WHY OH WHY!!

jinka

What is it with people in this country? Does this happen to you aswell?

People out walking in 2s or 3s who take up the whole path and not having the manners or common decency to move in as you run towards them. Then if you do try to stand your ground you get a mouthful of ignorant abuse about "I have as much right as you blah blah..."
I mean its not like us skinny runners take up much space!

Munster_Gal

jinka wrote: »

What is it with people in this country? Does this happen to you aswell?

People out walking in 2s or 3s who take up the whole path and not having the manners or common decency to move in as you run towards them. Then if you do try to stand your ground you get a mouthful of ignorant abuse about "I have as much right as you blah blah..."
I mean its not like us skinny runners take up much space!

Yep people are like that alright :mad:

jinka

Not any more
Next time they will be dealt with!

mloc123

All will be back to normal in a month, evenings will be dark again and the rain and wind will keep them in

mikemac

jinka wrote: »

People out walking in 2s or 3s who take up the whole path and not having the manners or common decency to move in as you run towards them. Then if you do try to stand your ground you get a mouthful of ignorant abuse about "I have as much right as you blah blah..."

Were their arms swinging all over the place? Nearly get a punch?

I reckon they burn more calories from swinging their arms then their "powerwalking" which realy isn't that fast at all most of the time.

RacoonQueen

jinka wrote: »

What is it with people in this country? Does this happen to you aswell?

People out walking in 2s or 3s who take up the whole path and not having the manners or common decency to move in as you run towards them. Then if you do try to stand your ground you get a mouthful of ignorant abuse about "I have as much right as you blah blah..."
I mean its not like us skinny runners take up much space!

It's just ignorance, they don't move out of the way when you walk towards them either even though they're the ones taking up the whole path.

gerard65

Agree Jinka, I noticed this over the last few years. Even when I'm just walking along the street and two people are coming in the other direction you'd think one would step in and let you pass - na, they'd perfer you step out into on coming traffic. Its a lack of manners and selfishness in the 'celtic cub' generation.

run like a fox

Aren't we all a bunch of moaning Michaels this evening.

I think it's great that there's people out and about cycling, walking and jogging taking up the paths these days. The more active the better. Why not just jog around them? A quick step onto the road and back onto the path and all is good.

osnola ibax

run like a fox wrote: »

Aren't we all a bunch of moaning Michaels this evening.

I think it's great that there's people out and about cycling, walking and jogging taking up the paths these days. The more active the better. Why not just jog around them? A quick step onto the road and back onto the path and all is good.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

jinka

No its because when it happens every bloody day it will get to you.
Anyway this board is for ranting...RANT RANT!!

there - thats better......

menoscemo

Recently I've been practcising the 'stare out' technique, look one them right in the eye from 30 yards as you are approaching, do not deviate from your course and see who moves first. This technique is particularly satisfying when used on groups of teenage kids with hoodies.

gerard65

run like a fox wrote: »

. Why not just jog around them? A quick step onto the road and back onto the path and all is good.

Ever been hit by a bus? Me neither , but anyone taking your advice sooner or later would be:(

osnola ibax

When you are approaching walking wimmins, when you are about 10 - 15 yards away, start running like an absolute mad man straight at them, flailing arms and shouting EXCUSE ME! EXCUSE ME ! they'll move.

jinka

osnola ivax wrote: »

When you are approaching walking wimmins, when you are about 10 - 15 yards away, start running like an absolute mad man straight at them, flailing arms and shouting EXCUSE ME! EXCUSE ME ! they'll move.

Haha,
Can you imagine it ?

