before I go to bed" comes, the failure and misery of others.

    I'm very confident that it's an abhorrent thing to wish failure and misery on others, but when I myself am suffering from the same misery and failure, is it okay to be just a little happy?

    When I was in school and I didn't study for my exams, somehow it became a little easier to handle, as long as a few other people didn't study either and were about to suffer the same fate.

    Over on this thread I'm pretty sure that at least ten people took a certain, cruel, joy in the fact that this chap had once lost 10, 000 euro...it made them feel better for whatever they had lost at some point in their lives.

    So are there only a handful of people on this earth, say our spouses and our parents, that we want true happiness for? I mean, would you really be happy if your best friend won the lotto? Of course you wouldn't, you'd be as jealous as fuck.

    So, is it true to say that we kind of enjoy the misery of others, as long as that misery is not as serious as something like death or grave illness.

    Go on...admit it.
    I'll be honest. That's a lot of words OP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭abouttobebanned


    Is a lot of words coherently strung together not allowed on After Hours? Kind of embarrassing to point out that there were too many words so you couldn't read it...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Its good to condescend to people about shit you learned on The Simpsons =p

    I was pretty close to thanking you in a craven attempt to mask my confusion, but thought better of it. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭Stercus Accidit


    Is a lot of words coherently strung together not allowed on After Hours? Kind of embarrassing to point out that there were too many words so you couldn't read it...

    Could you sum that up in fewer words OP, something shiny caught my attention and I was distra


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭abouttobebanned


    everyone just trying to earn a bit of thanks...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,758 ✭✭✭Stercus Accidit


    everyone just trying to earn a bit of thanks...

    Thanks aren't earned, they are taken.

    First you get the thanks, then you get the women, then you get the underpants, ??????, profit.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,226 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Thanks aren't earned, they are taken.

    First you get the thanks, then you get the women, then you get the underpants, ??????, profit.

    That's the trouble with lady-boys.


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