Do not perform this near a certain " hospital " in Dundrum or you might just get taken in!

plodder

This has happened to me a bit. I suppose you have to slow down to give them a chance to move, but on occasion, I've barreled through, brushing off shoulders. Wouldn't knock anyone over now, but enough to make a point.

gerard65

LOL, that would work, but what would you tell the judge when your up for attempted assault?

plodder

Ah yeah In fairness I only remember actually hitting someone once. More often I'd slow down and basically stop, but seriously nobody should be obliged to step off the pavement. The sight of a sweaty runner not getting out of the way, is usually enough in my experience.

run like a fox

gerard65 wrote: »

Ever been hit by a bus? Me neither , but anyone taking your advice sooner or later would be:(

Ok - use a bit of common sense. Slow down when approaching people and say "excuse me" - people will move with a polite approach. If you treat people with a bit of respect they will treat you the same. Runners do not have the right of way. The OP saying "standing your ground" comes across as being very rude and of course the people walking will say they have as much right to be there if treated like that.

Bally8

OOOHH this is one of my major pet peevs. It drives me mad. I always push in for other people or step out of their way. Some days I get sick of it and wait to see if they will push in a bit, but they rarely do. People!!!! GRRRRR

rigal

run like a fox wrote: »

Ok - use a bit of common sense. Slow down when approaching people and say "excuse me" - people will move with a polite approach. If you treat people with a bit of respect they will treat you the same. Runners do not have the right of way. The OP saying "standing your ground" comes across as being very rude and of course the people walking will say they have as much right to be there if treated like that.

It doesn't work... If 2 or more walkers are side by side on a narrow pavement then they should go into single file when another walker or runner is approaching - that is common sense. I've tried the "excuse me" tactic and they're usually too busy yapping to each other to hear you.

It always women too btw. My girlfriend thought I was just a moaning sexist before she started running and now she has witnessed it first hand. She nearly went over on her ankle while making a diversion onto the road to avoid a few power walkers last week.

I'm not proud of it but when I was coming to the end of a tempo run a while back I was fairly shattered and 2 women wouldn't give me any space. I was clearly knackered and yet they still made me run off the pavement onto a narrow country road with busy traffic. I ended up muttering FFS as I passed them. I had the ipod on so it might have been more of a shout..

Anyway - there's my rant. Jinka you're spot on.. walkers need to wake up and learn some manners...

jinka

run like a fox wrote: »

Ok - use a bit of common sense. Slow down when approaching people and say "excuse me" - people will move with a polite approach. If you treat people with a bit of respect they will treat you the same. Runners do not have the right of way. The OP saying "standing your ground" comes across as being very rude and of course the people walking will say they have as much right to be there if treated like that.

Are you serious!!??
The only rude people are the ones taking up the path 2/3/4 abreast
Im not talking one on one here. It is common decencey to go single file.

abi2007

Best way to deal with this is too look down or at your phone or watch but not at them, if they think your not paying attention they'll move out of the way, If not you'll bump in to them trust me everyone moves out of the way! tried and tested method. Stand your ground

osnola ibax

jinka wrote: »

Are you serious!!??
The only rude peope are the ones taking up the path 2/3/4 abreast
Im not talking one on one here. It is common decencey to go single file.

But they are having a really important conversation, surely you should be more understanding of their needs, and step out in front of a car.

(sorry, sarcasm helps with the anger)

osnola ibax

abi2007 wrote: »

Best way to deal with this is too look down or at your phone or watch but not at them, if they think your not paying attention they'll move out of the way, If not you'll bump in to them trust me everyone moves out of the way! tried and tested method. Stand your ground

Ooh that's good

abi2007

rigal wrote: »

It always women too btw.

Like the bingo ball 88 (two fat ladies)

BeepBeep67

abi2007 wrote: »

Best way to deal with this is too look down or at your phone or watch but not at them, if they think your not paying attention they'll move out of the way, If not you'll bump in to them trust me everyone moves out of the way! tried and tested method. Stand your ground

+1, works for me , don't make eye contact, head down, unplanned fartlek session - they'll move;)

spaceylou

I used to think it was normal (ie everywhere is the same) but I swear its an Irish thing.....and the same with s*** heads shouting abuse at ya cause your a bit sweaty....since Feburary I've been out of Ireland for most of my time first in Belgium and now in Melbourne and people are definately far more likely to move to let you pass or to go into single file if there is a group of people taking up their path. And yet us Irish have a reputation for being a friendly welcoming bunch of people - what happened?

run like a fox

Seriously people. Get over yourselves. You are not kings of the footpaths. Shouting at people while you're running? not looking and just running at them? "Standing your ground"! You sound like a bunch of a$$holes. Spaceylou, you complain about people in Ireland shouting abuse at you as you run, well I'm not surprised they do considering the attitude the runners here have towards pedestrains - and feel justified!

liamo

run like a fox wrote: »

Ok - use a bit of common sense. Slow down when approaching people and say "excuse me" - people will move with a polite approach. If you treat people with a bit of respect they will treat you the same. Runners do not have the right of way. The OP saying "standing your ground" comes across as being very rude and of course the people walking will say they have as much right to be there if treated like that.

+1

"Excuse me" always works for me and a little wave and a "Thank you" as you pass doesn't hurt either.

Apart from winding up the pedestrians you only wind yourself up as well by acting aggressively. I don't want to come home from a run feeling like I should punch someone. Not a good end to a run - it's supposed to be enjoyable. Relax! Breathe .......

RoyMcC

+2 I've been running in and around Dublin for 18 months or so and haven't had these issues. Just chill and accept the existence of others and smile and enjoy your sport.

thirtyfoot

Jaysus, if this is one of the by products of the running boom, bring back the running recession:o

I would always be the apologetic one if approaching a group of people walking, seems like simple manners as you are going faster. Hammering through them is lowering to their level (if you believe they are being ignorant in the first place) but hey if it makes you happy and you feel you have exerted your authority on the situation, all power to you;)

People on a running track, thats different and does deserve the fly by treatment:D

Forgot to add - if a jogger hammered through me as I was walking, I would possibly chase after you, inevitably catch up and give you a good kick up the hole:D Of course I wouldn't as that would be lowering to your level but I'd probably chase after you, jog along side and explain what I said above!

Poncherello

I use the look down at watch method and it works most of the time.
But you need to be careful, a small bump can cause a major injury.

Its definitely an Irish thing, the paths in the Phoenix Park are woeful for it.

thirtyfoot

Poncherello wrote: »

I use the look down at watch method and it works most of the time.
But you need to be careful, a small bump can cause a major injury.

Its definitely an Irish thing, the paths in the Phoenix Park are woeful for it.

This has intrigued me that people may do this.

I'm going to head down to Phoenix Park (with a few friends) and walk the paths waiting for skinny runners coming against me. When they approach we will hold (like William Wallace requested in Braveheart) and then when it seems they are about to give the gentle nudge I will respond with a perfectly timed nudge of my own (of the type a corner back gives a sub when he comes on in a hurling match, you know the 'hows it going and welcome to the game' type of nudge/shoulder) which will send the 9 stones sprawling like an overpaid football prima donna. Could be a new sport, Jogger Belting, could be a uniquely Irish sport.

Stupid_Private

Tingle wrote: »

I'm going to head down to Phoenix Park (with a few friends) and walk the paths waiting for skinny runners coming against me. When they approach we will hold (like William Wallace requested in Braveheart) and then when it seems they are about to give the gentle nudge I will respond with a perfectly timed nudge of my own (of the type a corner back gives a sub when he comes on in a hurling match, you know the 'hows it going and welcome to the game' type of nudge/shoulder) which will send the 9 stones sprawling like an overpaid football prima donna. Could be a new sport, Jogger Belting, could be a uniquely Irish sport.

A flawed plan Tingle. Any jogger in the Phoenix park with half a brain would realise that there's grass beside every footpath in the park. When approaching a "path hogger" (booooo walkers!), they can jog on the grass, pass those blasted walkers, and come back on to their rightful path, rather than starting a battle for territory.

Is this board becoming a place to vent ones frustrations? I run because I enjoy it and I feel quite relaxed when out and about. If we're not complaining about slow runners at races, its cyclists, walkers or dogs. Just go out and enjoy it - destress yourself on the run.

thirtyfoot

Stupid_Private wrote: »

A flawed plan Tingle. Any jogger in the Phoenix park with half a brain would realise that there's grass beside every footpath in the park. When approaching a "path hogger" (booooo walkers!), they can jog on the grass, pass those blasted walkers, and come back on to their rightful path, rather than starting a battle for territory.

Hadn't thought of that. May pre-empt that by selling a dummy as they approach so as to giude them back into the centre of the path so that my walking partners can give them a sandwich. Could become quite an art form. Joggers pummelling towards you, making eye contact, second guessing will they go left or right. I feint right, they go right but double side step back to escape my clutches. Not all would be so clever and we would get many.

Jogger training would have to change to be able to handle the new found aggression of walkers though. They will not only have to be able to run straight but will have to start looking at improving their lateral movements, side stepping liking Jamie Heaslip, working on the timing of the movement of the sidestep onto the grass and also improving their upper body bulk so as to handle the collisions. Could change the sport, not sure for the better though.

BeepBeep67

Tingle wrote: »

Jogger training would have to change to be able to handle the new found aggression of walkers though. They will not only have to be able to run straight but will have to start looking at improving their lateral movements, side stepping liking Jamie Heaslip, working on the timing of the movement of the sidestep onto the grass and also improving their upper body bulk so as to handle the collisions. Could change the sport, not sure for the better though.

Sounds like a new technique to build core while running, you could have a book, DVD, etc in the making there Tingle :cool:

shels4ever

Tingle wrote: »

Hadn't thought of that. May pre-empt that by selling a dummy as they approach so as to giude them back into the centre of the path so that my walking partners can give them a sandwich. Could become quite an art form. Joggers pummelling towards you, making eye contact, second guessing will they go left or right. I feint right, they go right but double side step back to escape my clutches. Not all would be so clever and we would get many.

Jogger training would have to change to be able to handle the new found aggression of walkers though. They will not only have to be able to run straight but will have to start looking at improving their lateral movements, side stepping liking Jamie Heaslip, working on the timing of the movement of the sidestep onto the grass and also improving their upper body bulk so as to handle the collisions. Could change the sport, not sure for the better though.

Also going over or under dog leads, the extendable ones are the best to catch runners...

MrCreosote

It's even more annoying when you're cycling on the footpath and there's a group of walkers in the way. Especially when going downhill. I'm thinking of turning my aero helmet pointy forward to scare them off...

thirtyfoot

BeepBeep67 wrote: »

Sounds like a new technique to build core while running, you could have a book, DVD, etc in the making there Tingle :cool:

Yes, could be a money spinner.

-Chi Jogger Belting
-High Intensity Jogger Belting Interval Training - HIJBIT
-Kettle Bells For Jogger Belting
-CrossFist - hitting techniques for Jogger Belters.

Shadyladee

Im finding this "them v's us" mind set very interesting! To be honest, its nothing to do with whether some one is a jogger, runner or walker some people perhaps are bit ignorant or oblivious but its got nothing to do with what activity they are involved in or gender they are. I dont suddenly change personality when im walking versus when Im jogging! Im just the type of person that seems to always get out of the way for other people, hence why I seem to get smacked in the face with tree branches often and nearly get knocked down by cars!

HardyEustace

shels4ever wrote: »

Also going over or under dog leads, the extendable ones are the best to catch runners...

Those extendable dog leads <<shakes big fist>>, a CURSE on them.

TFBubendorfer

Tingle wrote: »

Forgot to add - if a jogger hammered through me as I was walking, I would possibly chase after you, inevitably catch up and give you a good kick up the hole:D Of course I wouldn't as that would be lowering to your level but I'd probably chase after you, jog along side and explain what I said above!

I thought that through - it doesn't work. If you're fast enough to catch them it means they're heavier, and you'd be ill advised to either start a fight or to start lecturing them.

If, on the other hand, they're really light and skinny then you won't be able to catch them and won't get the chance to throw a punch/kick.

tunguska

jinka wrote: »

What is it with people in this country? Does this happen to you aswell?

People out walking in 2s or 3s who take up the whole path and not having the manners or common decency to move in as you run towards them. Then if you do try to stand your ground you get a mouthful of ignorant abuse about "I have as much right as you blah blah..."
I mean its not like us skinny runners take up much space!

Agree 100%. But whats even worse is people out walking their dogs using those leads that extend about 30 metres. So youre running along and the person is taking up one side of the path while the dog and lead are taking up the other side. Complete ignorance and no thought given for anybody else

thirtyfoot

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

I thought that through - it doesn't work. If you're fast enough to catch them it means they're heavier, and you'd be ill advised to either start a fight or to start lecturing them.

If, on the other hand, they're really light and skinny then you won't be able to catch them and won't get the chance to throw a punch/kick.

No, I have thought it through. I do shorter stuff so any person out jogging/running shouldn't be able to take me over a distance of of up to say 600m. So, I have maybe 400m to turn and catch up and then spend 200m lecturing or 600m if I want to just give the kick up the hole. That takes care of the skinny ones.

The heavier, bigger ones will be taken care of using the GAA style counter-shoulder. The shock of the shoulder will give me enough time to escape without a beating.

plodder

run like a fox wrote: »

Seriously people. Get over yourselves. You are not kings of the footpaths. Shouting at people while you're running? not looking and just running at them? "Standing your ground"! You sound like a bunch of a$$holes. Spaceylou, you complain about people in Ireland shouting abuse at you as you run, well I'm not surprised they do considering the attitude the runners here have towards pedestrains - and feel justified!

In fairness, I think an amount of this is tongue in cheek, but I'll always maintain that neither pedestrians nor runners should have to step out in front of traffic because a group of people are taking up the whole path. There's an onus on everybody to be courteous and to accommodate each other and runners definitely should slow down to a walk if necessary. "standing your ground" just means not allowing yourself to be pushed off the path. Hardly that big a deal I think.

Though if someone could send me a photo of Tingle, I'd be obliged, because I'll probably step onto the road for him all right :pac:

DangerMouse27

Kettle balls for jogger belting would really take off as soon as you developed those mountain gorilla arms to carry the things while running!

Just run around them and feel glorious when you look like some gazelle in your own mind as you canter around them...or as they will see it,some heaving mess having difficulty overtaking some walkers!

Just run around them..its like a traffic crossing..i silently curse the cars that are crawling around some roundabout and im having to wait until they pass me so i can cross to the other side.
There is no right or wrong.
Go running with a mountain lion

thirtyfoot

plodder wrote: »

Though if someone could send me a photo of Tingle, I'd be obliged, because I'll probably step onto the road for him all right :pac:

I'm skinny and weak, can't even do one chip up and am all talk. I would never curse or chase after anyone, I'd just come on here and give out about it;)

Cartman78

Don't mind walkers so much - if they genuinely don't hear you approach then there's not really a whole lot you can do.

One of the biggest offenders IMO are I-Pod-wearing-dog-walkers-with-30m-extendable-leads, but what drives me bananas altogether are bikes on footpaths. Seriously that's what the fricking roads are for!!!:mad:

If Chi Jogger Belting ever gets off the ground, the product testing should be done on footpath hogging cyclists

run like a fox

plodder wrote: »

In fairness, I think an amount of this is tongue in cheek, but I'll always maintain that neither pedestrians nor runners should have to step out in front of traffic because a group of people are taking up the whole path.

It's become a bit light hearted in the last few pages but the thread started with an air of elitism that said "we are better than walkers". To quote yourself from earlier:

plodder wrote: »

on occasion, I've barreled through, brushing off shoulders. Wouldn't knock anyone over now, but enough to make a point.

Tongue in cheek you say? What exactly was the point that you made by doing that? That you are have right of way because you're running on a pedestrian path? If you want to run unimpeded then run around a park - they're not in short supply.

henryporter

I've taken to running on the road, rather than the footpath generally as I'm finding the paving to be less bruising on the legs than concrete. Also avoids the 'Wedding Walkers' as me and the Mrs. call them, flailing the bingo wings like goodio getting ready for the all important big occasion, after which they won't be out walking again until the middle aged spread kicks in. In essence we should pity them and save our energies for avoiding drivers who have no spatial awareness

Krusty_Clown

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